The Bears Den: January 11, 2012
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This is funny, and go figure its by a Bears fan.
http://youtu.be/UWPilN3pmiQ If you are a Tebow fan, which I hope you all are not. Dont watch this!
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
I noticed Dickerson left offensive linemen off of his list completely.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
Eh, there's plenty of lineman around after the draft
We can just pick somebody up of another teams practice squad and plug them in. Oh, wait, they fired Angelo, nevermind.
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 11, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
And there's this.
@adbrandt RT @AdamSchefter: Colts and @JimIrsay plan to hire Eagles director of player personnel Ryan Grigson as their new general manager.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
And what about Ryan Grigson excited you?
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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well, the Eagles have had way better drafts over the last 4-5 years than we have.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Many
eagle fans would disagree…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 7:58 AM CST up reply actions
Which is why they assembled the super team
because all their draft picks were so good.
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Its easy to make fun of them, but wasnt it everyone on this sight who wanted Asomuagh and Babin? and probalby Steve Smith's name was thrown around as well.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
I wouldn't have minded
but I wasn’t inclined to be in a bidding war for their services. Nnamdi would be sort of wasted on this team, anyways.
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Rule four of a sports blog.
If he’s a free agent, no matter what position, he’ll improve the team immensely.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
Rule 5 is
even if a guy is under contract, since your QB had a twitter conversation with him, you should be able to get him from the other team for late round draft picks just because.
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That's a subcategory of rule one.
Any team will be willing to trade their gems for your team’s garbage because everyone is out to act in your team’s best interest.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
That’s the ECD rule!
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
...[shaking fist]
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
No...
The ECD rule is “Everything can always turn out for the best despite any possible evidence to the contrary.” Also known as Optimist Prime.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
This I'll be much happier to agree with
Sounds more optimistic than Spongie’s idea…
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Well, if it works in Madden…
When I assume, I'm not "making an ass out of u and me"... I'm actually putting u between me and an ass.
That's rule number 2.
If it can happen in (insert sports game here), no reason it can’t be done in real life.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
The following excited him
1) He was the primary scouter for the Greatest Show on Turf, and was a member of the staff for both Super Bowls with the Rams
2) Was the primary scouter for the 2004 Eagles, and in his first year as DPP, he had a hand in perhaps the best known as well as most published FA class in recent years.
In his rather brief resume comes the fact he has had a hand in the creation of 3 Super Bowl teams in two different cities. He knows talent.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
His first draft as DPP was the 2010 draft.
Did you mean the 2009 draft?
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No
I’m talking about the probable role he played in FA for the Eagles last year. You know, the “Dream Team”?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, sorry, reading comprehension issues.
At the same time, how’d that dream team work out? I seem to recall seeing a team that had issues with cohesion, and a lot of free agents not playing up to their potential, let alone their contracts. What’s necessarily so great about that?
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What’s necessarily so great about that?
It was great for me to watch and laugh at….when the Bears were winning, that is.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
It at least showed he may not be afraid to pull the trigger on big named FA and not be a cheap GM
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
Like a Julius Peppers or a Jay Cutler...
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Yeah I'm not worried about that us pulling the trigger. I want to develop talent, also.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
Or a big named player in this year's FA class
I’m not accusing Jerry of being cheap, rather expressing a desire to hire a GM who is not “gun-shy”.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:17 AM CST up reply actions
Even though it was
implied by Bears beat writers that the McCaskeys put a leash on spending in 2010 because they had signed people to other big contracts?….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
The GM assembles talent
he doesnt coach the guys and cant help if the players under achieve. not really the case with draft choices but if a gm sign a FA or multiple signings and everyone at the time thinks its awesome or are on board with it and the player(s) play like shite then its not the GMs fault.
the negative on this guy should be the FA signings but the shape of that Oline
its not his fault the coaches miscued namdi
was it KW fault adam dunn played like that.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
All of that stuff. I actually didnt really know anything about him but having read that, I am more upset now. I just cant believe that we have yet to interview anybody. I guess the Chicago Bears are as dysfunctional as everyone says. You cant say your looking for the best guy for the job and actually interview NOBODY ! This is like our OC all over again. Lovie knows who he wants and the front office puts on a farce of a search and then hires Lovie’s guy.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 8:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I mean, he was a solid candidate I guess. So was McKenzie, and we failed to interview either.
So its more the entire circumstance that is beginning to frustrate.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions
What is this we failed to interview McKenzie business.
