SMD's "Way Too Premature" 3 Round Mock
I love draft time. It's probably my favorite time of the football season (when the Bears aren't in the post-season). Therefore, I have decided to put my premature mock out here for you all to see. Have fun
Round 1: Kelechi Osemele OT Iowa State
I know I know...You're thinkg...Who? Trust me on this one guys.. He's GOOD. Standing 6'6 and weighing in at a thundering 347pounds this is not just a football player... this is a MAN. He has been compared to Michael Oher and quite honestly, plays every bit as good. From every site I have seen he's been ranked in the top10 at his position, the highest being 4th. His bios say he would probably be best in a run-first system, and with Tice at the helm I believe that's just what the Bears will be. Here's a tid bit about him LINK
His natural size and brute strength earned him a starting job in 2008 as a redshirt freshman, playing in every game, including five starts at guard. Osemele started every contest in 2009 as a sophomore, earning Second Team All-Big 12 honors. He moved to left tackle as a junior in 2010 and again started every game. Osemele finished his collegiate playing career in 2011 as a senior, starting the final 44 games of his career.
He looks the part physically and is talented enough to start from day one, but expect some growing pains. Reminiscent of Michael Oher as a prospect, but he works best in a phone booth and is best suited at guard. A frustrating prospect because he doesn't always play at the high level he is capable of - will he put in the work to continue his development and reach his potential?
Round 2: Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
This is a great pick. As a sophomore, Jayron accounted for 9 interceptions, as a Junior he totaled 3 interceptions and 31 tackles. The drop in INTs was basically due to the opposing teams not wanting to throw his way! He's a good sized corner at 5'10 171. His 40 times isn't exceptional, he runs around a 4.4 - 4.5, although he plays quicker and smart. He's rated as a second rounder. LINK
Round 3: Billy Winn DL Boise State
He's good. He's big. He's fast. 6'3 300 pounds and runs a 4.89 40 yard dash. He's big enough to play the 3tech, but he's also got the right moves to play the end in the Bears system. Great fit, fills a need. LINK
Round 3: Greg Childs WR Arkansas
Standing at 6'3 217pounds, he has the size every Bears fan wants at WR. He's strong enough to beat the press, and fast enough to blow passed the defender afterwards. The only reason he drops so low is because of a receiver heavy draft, that and he missed his JR season. He's fast. Listed as a 4.3-4.4 runner, he will be faster than most pro cornerbacks. A great pick over all. LINK
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Rather have someone else with the 1st rounder, Osemele should be a second rounder.
I like the guy but I wouldnt take him with our first. But I dont mind the rest of your picks. Like Hosley,Winn, but Childs is a little questionable.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Greg Childs is a beast lol
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Ok. I'll take your word for it. You're usually correct in these matters.
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I'm not sure where he's getting that from
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Eh...
…I haven’t seen/read/heard Osemele projected higher than mid-2nd anywhere, and I think most believe he’s suited to play OG, no? Should be way better talent available when our pick comes up.
I’d guess Hosley is gone early-mid 2nd right now, could be good value if we get him in the 2nd.
Pretty sure Winn is a 3-4 DE and not a good fit for a 4-3 in the pros. Maybe as a DT, but DT is one area where we have some depth/youth assuming we bring Okoye back.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 7:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Nope you're wrong.
Billy Winn
He’s a very good three-technique with more than enough athleticism to seal the edge or rush that inside shoulder of the opposing guard.
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One site doesn't make me wrong...
…isn’t that a fantasy football site? I don’t even know who Matt De Lima is.
NFL network, if I recall, and several draft sites I read all list Winn as more ideal for a 3-4. Doesn’t make it absolute, but Most people that I like to read regarding football (guys who analyze film… not guys who play FF) that I can recall say he’s more ideal in a 3-4.
My guess, like many players is he probably has scheme versatility, but I prefer guys who are ideally suited to what we run without question marks.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
a 5 tech DE and a 3 tech DT are pretty interchangeable
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 12, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
In most systems.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
For what its worth, SI did a 1st round mock earlier this week and had Osemele in the late part of the round.
"No I'm not going to 'limber up'. You ever see a lion stretching before it takes down a gazelle?"
