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Thoughts on the 53-Man Roster

I find it interesting the Bears are going with as many undrafted free agents as they currently have on the roster. One might think they're place-holders for when the team inevitably fills a sixth linebacker spot or adds depth elsewhere, but they really aren't in places on the roster where they might be expendable. Dane Sanzenbacher's the fifth/sixth receiver, Kyle Adams is the third tight end (and a fullback), Dom DiCicco is in the five linebackers, and Mario Addison and Nick Reed are the fourth and fifth defensive ends. Winston Venable could go thanks to the Brandon Meriweather signing, but we don't know yet for sure, since the Meriweather deal is still in the "Agreed to Terms" phase.

Star-divide

Keeping Will Ta'ufo'ou (which for simplicity's sake, I request the nickname UFO, or Ultimate Fullback Option) has to mean the Bears will be running with more dedication. Take a look at the three tight ends, normally the ones who would line up as that H-back/fullback type of player - Spaeth is a fine enough edge blocker/space blocker, and maybe Adams can somewhat do the lead-blocking, but UFO is an actual lead-blocking fullback.. For now at least, the Bears could be returning to the power running game inherently present in the original Coryell offense.

In the defensive backfield, with twelve players there now and only five linebackers, I have to imagine if/when a linebacker is inevitably signed, the cut comes from this area. Could be Venable, but again, I think there's something there they really like. Could be Craig Steltz, but aside from our desire to kick him out any chance we get, much to Dane's chagrin, Steltz is a very serviceable special teamer and a decent backup option in the safety rotation. So that leaves the cornerbacks, and I'd have to point to either of the Moores as being the cut option there. 

Being completely honest of course, I actually like the Addison and Reed keeps. I'm not expecting superstar numbers out of either of them, but as backups, they could both be valuable fill-ins both for their production and for keeping Peppers and Idonije fresh.

The Meriweather signing is a bit risky for me, but a good one. Steltz and Conte did get a little banged up this preseason so having a healthy Pro Bowl body back there is a good move, but the mental lapses concern me a little. After being cut by the Patriots though, I don't think the lapses will be as prevalent this year and we know Lovie and Co. don't have a problem with pulling a guy off the field, right, Zack Bowman? 

Either way, with twelve defensive backs, one will likely go when Meriweather signs, and another will probably have to go when a sixth linebacker is signed.

I'm off the soapbox for now. What do you guys see as spots to be improved, and who would you cut to get there?

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If I had to make a guess

Mario Addison gets taken out for a LB and room is made for him on the PS (who’d they would take out I have no idea).

I hope they pick up LB Tavares Gooden recently released from the Ravens…who would you like?

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by Cole Phelps on Sep 4, 2011 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Gooden wouldn't be a bad pickup, he'd have to learn the defense though.

Brashton Satele would be in the same boat – have to learn the defense.

I’d bet Pisa makes a late return to the team and one of the Moores doesn’t make it past week four.

Just for the name… DE Baraka Atkins.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 4, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Bowman.

I don’t think he wants it anymore or has desire. just imo

by chiguy8506 on Sep 4, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Josh Moore

…still PS eligible?

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by Cole Phelps on Sep 4, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either Moore.

Geez, we’ve got two of them.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 4, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

But DJ is actually good.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Sep 4, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed,

No way he last longer than a day on the practice squad. Plus, I think be migrating have been active for too many games last year to be Practice Squad eligible. Pretty sure he was active for every game and I think I read that he played 49.?? % of the defensive snaps.

by Fridge72 on Sep 5, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Alex Brown is still considered a "decent" player, and can be had on a reasonably inexpensive contract...

…And if Corey Wootton gets over his recent injury concerns, then I’d say kick the two UDFA DEs to the curb for Alex Brown and possibly Lofa to be Lach’s backup. At least some body who has manned the MLB in a 4-3 defense that incorporates some semblence of zone scheming.

by Doshi on Sep 4, 2011 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

My only fear

…is if you put Reed on the PS somebody’s gonna take him

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by Cole Phelps on Sep 4, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else as intrigued by Mario Addison as me?

I don’t know why, I thought he looked pretty good in the preseason. Yeah, he is undersized, but there is a lot of potential there…

by Midway Bully on Sep 4, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

All we need him and Reed to do is play well enough to keep Peppers and Izzy fresh.