McKenzie interviewed with one team…and then accepted the position.
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I had the impression that they had contacted him prior to Ted firing Jerry.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Even if they contacted him...
he accepted the position at the first and only team he interviewed with.
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I should have been clearer, Oakland had already contacted McKenzie the Bears never had a chance.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
The Bears never attempted
That’s the reoccurring theme here.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
never really got the chance to go after McKenzie Oakland already had him lined up.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Source please.
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Source?
They haven’t interviewed anyone; this is a fact stated already.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
No, this part.
The Bears never attempted
Do you have proof that they didn’t do anything at all?
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they havnt done anything
how do you not have one interview scheduled is beyond me
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
They haven't had interviews
does not equal they haven’t done anything.
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well whats anything??
i could do some asinine crap all week and call it doing something. schedule an interview, hear what the guy has to say, proceed to next guy. they shouldnt have their mind made up before the guy even interviews.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
You keep throwing out supposition after supposition
they shouldnt have their mind made up before the guy even interviews.
There’s nothing to substantiate any of the “they ain’t doin’ nuffin” stance that everyone seems to be taking.
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theres one thing to do......
bring in guys to interview. so they are still trying to identify who they feel like listening to? i mean what else is there to do?
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Well
1. Formulate Organizational Plan
2. Identify Potential Candidates
3. Review Their Histories
4. Consult with Knowledgeable People
5. Contact
6. Interview
7. Make Offer
8. Proceed With Life
No part of that suggests that they need to make every single step of their process public, or do it solely based on the timeframe of a bunch of guys and girls talking on a website.
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well other nfl teams
seem to be operating on a slightly different time frame. i think its ridiculous they haven’t interviewed one guy you dont.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
So a parade of interviews for no other purpose than to please fans is ok?
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by EmmCeee on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
no parade interviews
to find the right guy to hire. if they hire the next GM in feb and hes a great candidate im not gonna be pissed. duh. im not asking for interviews for my health but bc i dont know how they cant id one guy they want to bring in for an interview
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
I dnt see what the big deal is about interviewing guys in a hurry.
The fact that everything going on isnt being reported seems to b the bigger problem with people. They take their time and hire the right person and all is well regardless of the amount of interviews they have
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by EmmCeee on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
if the hire the right person
then for sure. but i think its just gonna be some dbag that lovie used to throws beers back on mondays after american idol.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
lol if thats the case then make Lovie both
He fails then they fire him and many Bears fans get what they want anyway
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by EmmCeee on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I think that's all a ploy
Ruskell will be hired to be Lovie’s lackey.
They may be doing research, but I highly doubt it leads to an outside candidate. With that said, I certainly could be wrong on this.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
They have not interviewed anybody. Other teams have.
Those are both facts. You can google or vett or do whatever they are doing currently but until you actually speak to a man about what his ideas are for how this team needs to move forward in the future,
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
hit enter on accident,
without interviews, how can you know if someone is good for the job? If you want an interview with someone, get. Sell him on why he needs to interview with your team. We are not selling ice to eskimos here ! Chicago Bears are a storied franchise that has a franchise QB, are in one of the biggest markets, have a geat city, and have a team that was in the NFCCG last year and playoff bound until injuries derailed them. The only plausible reason we are not getting interviews is Lovie and Ted Phillips.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I am guessing
the GM search will go pretty much like the Martz hire went 2 years ago. Allow other candidates to go elsewhere until the unpopular choice (but the choice they want) is the only one left.
In this case, Lovie wants Ruskell because he can control him, and Phillips probably likes him because he won’t make waves.
No
but again, this kind of behavior is consistent with “Bears’ culture.” To me, not even interviewing a single candidate is preposterous.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
I dont have a source,
but I dont think it is probable that a billion dollar company/team can not secure an interview with someone that is actively seeking a GM position . Unless they dont want him.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 12:51 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Ya I dont get that
either……Though I do think the Bears have been slow to at least have reports of interviews happening….Either they are really focusing on the vetting process or they are being really secretive up there which would be a first I think…
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:04 AM CST up reply actions
the Bears have very tight control of all information coming out of Halas Hall
after all, there was no leaks about Jerry getting fired before the fact or anything else for that matter. We only find out things when they are ready to move. They learned something from the Dave McGinnis diabolical.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Well thats
true…..Even biggs said he was surprised Angelo got the axe….Talking about before that i guess…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, that is frustrating to me because I would like to think we were in contact with him, yet couldn't entice him hear us out.
