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SMD's "Way Too Premature" 3 Round Mock


I love draft time. It's probably my favorite time of the football season (when the Bears aren't in the post-season). Therefore, I have decided to put my premature mock out here for you all to see. Have fun

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Round 1: Kelechi Osemele OT Iowa State

I know I know...You're thinkg...Who? Trust me on this one guys.. He's GOOD. Standing 6'6 and weighing in at a thundering 347pounds this is not just a football player... this is a MAN. He has been compared to Michael Oher and quite honestly, plays every bit as good. From every site I have seen he's been ranked in the top10 at his position, the highest being 4th. His bios say he would probably be best in a run-first system, and with Tice at the helm I believe that's just what the Bears will be. Here's a tid bit about him LINK

His natural size and brute strength earned him a starting job in 2008 as a redshirt freshman, playing in every game, including five starts at guard. Osemele started every contest in 2009 as a sophomore, earning Second Team All-Big 12 honors. He moved to left tackle as a junior in 2010 and again started every game. Osemele finished his collegiate playing career in 2011 as a senior, starting the final 44 games of his career.

He looks the part physically and is talented enough to start from day one, but expect some growing pains. Reminiscent of Michael Oher as a prospect, but he works best in a phone booth and is best suited at guard. A frustrating prospect because he doesn't always play at the high level he is capable of - will he put in the work to continue his development and reach his potential?

Round 2: Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech

This is a great pick. As a sophomore, Jayron accounted for 9 interceptions, as a Junior he totaled 3 interceptions and 31 tackles. The drop in INTs was basically due to the opposing teams not wanting to throw his way! He's a good sized corner at 5'10 171. His 40 times isn't exceptional, he runs around a 4.4 - 4.5, although he plays quicker and smart. He's rated as a second rounder. LINK

Round 3: Billy Winn DL Boise State

He's good. He's big. He's fast. 6'3 300 pounds and runs a 4.89 40 yard dash. He's big enough to play the 3tech, but he's also got the right moves to play the end in the Bears system. Great fit, fills a need. LINK

Round 3: Greg Childs WR Arkansas

Standing at 6'3 217pounds, he has the size every Bears fan wants at WR. He's strong enough to beat the press, and fast enough to blow passed the defender afterwards. The only reason he drops so low is because of a receiver heavy draft, that and he missed his JR season. He's fast. Listed as a 4.3-4.4 runner, he will be faster than most pro cornerbacks. A great pick over all. LINK

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Rather have someone else with the 1st rounder, Osemele should be a second rounder.

I like the guy but I wouldnt take him with our first. But I dont mind the rest of your picks. Like Hosley,Winn, but Childs is a little questionable.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 12, 2012 5:06 AM CST reply actions  

Greg Childs is a beast lol

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok. I'll take your word for it. You're usually correct in these matters.

Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.

by Just Dave on Jan 12, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure where he's getting that from

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Eh...

…I haven’t seen/read/heard Osemele projected higher than mid-2nd anywhere, and I think most believe he’s suited to play OG, no? Should be way better talent available when our pick comes up.

I’d guess Hosley is gone early-mid 2nd right now, could be good value if we get him in the 2nd.

Pretty sure Winn is a 3-4 DE and not a good fit for a 4-3 in the pros. Maybe as a DT, but DT is one area where we have some depth/youth assuming we bring Okoye back.

by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 7:40 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Nope you're wrong.

Billy Winn

He’s a very good three-technique with more than enough athleticism to seal the edge or rush that inside shoulder of the opposing guard.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

One site doesn't make me wrong...

…isn’t that a fantasy football site? I don’t even know who Matt De Lima is.

NFL network, if I recall, and several draft sites I read all list Winn as more ideal for a 3-4. Doesn’t make it absolute, but Most people that I like to read regarding football (guys who analyze film… not guys who play FF) that I can recall say he’s more ideal in a 3-4.

My guess, like many players is he probably has scheme versatility, but I prefer guys who are ideally suited to what we run without question marks.

by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 1:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

a 5 tech DE and a 3 tech DT are pretty interchangeable

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 12, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

In most systems.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

For what its worth, SI did a 1st round mock earlier this week and had Osemele in the late part of the round.

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by Swarley on Jan 13, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

The reason I take Osemele is because

I’m guessing the 3 tackles that are ranked higher than him will be gone, and I view him as the best player available at the biggest position of need. I’m not all into the “Who I hope the Bears take” games. I’m into picking who I think realistically they would take and I believe he would be a Tice pick.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 8:07 AM CST reply actions  

Top 3 OTs are likely gone but...