Anything over that is gravy.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 4, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So does this guy

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 4, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Man I remember watching this show years ago

They look goofballs with those jawbreakers in their mouths.

by Midway Bully on Sep 4, 2011 11:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I won't let my kids near that show.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 6, 2011 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since the Bears picked up a Safety

I expect them to cut one of our “current” Safeties as soon as Meriweather signs the dotted line.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 4, 2011 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of Meriweather

This begs the question…which cut player made the most impact for his new team during the 2010-11 season?

Google and driving around LA is not helping me with an answer.

X: Truth
L1: Intuition (6)

by Cole Phelps on Sep 4, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I love that nickname

But instead of pronounced U.F.O how about pronounced You Faux.. Like some backwoods hilly Billy would say UFO lol

by edenburnz on Sep 4, 2011 10:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I just call him

Tofu!

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by GriggsBriggs on Sep 4, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is wacky

To suggest that DJ Moore would be cut. He is the 3rd best defensive back, after Tillman and Harris. The coaches recognize his talent and like him a lot. Josh Moore who knows, but DJ is going no where.

Venable is someone who has not played a single down for the Bears and is not a draft pick. He is the obvious cut in the secondary. Why are people talking about cutting DJ or Steltz? Just crazy. Not going to happen.

by Shuffle85 on Sep 4, 2011 11:03 PM CDT reply actions  

If I had said DJ Moore, you'd be correct.

However, I said a Moore. Like I said, we got two.

Being serious now, DJ’s a nickel back and not irreplaceable. I don’t see many other ways they get down from 12 backs (referring to cutting one of the Moores) unless Conte or Steltz go to IR or Venable is cut, and I don’t see them doing that, although I could be wrong.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 4, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

you say two moores

But lovie loves Dj… He may be lovies illegitimate son the way he treats him… Someone check unto that lol

I respect your OPINION but i also value the FACTS, To save time, lets just ASSume IM NEVER WRONG

by Tommy Ohyeah Mcduffie on Sep 5, 2011 12:25 AM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Lovie Loves S'Moores!

This bad joke brought to you in memory of Steven S.’s credible, which passed away this weekend after multiple bad jokes. lol

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Sep 5, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

You imply I HAD any credibility.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 5, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I give a DJ Moore cut a 1% chance of happening

He’s much, much better than any other CB in that spot. Graham is the only guy who can fill the role with average play.

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by propheteer on Sep 5, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given that Steltz nd Conte are slightly injured, I'm glad that we have 5 safeties

I don’t really like the Meriweather signing…Bill Belichick knows how to get the most out of a player. If he’s cutting a 2-time pro-bowler, there is something SERIOUSLY wrong…
If a scenery change is gonna work, then I’d be pleasantly surprised…

by BOBdaBEAR on Sep 4, 2011 11:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Vey good BdaB!

Why do you cut a 2 time pro bowler in his prime?
Does not pass the smell test :(

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Sep 4, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

whats so bad about

 a 1 year small money deal?

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by suckmyditka on Sep 5, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok!

We have rolled the dice before.

pbanachi

by pbanachi on Sep 5, 2011 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

not really rolling the dice

it’s a…low risk/high reward

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by suckmyditka on Sep 5, 2011 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody still interested in O lineman?

Colts left Indy fans scratching heads by cutting guard Kyle Devan. UDFA who they kept shunting aside even though he seemed to outplay the starters. May have lost his spot when Ryan Diem was moved to guard from tackle.

by Mdwymnstr on Sep 4, 2011 11:24 PM CDT reply actions  

is they cut DJ Moore then they deserve to be lobotomized
So that leaves the cornerbacks, and I’d have to point to either of the Moores as being the cut option there.

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by suckmyditka on Sep 5, 2011 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

... FTLOG.

Doesn’t anybody see two Moores and realize there’s DJ and Josh?

And besides, I put that after Venable, Steltz to IR or cut and Conte to IR.