But then again I see why, with his quick-firing of Hue.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
(and same with Grigson)
I am far from giving up hope, but it seems like lost opportunities (with quality candidates) are adding up.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
If the Bears actually wanted an interview, I am sure the could have gotten one.
They are not serious about bringing in someone from outside the team. If they were, Lovie wouldnt be involved in who they hire. I can understand that they want to keep Lovie. But to have him involved in the search just tells the new G.M. who the lead dog actually is in this club. And it isnt the G.M.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
So its down
to the rams and the Bears……With the rams really just waiting on what jeff fisher wants to do…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I thought the Seahawks were looking for a new GM?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
All in favor of this motion, say "aye"
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
No
besides pete carrol is essentially the GM from my understanding…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder why they interviewed Marc Ross, then?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions
When did they do that
Havent heard anything like that….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Last week
Posted a link last week too.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
Got it handy
Cause the only thing I can find is his interviews for 2010….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
And..
I wonder if Ted Phillips is sitting around looking at who is hired, as a process to “weed out” the candidates that want their own guy as HC? I’m also curious if they’re doing something behind the scenes that we don’t know about, that has nothing to do with Ted Phillips?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:12 AM CST up reply actions
it might happen but right now the blip says irsay plans to ....etc.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
With the Falcons out of the playoffs, where are the Bears at with Les Snead?
Any speculation about him still being an option?
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
Anyone is an option.
I think, however, Snead goes to St. Louis, but that’s just me.
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Know they Vetted him, but haven't heard anything
about scheduling an interview with him….. Snead did interview with St Louis last night…..
by David in Maine on Jan 11, 2012 8:17 AM CST up reply actions
I've never heard the word "vetting" so much in my life as within the last 10 days.
“Vetting” by the Bears had better be the equivalent of preparing Oceans 11-13 style.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
never watched a British spy thriller then.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
If old school James Bond films count, then yes.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
don't own a reel projector...
so nope :D
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- Lovie will be the GM and will report to phillips
- Bears are looking for a guy to essentially set up the draft board and thats it
- Implied Lovie will have majority of power when it comes to the roster
- Lovie would want ruskell because he is comfortable with him
- Think Ruskell tried to do to much in seattle and should have delegated a little bit more should have stuck with what got him GM job and focused on getting talent in draft
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
OMG
- Lovie will be the GM and will report to phillips
My friend predicted this last week. This is not good at all. Worst case-scenario.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
LOL is it too late to get Jerry back?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Lovie + NyQuil + Lovie as the GM
That should be fun :(
Bear Down!!!
by BearBratt on Jan 11, 2012 8:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wait, the Bears are to name Lovie Smith HC and GM of the Chicago Bears!?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
I think he means "Lovie will be de facto GM".
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
correct
Thats what he said…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
WAY TO TWIST HEADLINES CF
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
Sorry
My bad….Person would be GM in title only….Lovie would be defacto GM…..
I apologize and I hope this doesnt get me banned…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions
Nah, you're fine.
There’s a joke in there.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
You werent serious
on the internet….Thats unpossible…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
[mind blown]
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
You'll certainly have a few flaming squirrels thrown at and shall be greater by a mob at your door step
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:31 AM CST up reply actions
NOOOOOO
……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
And I'll be there with a baseball bat :D
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
You are so f'ing banned.
Wait, I don’t want to summarize all the radio pieces. You’re unbanned.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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yay
I feel bad though cause I do it using your tax dollars….
Well OK I dont feel that bad…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
super....
Does that really work in the NFL anymore? the GM/HC…doesn’t it get to be too much and they give up control eventually…
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Belichick and Reid are the only coaches
who have a great deal of influence over their GMs.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 AM CST up reply actions
He is one candidate that we know will be available.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:27 AM CST up reply actions
Why do I feel
Like getting some pitchforks and a battering ram and storming Halas Hall to take the Beats back for the people???
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 8:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
taking it back? when did the Bears ever belong to the people?
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Please don't interrupt my rage with logic
With Lovie as GM does he trade Cutler and Forte for a handful of special teams guys and an undersized safety that can’t cover but hits really hard and is slow?
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
your right logic is off the table for now.
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Or could it be
That the Bears have a history of making changes to their organization that lack common football sense. Thanks for the thought though meat.