The reason I take Osemele is because
I’m guessing the 3 tackles that are ranked higher than him will be gone, and I view him as the best player available at the biggest position of need. I’m not all into the “Who I hope the Bears take” games. I’m into picking who I think realistically they would take and I believe he would be a Tice pick.
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Top 3 OTs are likely gone but...
… most still project Osemele as a 2nd round talent and OG. I could see Jones/Adams/Sanders ranking higher as OTs.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 8:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
They say that "He MAY be better suited as guard"
but they aren’t so adamant about it. I recall similar things being said about Michael Oher, and he’s panned out just fine at tackle. From what I’ve seen of Osemele, he’s a solid pass blcoker, a punishing run blocker and can be a day 1 starter. Sounds like a fine 1st round tackle to me.
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The issue is that there might be better players (value wise) at other positions of need like corner,wr,linebacker
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
This is who I think the Bears would take
Not who I’d like them to take. this isn’t a fantasy draft. i’m trying to stick to as close as realistic as possible.
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I understand what you are doing here...
However, Angelo is not running the show anymore. If Ruskell sticks around it may go this route. However, i think it is hard to say what a Bears pick would be if we got someone in here that knows how to evaluate college talent and how not to draft real talent.
I feel like this would be a decent draft if it fell this way
Greg Childs in the 3rd would be a great pick up
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I see tackle as the biggest need going into the draft
So I see them going BPA at the largest position of need.
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Yes, but when "they" say that...
It carries weight. Draft-Nike are far from perfect, but the 5-10 sources I like to read are better at judging talent than I an likely anyone else on the board.
Saying might be suited better for OG is typically a hint that he’s not going to excel at OT, or his prospect of sticking there is lower than ideal, regardless of his performance at the position in college.
Again no one knows the future. And I may be wrong but no one I follow pegged Oher as an OG that I can recall.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ugh... typing from phones sucks.
I think this responded to the wrong post… and no idea where the “Nike” came from… think that was supposed to read “niks” as in “draft-niks”.
I can so relate to this.......
Autocorrect pisses me off on a nearly daily basis.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
But your notes say
he’s best suited at guard. Which doesn’t help with the position of need, which is tackle.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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He's played tackle his whole life
This is another Carimi RT or LT situation. No matter what he’s “best suited” for. He’s played tackle and that’s where he’s excelled
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Chris Williams played a lot of tackle in college (and a bit of guard)
came to the NFL and sucked hard at tackle, but has played average to well many times at guard. Scouts often know what they’re talking about.
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I don't really care
I have him going in the first round in my Mock I just did in January. There will be other mocks once I can do some more research.
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Between Chris Williams, Gabe Carimi and Chris Spencer
the Bears will have three former first round draft picks on the starting line-up. If they add a fourth, this line better be one of the top units in the league for a long time.
The Bears were top 10 in rushing yards, and average yards per rush last year. The marginal utility of a run blocking tackle doesn’t strike me as being very high, when the Bears were bottom 5 in sacks and qb hits (while having the sixth fewest passing attempts). But, maybe passing is overrated.
Lol, to bad 2 of those 3 first round picks are busts
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No. You are correct, and passing is not over-rated. We obviously have guys that can run block.
Just as much as we need a big play WR, we need a true pass blocking LT that can lock down Jay’s blind side.
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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Im hoping the bears can sign some OL an WRS from free agency
If that would happen we would be able to draft a CB OR LB in first round.
An OT that can play guard
sounds like a Bears first rounder
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That's why i thought he'd fit in well
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Solid, I like
I’d rather they pick up a FA LT, trade back in the first, get with that Wisconsin center , shift Garza back to RG, make Louis the backup at all guard and tackle positions, Spencer back up C and G and dump Omi
Then with the extra picks get WR, CB, LB in that order if good talent is there
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I like Konz I just DK if he's worth the 1st
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
thats why I had them trading down
getting the best center in the draft near the end of the first while gaining a few more picks (like another second or some thirds or fourths) would be better than reaching for a OT or WR if the top guys are gone
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I'm not doing trades in my first Mocks
Bears don’t NEED a center right now anyway So I don’t see them taking one with a top pick
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I'd agree. Though Konz looks solid, we don't necessarily need him, even for depth, with Garza and Spencer.