… most still project Osemele as a 2nd round talent and OG. I could see Jones/Adams/Sanders ranking higher as OTs.

by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 8:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They say that "He MAY be better suited as guard"

but they aren’t so adamant about it. I recall similar things being said about Michael Oher, and he’s panned out just fine at tackle. From what I’ve seen of Osemele, he’s a solid pass blcoker, a punishing run blocker and can be a day 1 starter. Sounds like a fine 1st round tackle to me.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

This is who I think the Bears would take

Not who I’d like them to take. this isn’t a fantasy draft. i’m trying to stick to as close as realistic as possible.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand what you are doing here...

However, Angelo is not running the show anymore. If Ruskell sticks around it may go this route. However, i think it is hard to say what a Bears pick would be if we got someone in here that knows how to evaluate college talent and how not to draft real talent.

by thepreacher on Jan 12, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I feel like this would be a decent draft if it fell this way

Greg Childs in the 3rd would be a great pick up

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I see tackle as the biggest need going into the draft

So I see them going BPA at the largest position of need.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, but when "they" say that...

It carries weight. Draft-Nike are far from perfect, but the 5-10 sources I like to read are better at judging talent than I an likely anyone else on the board.

Saying might be suited better for OG is typically a hint that he’s not going to excel at OT, or his prospect of sticking there is lower than ideal, regardless of his performance at the position in college.

Again no one knows the future. And I may be wrong but no one I follow pegged Oher as an OG that I can recall.

by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh... typing from phones sucks.

I think this responded to the wrong post… and no idea where the “Nike” came from… think that was supposed to read “niks” as in “draft-niks”.

by IOftenPanic on Jan 12, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I can so relate to this.......

Autocorrect pisses me off on a nearly daily basis.

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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions  

But your notes say

he’s best suited at guard. Which doesn’t help with the position of need, which is tackle.

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by Kev H on Jan 12, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

He's played tackle his whole life

This is another Carimi RT or LT situation. No matter what he’s “best suited” for. He’s played tackle and that’s where he’s excelled

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Chris Williams played a lot of tackle in college (and a bit of guard)

came to the NFL and sucked hard at tackle, but has played average to well many times at guard. Scouts often know what they’re talking about.

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by Kev H on Jan 12, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't really care

I have him going in the first round in my Mock I just did in January. There will be other mocks once I can do some more research.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Between Chris Williams, Gabe Carimi and Chris Spencer

the Bears will have three former first round draft picks on the starting line-up. If they add a fourth, this line better be one of the top units in the league for a long time.

The Bears were top 10 in rushing yards, and average yards per rush last year. The marginal utility of a run blocking tackle doesn’t strike me as being very high, when the Bears were bottom 5 in sacks and qb hits (while having the sixth fewest passing attempts). But, maybe passing is overrated.

by BusterK on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Lol, to bad 2 of those 3 first round picks are busts

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No. You are correct, and passing is not over-rated. We obviously have guys that can run block.

Just as much as we need a big play WR, we need a true pass blocking LT that can lock down Jay’s blind side.

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Im hoping the bears can sign some OL an WRS from free agency

If that would happen we would be able to draft a CB OR LB in first round.

by tazz34 on Jan 12, 2012 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

An OT that can play guard

sounds like a Bears first rounder

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by ThorCo on Jan 12, 2012 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

That's why i thought he'd fit in well

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Solid, I like

I’d rather they pick up a FA LT, trade back in the first, get with that Wisconsin center , shift Garza back to RG, make Louis the backup at all guard and tackle positions, Spencer back up C and G and dump Omi

Then with the extra picks get WR, CB, LB in that order if good talent is there

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by ThorCo on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

I like Konz I just DK if he's worth the 1st

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

thats why I had them trading down

getting the best center in the draft near the end of the first while gaining a few more picks (like another second or some thirds or fourths) would be better than reaching for a OT or WR if the top guys are gone

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by ThorCo on Jan 12, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not doing trades in my first Mocks

Bears don’t NEED a center right now anyway So I don’t see them taking one with a top pick

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd agree. Though Konz looks solid, we don't necessarily need him, even for depth, with Garza and Spencer.

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey has anyone heard of anything about horn.?