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 8:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's reasonable
to believe that this would happen. The Bears have a history of making really bad front office/management decisions.
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I want to know...
how it is that people think that Lovie has so much power. It’s going to be a deep playoff run or Lovie’s gone too. How can he have so much power in that situtation? Win or else isn’t a position of power.
Lovie is the Puppet Master!
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How did you know
Lovie the True Puppet Master……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
He has a track record
Of removing those who disagree with his philosophy (ie Ron Rivera) and now seems to have the ability to influence the search for his boss. These are cause for concern if nothing else.
The thread is pure speculation from an organization that, from the outside, appears to be dragging their feet while other teams are signing gm’s. This situation appears comparable to the last OC search where we ended up with Mike Martz.
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 8:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Who is left?
If Snead moves to St Louis and Grigson to the Colts, who are the viable external candidates that remain? Sundquist and the other PD guy from Green Bay?
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 8:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
From names I had heard
morocco brown (washington director of pro personnel), john dorsey (green bay college scouting director), marc ross (nyg director of college scouting), and tim ruskell…..The only real names I have heard from the various Bears beat writers…..
Could be more could be less…..Cold be they already know what they want to do and are just waiting to talk to more people….Who knows….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
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by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
wouldn't mind Ross
I don’t want anyone from the Dan Snyder front office tree, Dorsey wouldn’t be bad since the Packers drafts have been pertty outstanding lately….Ruskell as a last resort with a 1 year deal on the same leash as Lovie
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Morocco Brown of the Redskins is on the "list" because he's been in the Bears
organization before, I believe, and is tight with Lovie….
by David in Maine on Jan 11, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions
Correct
according to Michael Wright its a name Lovie is pushing for….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions
Well if he gets the job
I think that answers the question about Lovies power at HH
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
A Dan Snyder guy would concern me a bit as well
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
please get ross or dosrey
pleeaaasseee!
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
No you will
take ruskell and you will like it! arrrrgghhh…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Ops
I hope I just didnt jinx the Bears GM hire and they do hire ruskell…..Damn….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
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by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Has the mob greeted you at the door yet?
(Fellas, I think it’s time to bust the damn door down!)
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
I'll take Ross or
anyone from the Packers organization. Even the ballboy.
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lets see
ron riveria was a nobody linebackers coach in philly when Lovie raised him up and taught him how to be a DC.
ron thanked Lovie by interviewing with anyone who would talk to him pretty much saying he wanted to go somewhere else.
yep Lovie really screwed over poor ron.
problems getting a OC to come in and deal with our Oline and WR corps? That’s clearly on Lovie.
If you take longer than a week to hire a new GM your dragging your feet? Is that in the NFL owners manual somewhere?
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I always hire a GM withing the first 15 minutes I fire one
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so what is your excuse for dragging your feet like that?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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He has to
Open up the box and insert the disc into his Wii…..Wait what….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
Wii
F that…PC…MADDEN 05 FTW!
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They still make
PC game outside of Blizzard and MMOs?….What world am I on!…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Just bought 1999 game of the year
Age of the Empires II
Whoot Whoot
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Have to search for Ditka to hire as GM
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Agreed with you
on Ron. It’s a shame he wanted to move on so soon, because he was a quality DC. If you’re not committed to the cause, Lovie doesn’t seem to want you around, hence giving Ron the boot. Martz’s non-committal stance on next season probably impacted his release more than performance.
If you were an OC, would you want to come here? You have Cutler and a bunch of wideouts that can’t catch a ball, and if that group of personnel isn’t likely to change anytime soon, you could end up lost in despair. Lovie has a say in personnel, so he does deserve partial credit for the situation.
Taking longer than a week? Ted said it would take as long it had to take, and that they would be vetting folks relentlessly. The Bears are taking their time with this, and just because McKenzie signed with Oakland instantly and a Raven wants to stay a Raven, people think somehow that the Bears are at fault.
Just because we don’t have a new GM in a week and a half does not mean that Tim Ruskell is instantly the new GM. Relax, people.
Its a fact of life that most people in the USA get help getting their jobs from their friends.
They get an early tip on an opening, a friend gets them an interview, they use friends as references etc. Most jobs never make it to the help wanted pages of the newspaper.
In the NFL players, coaches and executives move around a lot and know a lot of people around the league. If you eliminate everyone Angelo, Smith and now Ruskell know as a candidate for a job in chicago that could be as much as half the league and a lot of good qualified people.