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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Hey has anyone heard of anything about horn.?
Im just wondering if hes ready to go next year if hes made any strides.?
Last i knew he's only on the roster because of injuries
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
ya
big body PS guy…probably not much more
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here's a thought.
i was talking with my brother. and we came to the conclusion that the way things are shaping up right now… this might be an ideal draft for us to move out of the first or up in the first.
if we reach too far for a player (maybe Mark Barron? Mohamed Sanu? Nick Toon?) in the first, we’re losing a lot of value if those are the guys we’re actually targeting… we could package things up and move up for John Martin (OT – Ohio State) or Luke Kuechly (LB – BC)… but you could probably move down (if Dennard is available at 19, I think Denver would be open to move up)… and sit in the middle or top and bottom of the second for 2 picks and pick up some solid talent in the second.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
Then again, this is all contingent on two things
1) What do we get in FA.
2) Do we resign Tim Jennings
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not doing any trades in my initial Mocks.
If I were I’d have them moving down to the end of the first and probably still taking Osemele
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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
It's too hard...
I also think you might be overvaluing Osemele too
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
He's rated as a high 2nd rounder
and tackle is a position of need
If the top three tackles are gone (Kalil, Reiff, and Martin) he’s the 4th best tackle in the draft. That’s why I have him going.
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The thing about Tackles is...
A lot of people have such a narrow view of what a left tackle looks like… and to be fair, until you give it a solid shot, they’re right… But the things that matter most to a LT are: Solid footwork, Lateral Movement, and Agility, especially here in the NFCN with Jared Allen and Co.
Osemele though, doesn’t follow that pattern, the dude is a big boy, and… I think, even in a run first system, he’s going to be best suited for a right tackle… some say that he’s probably better shifting into guard, but I don’t actually think that’s the case, he has good size and arm length… I do think that players can eventually transfer their skills to LT in time, especially RT’s… But, Osemele isn’t going to come in and play LT even for run based team quite yet. We’re better at looking deeper at guys who play like Nate Solder from last year, only deeper and a little raw-er… Someone like… Nate Potter in the third is probably a much better choice to shore up the OLine if Gabe Carimi isn’t going to play LT. The guy needs to put on some pounds and add some strength, but he mentally has the makeup and the agility of your NFL left tackle… but needs some time (and has an injury history, which actually works to the Bears favor in this case).
On the other hand, I do think you’re undervaluing Mike Adams from Ohio State as well…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
That was my first thought
He sounds more like a giant mauler. But maybe he’s fast enough (for someone his size) to get by. Hard to say until you see some film and he goes up against a fast, agile end or outside linebacker.
the comment 'works best in a phone booth' is the most telling of their analysis.
pretty much says everything you need to know about their lateral movement abilities.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Even if he is better suited for RT
I believe Carimi is better suited for LT. Lol
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I hope Carimi is better suited for LT, and can play there. If that's the case, we can afford to draft second round talent in the second round and use our first round for other needs.
….like LB, WR, CB. (considering how FA goes)
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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt mind getting Childs with our 2nd 3rd rd pick
In the 1st 3 rounds i would rather go for Bpa overall rather than bpa at a position of need. I dont think we should take a projected 2nd rd tackle in the 1st if there were a player rated higher at another position available when we pick. After the 1st round my theory is try to draft guys projected a round higher..1st rd talent in the 2nd, 2nd in the 3rd etc etc
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by EmmCeee on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Greg Childs in the 2nd or 3rd?!!!!! Are you serious?
Why is he worth even a 3rd round pick? All it takes is one look at his stat line to shoot that idea down:
21 recs 240 yds. 0 TD’s
Beyond that he’s a major injury concern. A knee injury sustained in 2010 is the reason for his huge drop in production.
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I thought that was funny how he declared Childs was a beast.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
They meant second third round pick.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Even still, thats a monumental reach
especially when you consider how deep this draft is with WR’s
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 9:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Researching a lil
I found out he was a 1st round talent had he come out early. One injury doesnt make him injury prone. We can pick him up in a later round and i believe it will b a steal. Good size at 6’3 and real good speed.