Im just wondering if hes ready to go next year if hes made any strides.?

by tazz34 on Jan 12, 2012 9:55 AM CST reply actions  

Last i knew he's only on the roster because of injuries

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

ya

big body PS guy…probably not much more

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by ThorCo on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

here's a thought.

i was talking with my brother. and we came to the conclusion that the way things are shaping up right now… this might be an ideal draft for us to move out of the first or up in the first.

if we reach too far for a player (maybe Mark Barron? Mohamed Sanu? Nick Toon?) in the first, we’re losing a lot of value if those are the guys we’re actually targeting… we could package things up and move up for John Martin (OT – Ohio State) or Luke Kuechly (LB – BC)… but you could probably move down (if Dennard is available at 19, I think Denver would be open to move up)… and sit in the middle or top and bottom of the second for 2 picks and pick up some solid talent in the second.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

Then again, this is all contingent on two things

1) What do we get in FA.
2) Do we resign Tim Jennings

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not doing any trades in my initial Mocks.

If I were I’d have them moving down to the end of the first and probably still taking Osemele

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

It's too hard...

I also think you might be overvaluing Osemele too

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

He's rated as a high 2nd rounder

and tackle is a position of need

If the top three tackles are gone (Kalil, Reiff, and Martin) he’s the 4th best tackle in the draft. That’s why I have him going.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 12, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

The thing about Tackles is...

A lot of people have such a narrow view of what a left tackle looks like… and to be fair, until you give it a solid shot, they’re right… But the things that matter most to a LT are: Solid footwork, Lateral Movement, and Agility, especially here in the NFCN with Jared Allen and Co.

Osemele though, doesn’t follow that pattern, the dude is a big boy, and… I think, even in a run first system, he’s going to be best suited for a right tackle… some say that he’s probably better shifting into guard, but I don’t actually think that’s the case, he has good size and arm length… I do think that players can eventually transfer their skills to LT in time, especially RT’s… But, Osemele isn’t going to come in and play LT even for run based team quite yet. We’re better at looking deeper at guys who play like Nate Solder from last year, only deeper and a little raw-er… Someone like… Nate Potter in the third is probably a much better choice to shore up the OLine if Gabe Carimi isn’t going to play LT. The guy needs to put on some pounds and add some strength, but he mentally has the makeup and the agility of your NFL left tackle… but needs some time (and has an injury history, which actually works to the Bears favor in this case).

On the other hand, I do think you’re undervaluing Mike Adams from Ohio State as well…

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

That was my first thought

He sounds more like a giant mauler. But maybe he’s fast enough (for someone his size) to get by. Hard to say until you see some film and he goes up against a fast, agile end or outside linebacker.

by JimmyMack on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

the comment 'works best in a phone booth' is the most telling of their analysis.

pretty much says everything you need to know about their lateral movement abilities.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Even if he is better suited for RT

I believe Carimi is better suited for LT. Lol

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by suckmyditka on Jan 13, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope Carimi is better suited for LT, and can play there. If that's the case, we can afford to draft second round talent in the second round and use our first round for other needs.

….like LB, WR, CB. (considering how FA goes)

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldnt mind getting Childs with our 2nd 3rd rd pick

In the 1st 3 rounds i would rather go for Bpa overall rather than bpa at a position of need. I dont think we should take a projected 2nd rd tackle in the 1st if there were a player rated higher at another position available when we pick. After the 1st round my theory is try to draft guys projected a round higher..1st rd talent in the 2nd, 2nd in the 3rd etc etc

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by EmmCeee on Jan 12, 2012 12:00 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

Greg Childs in the 2nd or 3rd?!!!!! Are you serious?

Why is he worth even a 3rd round pick? All it takes is one look at his stat line to shoot that idea down:

21 recs 240 yds. 0 TD’s

Beyond that he’s a major injury concern. A knee injury sustained in 2010 is the reason for his huge drop in production.

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 5:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought that was funny how he declared Childs was a beast.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

They meant second third round pick.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Even still, thats a monumental reach

especially when you consider how deep this draft is with WR’s

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 13, 2012 9:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Researching a lil

I found out he was a 1st round talent had he come out early. One injury doesnt make him injury prone. We can pick him up in a later round and i believe it will b a steal. Good size at 6’3 and real good speed.