George McCaskey and Ted Phillips did not say Lovie would be picking the next GM, just that Lovie would be the coach in 2012 and the new GM would have to be able to work with that. Lovie has two years and 11million dollar contract and money is money, not to mention that Lovie for all the finger pointing is one of the winningest coaches in the NFL right now. With some luck 2012 could be a very big year for the Bears, too soon to gut the organization and start rebuilding without giving it one more go.
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Ron Rivera wanted a HC job
He wasnt trying to go to another team as the DC. Lovies wants yes men who have no ambition and not enough stones in their pants to tell him no. I am willing to bet the Ron Rivera will go on to have a much better career than Lovie. Now we are going to get a yes man for GM and spend all our picks on defense. They need to tighten the leash on Lovie but all they are doing is letting him run wild. When he came here he said our #1 priority was to beat the Packers. FAIL. after he fired Ron Rivera he said “Trust Me”. EPIC FAIL !
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
All he wants is yes men with no ambition....
That falls right in line with having a coaching staff full of former HC’S. (/sarc) How dare a coach want coaches under him that have similar philosophies..I mean HC’s never make mistakes on hirings…
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by EmmCeee on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Well I guess it worked out better for our defense anyway...
Because we have been so much better without Rivera. especially when Lovie was the DC. You definitley want everone to think the same way and never outside the box.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
6-10 he's doing great.
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Eventually people will realize that his contract was up and not renewed
and hopefully stop saying he was fired
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It's more fun to do it this way
When Ron Rivera was a player he was the equivalent of our Nick Roach today
Yes they let the drama known as Ron Rivera pursue that which he wanted more than to be Chicago’s DC.
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True
but Lovie made it clear he didnt want him back when he promoted Babich. Mike Martz didnt get fired either.
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Technically Martz did because his contract didn't end until the leauge year ends
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all of that happened after Chico's contract was up.
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yup
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that is 1 game better than Lovie was
and that was with a team that was 1-15 the year before
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Wasn't Rivera interviewing for head coaching jobs.
How is wanting a promotion (one he couldn’t/wouldn’t get from Lovie as he’d have to be taking Lovie’s actual job from him) an insult to Lovie? Gee Ron, I hate seeing you want to become a productive member of my “coaching tree”, I guess you’re fired.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
and Lovie owed him a job for life (or however long it took him to get a HC job?) I don't think so.
his contract was up and he made it clear he would be moving on as soon as possible. Seeya.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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If he's was doing a good job Lovie should swallow his pride and let the man coach.
Lovie isn’t above doing what’s best for the team. If your defensive coordinator is doing a good job you keep him. Period.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
and as Head Coach Lovie has the right to assemble his coaching staff. Period.
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PERIOD
haha putting that at the end of a statement really puts an end to it.
well thats stupid to fire someone who is having success no?
it is. period!
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
double period on you
so there.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
And he has the right to make mistakes like letting Rivera go.
And I have the right to call him out for it.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
By waiting to hire a GM
you give that GM less time to fill out there staff, and they have to fill out that staff with people that weren’t good enough to be hired by other GMs.
I don't consider 'a week'
to really be WAITING. If there’s no GM in two months, I’d be worried.
If you want speed in filling the position, you’re getting Ruskell.
It is not in the Bears best interest to be the last team to sign their GM
They shouldn’t hire someone just to hire someone, but there are disadvantages to dragging your feet.
True.
But there’s disadvantages in being hasty.
A week or two isn’t going to kill everything in the ‘do everything now, not in five minutes, you have to do it right now or you’ll look like an foot dragging idiot because everyone else leaps before they look’ league.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 11, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Three other franchises
Are replacing their GM’s. Two of the three have hired a new GM and the third is working through the final paperwork. In that time the Bears have yet to interview. The Angelo decision would not have been made overnight which lends a reasonable person to speculate that they have had longer than a week to compile a plan for replacing Angelo.
Based upon this one could start to wonder what the Bears are doing up there at Halas Hall…
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
They're doing what the Bears do.
Chances are the next GM will be here another 10 or 11 years. Let them at least do their research.
I am having a hard time nit comparing the
Bears with the approach that Ricketts took with Epstein. Ricketts went after the best and landed him fairly quickly. The approach was direct and decisive. I would like to see more of that from the Bears. Perhaps my expectations are too high.
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:24 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Completely different situation.
The cubs are rebuilding, they know the general direction they want to go, and the GM will provide vision.