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by EmmCeee on Jan 14, 2012 4:00 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I didnt say injury prone, I said he's an "injury concern"
The concern is that he will never regain his old form prior to the injury. Aside from that every place I saw had him as a 2nd-3rd round pick with the ability to climb prior to this last season. Here is one example:
8/19/11: Greg Childs offers some size and good quickness. As a sophomore, he had 48 receptions for 894 yards and seven scores. Last year, Childs was having another fine season with 46 catches for 659 yards and six scores through eight games before a patellar tendon injury knocked him out for the final five contests. If he comes back healthy and productive that would alleviate the injury concerns and put him back in contention to be a second-round pick.
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Dre Kirkpatrick AND Trent Richardson have both declared for the draft
The addition of Trent Richardson could change the mock boards quite a bit.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions
every mock i have seen lately
has included richardson
Richardson has been on all of the mock drafts since I started looking back in early Nov.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Osemele at #19 is a reach.
And Greg Childs in the 3rd is beyond a reach. There is a decent chance he doesn’t get drafted.
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 12, 2012 5:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Kirkpatrick is rated at 22nd
I wouldn’t mind seeing us take him if he is there when we pick.
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 PM CST reply actions
But being a top ranked CB
He could go WAY sooner than that. I want him to fall to the Bears, but it all depends on what oter teams ahead of us need.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 12, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Captain Kirk would be great ...... If he fell to us . Kid is a ....
….. huge corner at 6’3" and would be a nice complment to Tillman and the a nice replacment to Tillman later on .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
It all depends on the Combine. If he gives a less than satisfactory performance he may drop right into the Bears laps
by frenchbears113 on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
That
And/or if other CBs blow teams away with their respective combines. There is one detractor against Dre, and it is that he is seen to be more of a zone-type player than a true man-on-man type CB. Jenoris Jenkins could get selected ahead of Kirkpatrick for this, as well as the chance that other teams could see him more as a safety type player, lowering his draft stock.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Watching Jenkins when he was at Florida
I wouldn’t mind having him either, but he does have off the field problems so that won’t happen.
by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
The Bears might not select Jenkins
But I guarantee at least 1 team that drafts higher than us is considering taking Jenkins over Kirkpatrick
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Here is my 3 round mock draft:
1) Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama – He is a perfect fit for the Bears with his size, speed, good coverage skills topped off with being dependable against the run. What may hurt his stock are the facts Claiborne has declared for the draft in addition to being possibly viewed more as a safety compared to a top flight CB. With that, I feel Jenoris Jenkins will get chosen over Kirkpatrick, and he may fall to the Bears.
2) Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson – The Bears need to add an all-round threat at TE, and he is by far the best TE in the draft. Great pass blocking skills, an outstanding road grader, topped off with being a freak of nature in the passing game.
3) Dont’a Hightower, LB, Alabama – We need to find an eventual heir to the MLB position, as well as someone who can step in right away as a SLB. He is big, fast, strong and smart. He can step in right away as the starting SLB, then move in as the next potential great MLB. He may fall this far due to not having a strong senior year following a season where he got banged up.
3) Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU – He is large, strong, and athletic. A great pass protector while being off the charts good as a run blocker. In fact, why would a LT be drafted this low, considering the additional fact he was coached by the same person who developed Logan Mankins? He will be a 25 year old rookie, and he is from BYU. If you want someone who could step in from the mid round and start at LT over Webb, this is your guy.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM CST reply actions
No way Dont'a will fall that far.
Into the second is a definite possibility, but all it really takes is a good combine from him, and he’ll be a top 40 off the board…
Is Dwayne Allen really that good in the passing game? Is Kellen Davis there yet? I don’t have the answers to either of those…
Matt Reynolds looks interesting. I generally like BYU prospects a lot.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
On the contrary
Dont’a could very well slip into the early 3rd round, where the Bears would have a rather early pick thanks to the Greg Olsen trade. He had a good season, but not one that would “wow” scouts, especially since he had been slowed down by injuries the year before. And further more, OLBs will be looked at much harder by teams than ILBs, which is what most people see in Hightower. Matter of fact, I thought I read he is the #3 ranked ILB.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
But there's a BUNCH of teams with ILB needs lately.