Good God, people. Panties. Unbunch them.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 5, 2011 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

An IR stint is likely – with so many UDFAs on the roster, I don’t think they want to lose any of them for Meriweather or any other additions they make. Conte could go to IR to have Venable/Steltz be special teams contributors. Maybe the coaches are trying to have Venable stub his toe in practice so they can IR him.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Sep 5, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

WOAH

why would they keep Vanable active over Conte? Lmao no no no

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by suckmyditka on Sep 5, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

... Because Conte has a minor injury and this'd let them retain him as opposed to having to cut someone?

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 5, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cut venable

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by suckmyditka on Sep 5, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chicago bears twitter

ChicagoBearscom ChicagoBears.com
LM: #Bears have waived DB Joshua Moore, signed RB Armando Allen to practice squad.

by chiguy8506 on Sep 5, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you mean "FTLOD"...
Doesn’t anybody see two Moores and realize there’s DJ and Josh?

CUT DAT MOORE, KID’S A BUM! HE DON’T GOT FIFTEEN INNACEPSHUNS ’N EIGHT SACKS IN PRESEASON!

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by Spongie on Sep 5, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

....

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Sep 5, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why even mention DJ then?

He’s obviously not the right Moore being possibly cut.

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by propheteer on Sep 5, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I said the Moores because it was supposed to be a joke that we have two, when one Moore will do just fine.

It’s like George Carlin’s “standards” joke.

But yes, if you’d’ve held me to gunpoint and told me to pick one, Josh would’ve been the pick.

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by Steven Schweickert on Sep 5, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto!

We got a good nickle back with a nose for the ball.

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by pbanachi on Sep 5, 2011 1:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Seahawks fan here.

I don’t know if you guys are aware, but Nick Reed is a cult hero with Hawk fans due to his perpetual pre-season havoc wreaking. I’m glad he landed on someone’s roster, he’s got the drive and work ethic of an all-pro, just not the physical tools. He manages to penetrate and make plays with sheer will.

If you frequent Field Gulls, you’ll also find out that he’s most likely an immortal demigod, descended from Zeus/Odin and feeds on the souls of quarterbacks and opposing lineman. Also believed to be in possession of Thor’s hammer.

1. Charlie Whitehurst 2. ??? 3. Profit!!!

by NinjaHawk on Sep 5, 2011 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

It's like how we idolize irrationally about Patrick Mannelly

He’s the greatest long-snapper in the history of the NFL :o

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by propheteer on Sep 5, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He is! How is that irrational?

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Sep 5, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, it's more like Rideau Fever.

Mannelly actually is considered one of the best at his position even outside of Chicago, so he doesn’t qualify. Might even be more closely resembling Garrett Wolfe. Only taller.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 5, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

If you’re going to bring the legitimacy of his position in question than I’ll say it’s apples to oranges, considering DE is a much greater importance than a long-snapper.

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by propheteer on Sep 5, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

???

OK. But then, did you watch our backup LS last year? Not being able to punt or kick is going to cost you games. You can crap on the position, and that’s great, but then, a DE isn’t as important as a quarterback, so i guess we can invalidate the Peppers love, too, right? I mean, it’s all a matter of relative perspective, isn’t it?

Think about this, every point Gould scores is also attributable to the LS, as Des Clark showed us last year. Even a slightly bad snap can screw up a kicker.

People say the same thing about kick returners. They panned the Bears for drafting Hester in the 2nd, remember? Because it wasn’t an important position. Does Devin get to much love because he’s the greatest at an under-appreciated position? Because during the 2006 draft, everyone, including Bears fans, thought Angelo gave him WAY to much love.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 6, 2011 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to undervalue his position

Not being the considered greatest at longsnapper doesn’t mean the team would suffer through muffed plays. How big a difference is it between the best and the worst? It’s like kickers in fantasy football.

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by propheteer on Sep 6, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

that’s good to know. Every team has it’s pre-season standouts that don’t stick on the 53. We have the Haas/Rideau trophy awarded to the fan favorite who gets cut before each season. And pass that bong over here you crazy ninja!

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by LostInSTL on Sep 5, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

so the Haas/Rideau trophy this year goes to..

 Robert Hughes!

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by Claudio Oliveira on Sep 5, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

48 hours doesn’t cut it.

When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.

by Spongie on Sep 5, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he's Craig Steltz?

great.

Sorry Dane. ;)

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Sep 5, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

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