With the Bears, the club has the vision, and they need a GM to fit in to their plans, not to make the plans.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 11, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently their vision is the same as Virginia's
Blurry, not so good at night, and frequently mis-identifies people.
As in – “Yes you can have the GM position” – What? “Your not Reggie MCKenzie?” Oh, “Lovie, it’s you?” Nevermind.
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
At this point it might be better to wait and see what they do, we’ll crucify them later, so to speak.
by transylvanian bear on Jan 11, 2012 9:21 AM CST reply actions
I really hope the next Bears GM is awesome
for two reasons.
1. Obviously, I want them to succeed.
2. To make all the people complaining so hard about the timeframe look silly.
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I thought your top candidate was Tim Ruskell
Given how much you like “Site Traffic”…
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
It would be a bonus
if Tim Ruskell was successful, because that would exponentially grow the number of people who look silly.
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That number would probably reach levels of epic proportions
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:49 AM CST up reply actions
I want the next Bears GM to be awesome AND successful
Taking too long can impact both of those things.
If the Bears take too long, which is still probably weeks from now, it will make it difficult for that awesome GM to be successful right away.
If the Bears were the only team
Looking for a GM then they can take as much time as they want. However, how is time not an issue when there is a finite number of candidates and the “competition” has already interviewed and signed guys from that short list. I would think it would be better to be aggressive and get the guy you want than to wait and choose from the leftovers.
That is unless the guy they want is already in the building at which all of this discussion is mute.
Please explain to me what is silly about this line of thought?
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
There's not a finite number.
The 6 or 7 names that keep getting bandied about are not an end-all, be-all of candidates.
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Well I mean it's finite
in that there are only X # of people on the planet, but you know what I meant.
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I got you but
Isnt there a sizable drop off from the top 1-3 and the bottom 4-6?
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
how do we know that?
not being a wiseguy, but how do we know what the drop off is between who the media say are the top three candidates and who the media say are the next three candidates?
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--Doug Plank
Just looking at the resumes
I would rather have someone from Green Bay or Atlanta than Washington, Arizona or seattle based upon talent on the rosters. I could be wrong and hope that I am.
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
sure we know someone knows what they are doing but is it the guy we can hire or his boss that we can't
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
The better question is
do the Bears know if there’s a difference?
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Why would you think that?
Who knew Ted Thompson would be successful before Seattle? How many interviews has Reggie McKenzie had in the past?
There are 32 franchises, each with 2-3 positions that are a set-up for GM (Director of Scouting, Director of Pro Personnel, Director of Player Personnel, even Consultant) as well as another dozen or so who are not employed by the league but remain close to it, like Sundquist or Cowher. So there are probably 50-100 viable candidates for a GM position, and 3-6 teams looking each offseason.
Sure, it’d be nice to get a guy from a Championship franchise, but that’s no guarantee. I remember when Dave Wannstedt was the next hot prospect, a sure-fire, no-brainer, soon-to-be-champion.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
You had to mention Wannstadt...
That is totally fair. I just wonder how able Phillips is to find that guy… I guess we will find out…
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just did a quick scan...
Only going back s seasons, 2009-2011:
4 different teams played in the Super Bowl (GB, Pitt, Saints, Colts)
7 teams had 13+ wins in any of the 3 seasons
10 teams had 12+ wins
14 teams had 11+ wins
There are a good number of teams in the NFL that have had a fair amount of success recently. And a bad year could result from injuries or schedule as much as bad management.
If the Bears consider several candidates from only the top 10 teams in the NFL, plus a handful of folks currently outside the game, and they’ll still have a list of about 25. If we accept that at least 1 or 2 of the other 5 GMs hired wouldn’t be a good fit for the Bears (just as the Bears’ hire may not be a good fit for the Colts or the Rams or the Raiders, for example, because of ownership or philosophical differences), then the Bears have missed on only a few of several dozen candidates, all of whom may or may not be outstanding. I just don’t see this as any time to panic.
In looking at the list of teams, I wonder if there is anyone to consider in New Orleans? They seem to have put together continued success via both the draft and free agency.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
ppl really would care
about looking silly if the next gm is successful. even if he is, doesnt mean we are wrong in saying the bears are dragging their feet big time
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Actually, you would be wrong...
…if Phillips and his crew are working 8+ hours per day on this.
Who’s to say they aren’t conducting the first round of interviews by phone or video conferences? They could be interviewing people right now and we wouldn’t even know.