Pretty much all of the NFC East needs an ILB… Some 3-4 Teams might look to him (as he does have decent pass rushing skills)… Heck… Detroit, Baltimore might even give him a look. Panthers… who else am I missing that’s looking at LB decently…
Who’s #2 though? I got Kuechly and Hightower as the solid 1&2… Burfict? Audie Cole?
I mean, I wouldn’t mind walking around with Audie Cole in the pocket because he’d project pretty well into any of the 3 LB spots of ours (not everyones, where he’d probably project more into an SLB)…
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by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Have to find Kiper's grades and stocks
And yes, a lot of teams are looking for ILBs, but IIRC not too many ILBs have been chosen before the 3rd round as of late.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Found it and read over a couple other sites
It’s mostly Kuechly, Burfict, and Hightower in that order.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
For the Bears, at least...
It’d go if available Round 1 Kuechly… Round 2 Hightower… Round 3b Cole…, Round 4 Burfict.
I wouldn’t even expect to hit on one of those… If these guys exist at the pick, I’d assume they’d be on the top 5 of the big board at that point of the pick. I don’t think they’d actually last to any of those spots, but if they did… It’d be cool with me. I’m not saying these are the rounds that they’ll be taken, but the rounds where I’d feel the bears have the most comfort in taking them.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Once again
It all depends on who becomes the next GM.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Allen looks very nice...
He has also been a good run blocker for the Tigers. Allen is a dangerous receiver. He beats defensive backs with surprising quickness and good route-running. Allen is fabulous at going up and getting high passes over defenders. In the NFL, he should be a complete tight end who is a red zone weapon, a third-down target and a good blocker in the ground game.
per Walter Football.
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I'd definately consider Reynolds in the 3rd
He’s sounds like he’d be a good value, there. And Kirkpatrick would be a solid pick and give our defense an infusion of young talent, if he’s there when it’s our turn in the 1st.
Lol well man.. hate to break it to ya
Kirkpatrick will be gone in the top 15
Dwayne allen is a first round pick
Hightower will be gone early 2nd
Reynolds will be gone late second
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We'll see about that ;)
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
Besides, I personally think it's better to have a mock draft where talent would fall to us rather than making a bunch of reaches lol
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't
because that builds false hope
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All we can do is speculate
And you’re saying like it’s all but certain the players I listed will be drafted far sooner than where I’m taking them, when really players fall every year. The only draft pick that can be predicted correctly is the 1st overall pick, which this year the Colts are certain to take him. See Aaron Rodgers and the 2005 draft as a key example.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
Certain to take Luck, that is lol
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions
See the thing is Donta hightower
Is one of the better ILB prospects that has been seen in recent years. He’s almost guaranteed to go in the first two rounds. Yes certain players fall, but there are guarantees when it comes to the draft. There are basically 20 teams out of the 32 that have a need at ILB, which is why i believe Kuechly will be taken way too early, then Don’ta is next, and then Burfict, all of which could be first round picks, if not high second. And if the Bears take a pure inside linebacker like that in the 1st I’ll be thoroughly pissed lol
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We won't know until the day of the draft
Well, actually, y’all will know since I won’t be watching it this year given I’m at bootcamp lol
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Congrats. I haven't gotten my BC date yet.
I have to get a tattoo removed before I can go
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Which branch you joining?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Marines
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yeah i'm pumped
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not yet. I won't know until
like I said i get this tattoo removed.. Evidently It’s in a spot that’s unacceptable.
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I know lol. it's dumb
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yeah see mines on my neck
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enlisting
They’re saying I’ll get E3 and be up for E4 right out of basic because of my college degree and the fact I’m working on my second degree
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You should've gone out for OCS since you have a degree. That's what I'm doing and if I don't get in I'm enlisting.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 16, 2012 6:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
nah i don't really wanna do ocs
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The military is not what you think it is. Ive been in for 9 years and Im so happy to be getting out.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
I'm not expecting bread and roses nor do I have any thoughts of glory. I'm doing it cuz I want to be a Marine. I want that eagle, globe and anchor more than anything on this planet.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 16, 2012 5:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
This must be green before the end of the night
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 16, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Your wish is my command (no pun intended).
Anything to cheer on the military that helps to protect what we hold so very dear.
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In recent years?
1) 2007 was a good year for linebackers…
2) Rolando McClain was solidly above where Hightower is now when he came out
3) as was James Laurinaites
4) and Paul Posluszny
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 16, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Would anyone have thought
Carimi would’ve fallen to the Bears last year?
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This too ^
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 16, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Erik, Im surprised by this post. Usually you are on point. But today something is wrong.
Hightower wont last until the 3rd round.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Ehh I see otherwise
Not a ton of ILB type players have been drafted before the 3rd round these past few drafts. And we would be taking him with our first 3rd round pick, which is pretty much a low 2 thanks to the Panthers.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Your saying that 70 some players will go before Hightower?
Dont think so man.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
There's always a chance for that to happen
Having a “meh” type season after getting hurt the year before can bring one’s grade down a bit.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
And who here thought Da'Quan Bowers would fall as far as he did ? Sorry but ....
….. Erik is correct here sir , theres always a chance .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 14, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Bowers had a major knee injury though
though if I had known we’d get Amobi Okoye, resign Adams and have Melton step up, I’d rather have gotten Bowers to hope he could pair with Pep
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However
Bowers was still expected to be a first round pick even with the knee injury.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
And explain why Aaron Rodgers fell as far as he did in 2005?
I believe he was perfectly healthy
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Preach it my brother !!!!
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 14, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Rodgers was still a first round pick man,
Once again, you are saying that Hightower is going to drop appx 40-50 spots from where he is projected. Not likely possible.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Rodgers, though, was also a top 5 pick
He was taken in the first round, but far later than anyone expected. And like I’ve said Dont’a Hightower isn’t even the topped ranked ILB let alone LB prospect in the draft. Top all this off with the fact most ILBs IIRC don’t go before the late second to early third (where we’ll be picking) unless they are the #1 player of their class, and it is a realistic possibility that Dont’a Hightower can fall that far.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Rodgers was supposed to go right after Smith
There were concerns with his arm strength, which obviously, were completely unfounded and false.
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Which is the most overrated of all metrics coming out of college.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 16, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Not to sound redundant here
Osemele belongs in the second round cause he’s probably not playing tackle based on what Walter Football says.
Iowa State had him at left tackle, and he played well there. Osemele is a very good athlete for his size with the ability to slide and mirror pass rushers. He has long arms, quick feet and carries his weight well. Matching up against Oklahoma’s Frank Alexander, Osmele held him without a sack. He has the power to run defenders over in the ground game. While Osmele could play right tackle in the NFL, his best fit could be inside at guard.
He’s listed as a guard and isn’t the highest rated one either. Too much risk for a 1st rounder.
I would think the Bears would take Zach Brown to take over and start at the SAM or possibly take the best available CB, WR, S, or DE.
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How do you justify a 1st round pick at SLB?
Its a position that isn’t going to play the nickle with Briggs and Urlacher and the SLB isn’t a focal point of the cover 2 defense. This is a weak safety draft and a strong WR FA market. I can see DE or CB, but replacing Webb and Chris Williams need to be priorities.
Cause he's a stud
and will take over for Urlacher in the middle once he retires.
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But is he more of a stud
than the LB that show up in every draft that somebody is sure is a stud?
If it falls that way, yes.
He’d be starting and playing two thirds of the plays. Roach was horrible this past season.
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Something I just realized here...
Why are we selecting a DT in the third, and how is it a position of need?
by Joeb'n777 on Jan 16, 2012 10:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions
That
And I’d rather find someone who is more of a true NT type player. Paea is a rotational player at both positions, and we have two rather good 3Ts in Melton as well as Okoye. Adams is the only true NT we have on the roster, it would be nice to have a big nasty double team taking SOB in the mix.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
You got it backwards
Okoye is a good rotational player and we’ve got two good 3-techs in Melton and Paea.
Okoye is a decent but Paea is better. And what about Toe? He’s a solid run stuffing NT
by Joeb'n777 on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Paea is probably the better NT.
He’s got the mass… He might need some time, and to have Toe/Adams rotate in.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Jan 16, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
i think one way to really overhaul this O
would be that allen guy in the first and one of those other guys in the top 3-4 rds. add them with a FA wr and someone to push webb. that could be a sweet offense

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