Really, the only time a candidate would need to come to Halas Hall would be to meet the McCaskeys, right before shaking hands and signing the contract.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 11, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
well yes in that case i would be wrong
i find it hard to believe that it would be kept secret. or why it would be.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
The Bears only have to make public one interview -
And that’s the one that satisfies the Rooney Rule with the NFL.
All the others, why make them public at this point?
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
lol why not
what kind of purpose does that serve.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
So if
Ruskell is hired, will you accept looking silly?
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
Not sure why I'd look silly
I’m not really supporting Ruskell, but I’m also not bitching about the speed with which they interview people.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Gotcha
You’re not sporting an opinion on this, just riding the middle ground.
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I'm waiting to see
it’s the most reasonable pattern. It’s not like I have any real investment in this race, outside of maybe 16 sad Sundays in the fall and winter.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I tell y'all what
If anyone thought that this “situation” in Chicago regarding the GM search is a mess, y’all might want to take a peak as to what’s happening in New York. It’s like Mark Sanchez vs. The World in regards with the Jets. Holy cow…
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:36 AM CST reply actions
Which really makes one wonder
If the Jets are going to sell the barn, house, and throw in the kitchen sink for either Peyton Manning or Drew Brees?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Two Peyton/Brady matchups a year?
I can’t handle that.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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So how about two Brees/Brady matchups per year?
That could be fun to watch. Not nearly as much fun as Peyton Manning vs. Tom Brady, though. ESPN would dedicate a week for that matchup.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
I'm hard pressed to see Brees not retiring as a Saint at this point.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I think the networks can
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
Bu I'm fine with it
Because it’s new York. :)
by 75bearsfan on Jan 11, 2012 9:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
To be quite honest.... At this point I woulnd't care if Lovie is the de facto GM.....
If he fails, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility, the entire staff gets the boot. If he succeeds well then the so do the Bears. Mike Tice knows what the offense and, more importantly, what Jay Cutler needs. He’ll most likely go D heavy in the draft but that just means that the aging D will get an infusion of youth. As long as they fix the receiver and OT issue I’ll be fine. I’m not throwing in the towel nor do I want Lovie or one of his buddies as the puppet GM, but at this point I’m a bit tired of freaking out about the way this team is run because it’s never really going to change and I have to accept that.
We're Bears Fans
We don’t accept anything less than HOFers and Championships.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 11, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
People have been accepting it since 1986
by frenchbears113 on Jan 11, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
People vs. organization
are two entirely different entities.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
I don't think
Lovie gets fired unless he flops. And Lovie’s style is more likely to have us be mired in perpetual mediocrity than to flop.
I Actually wonder
How people will feel looking back at this is the Bears hire someone from one of the remaining playoff teams (except denver of course)……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
greggdoyelcbs Gregg Doyel
If Tebow throws for 228 yards against New England, be aware – Romans 2:28 is about circumcision. Well, it is
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
im joking
i know what the rooney rule is.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
The Rooney rule is racist...
Why dont they have to interview a hispanic canidate?
by Ryan21 on Jan 11, 2012 2:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
The Rooney Rule specifies
the interview of a minority candidate, not a black candidate.
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- When Halas Hall wants to go in lock down they can do it
- Have not heard any thing really pertaining to GM search
- Got info on a story and Angelo brought him in to talk implying that Angelo wanted the source
- Does NOT think ruskell will get the job
- The one thing he is hearing is that the Bears WANT to go outside and hire GM
- Lot of good names / people still out there to hire
- Names ray farmer, lake dawson (heard rumblings of dawson), kiem, snead, etc
- peter king thinks Bears job is flawed by having phillips between owner and GM
- Agreed with that assessment because Phillips is not a football guy and questions who is running the show
- Feels / Thinks that George McCaskey made the decision to fire Jerry not Phillips
- Also thinks that George McCaskey is spear heading search NOT Phillips (NOTE my guess is thats why there is little info coming out of Halas Hall)
- Tice wants Koetter for passing game coordinator but Looks like Koetter will be OC in atlanta due to stability and running the offense even though Tice and Koetter are tight
- Forte got a letter from Bears outlining who they did not want to pay him One reason was that Forte had never been in Pro Bowl Thinks that might be reason why Forte wants to play in Pro Bowl
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I really appreciate the idea of itemized lists for players why they don't get paid
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much because you aren’t popular enough. So go get more liked!
lol
i cant believe not making a pro bowl would be on that list. a popularity contest? jesus christ
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I could understand All-Pro
but the pro bowl voting is generally a joke
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 11, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
“We’re going to be thorough,” said Ted Phillips of the GM search on 1/3/12. “So the potential of going into February exists.”
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
Ted Phillips on 1/3/12: "With free agency March 12, it can back up from there. There is going to be a decision made before then."
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
lol
they are going to hire the most random dude
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
get him a hot shower, a shave etc
they will take all this time and are gonna hire this guy.
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Here you Happy Now?
skjensen Sean Jensen
Sense I get is #Bears will accelerate their GM search today or tomorrow.
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
ill be happy when they interview someone
and stop secretly interviewing ppl like they are the cia or something
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
While I will say
I as a fan am not thrilled about not even having interviews set up why do they have to make the interviews public…..
I am not thrilled they are taking their time but at least they are researching candidates (well one would assume anyways)……Lets say they hire someone from one of the playoff teams….Then people will know why they were not moving at a “fast pace”….
Zaidman said on when of his score updates couple of days ago that the Bears are looking at guys from playoff / successful teams and wanting to know what role they played in the drafting process and that could take awhile…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
ok that sounds fair
but they dont have to wait for a team to be out of the playoffs
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Ding!
They’re free to interview and ask those pertinent questions directly to the source.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
The source
wouldnt lie to them? “Oh ya drafting such and such in the 3rd round was all me!” or “I warned them not to draft that guy in the second round because I knew then he was a bust”…
Like I said I am not thrilled but in the grand scheme of things me getting upset about the GM search really does nothing since this is how they want to do it….
Until the process picks up I have to settle with playing SWTOR and killing Sith Lords on Mind Trick with the wife or playing Madden on PS3 and hiring my own GM and OC until they at least hire someone or narrow it down to the final 2….Then when they hire someone like say ruskell or morocco brown then I can see being upset and or livid…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 11, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Making calls
would verify what involvement XYZ candidate had in any process. Anyone can really lie, but if they’re a college scouting director then it pretty much tells the Bears that he had a big hand in drafting said prospect.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
What if they interview people you don't like
or people that nobody has ever heard of? Will you complain about who they choose to speak with or will you be perfectly happy just because somebody has walked through the door?
I still would not be shocked to see the hire wait until after the Super Bowl.
well it wouldnt be heard for them to find someone i havent heard of
i wont complain if the guy has a great resume. its common sense
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
lol and what kinda question is that
if they hire someone you dont like, will you complain? uhh probably, you wouldnt?
by TR MacReady on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
It's more a matter
of do you want the job done quickly or do you want the job done right?
In a year, 5 years, 10 years, we’ll all be able to look back on whatever hire they make and decide if it’s good/bad/other, but I’d like to think they’re trying to do this right. If they just wanted someone to say yes to Lovie all the time, they’d move Ruskell up and they would have done it within a day or two of canning Angelo.
Just because everyone has certain perceptions of the Bears org and the McCaskeys, it doesn’t mean they’re all true. Just because you suspect they’re sitting there counting pennies and throwing darts at pictures of candidates doesn’t mean they actually are.
They may take a month or more to fill this spot and it may be great for the team. It may take a month or more and be horrible, or it could be great or terrible by tomorrow afternoon. No matter who they hire or when, it’s going to be “hurry up and wait” since it’ll be at least a season before we know if it’s going to pay off.
Whether the job will be done right won't be apparent for a season or more
But right now it looks like it isn’t being done quickly, so that’s what people talk about. Off-season, breathe it in.
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I on the other hand am a fully rounded human being with a degree from the University of Life, a diploma from the School of Hard Knocks, and three gold stars from the Kindergarten of Getting the Shit Kicked out of Me.
oh i want it done it right
and what you wrote is all true.
im not super pissed or freaking out about their timeline. all i was doing was questioning why they are not bringing guys in to talk to and ppl are acting like its so ridiculous to question that.
Accelerate= 20 mph
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As far as gettin' it right,
remember your talking about Phillips with help from his new bf smitty. It cost big bucks for the “experts” to get ol’ JA in here last time around, should be interesting.
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GM search update
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LM: In search for new GM, #Bears will interview Phil Emery, Jason Licht, Jimmy Raye and Marc Ross.
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Brian Schottenhimer resigned
how about him as the passing game coordinator and QB coach?
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