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by EmmCeee on Jan 14, 2012 4:00 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

I didnt say injury prone, I said he's an "injury concern"

The concern is that he will never regain his old form prior to the injury. Aside from that every place I saw had him as a 2nd-3rd round pick with the ability to climb prior to this last season. Here is one example:

8/19/11: Greg Childs offers some size and good quickness. As a sophomore, he had 48 receptions for 894 yards and seven scores. Last year, Childs was having another fine season with 46 catches for 659 yards and six scores through eight games before a patellar tendon injury knocked him out for the final five contests. If he comes back healthy and productive that would alleviate the injury concerns and put him back in contention to be a second-round pick.

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 14, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like Kinder 2.0

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by ThorCo on Jan 14, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

derrick Kinder

7th rounder who was a finalist for the top college WR award, got injured and had a sub-par senor season

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by ThorCo on Jan 15, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Dre Kirkpatrick AND Trent Richardson have both declared for the draft

The addition of Trent Richardson could change the mock boards quite a bit.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Osemele at #19 is a reach.

And Greg Childs in the 3rd is beyond a reach. There is a decent chance he doesn’t get drafted.

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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 12, 2012 5:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Kirkpatrick is rated at 22nd

I wouldn’t mind seeing us take him if he is there when we pick.

by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jan 12, 2012 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

But being a top ranked CB

He could go WAY sooner than that. I want him to fall to the Bears, but it all depends on what oter teams ahead of us need.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 12, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah Captain Kirk would be great ...... If he fell to us . Kid is a ....

….. huge corner at 6’3" and would be a nice complment to Tillman and the a nice replacment to Tillman later on .

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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

That

And/or if other CBs blow teams away with their respective combines. There is one detractor against Dre, and it is that he is seen to be more of a zone-type player than a true man-on-man type CB. Jenoris Jenkins could get selected ahead of Kirkpatrick for this, as well as the chance that other teams could see him more as a safety type player, lowering his draft stock.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Watching Jenkins when he was at Florida

I wouldn’t mind having him either, but he does have off the field problems so that won’t happen.

by l3ig_lvlike_430 on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

The Bears might not select Jenkins

But I guarantee at least 1 team that drafts higher than us is considering taking Jenkins over Kirkpatrick

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is my 3 round mock draft:

1) Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama – He is a perfect fit for the Bears with his size, speed, good coverage skills topped off with being dependable against the run. What may hurt his stock are the facts Claiborne has declared for the draft in addition to being possibly viewed more as a safety compared to a top flight CB. With that, I feel Jenoris Jenkins will get chosen over Kirkpatrick, and he may fall to the Bears.

2) Dwayne Allen, TE, Clemson – The Bears need to add an all-round threat at TE, and he is by far the best TE in the draft. Great pass blocking skills, an outstanding road grader, topped off with being a freak of nature in the passing game.

3) Dont’a Hightower, LB, Alabama – We need to find an eventual heir to the MLB position, as well as someone who can step in right away as a SLB. He is big, fast, strong and smart. He can step in right away as the starting SLB, then move in as the next potential great MLB. He may fall this far due to not having a strong senior year following a season where he got banged up.

3) Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU – He is large, strong, and athletic. A great pass protector while being off the charts good as a run blocker. In fact, why would a LT be drafted this low, considering the additional fact he was coached by the same person who developed Logan Mankins? He will be a 25 year old rookie, and he is from BYU. If you want someone who could step in from the mid round and start at LT over Webb, this is your guy.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

No way Dont'a will fall that far.

Into the second is a definite possibility, but all it really takes is a good combine from him, and he’ll be a top 40 off the board…

Is Dwayne Allen really that good in the passing game? Is Kellen Davis there yet? I don’t have the answers to either of those…

Matt Reynolds looks interesting. I generally like BYU prospects a lot.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

On the contrary

Dont’a could very well slip into the early 3rd round, where the Bears would have a rather early pick thanks to the Greg Olsen trade. He had a good season, but not one that would “wow” scouts, especially since he had been slowed down by injuries the year before. And further more, OLBs will be looked at much harder by teams than ILBs, which is what most people see in Hightower. Matter of fact, I thought I read he is the #3 ranked ILB.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

But there's a BUNCH of teams with ILB needs lately.

Pretty much all of the NFC East needs an ILB… Some 3-4 Teams might look to him (as he does have decent pass rushing skills)… Heck… Detroit, Baltimore might even give him a look. Panthers… who else am I missing that’s looking at LB decently…

Who’s #2 though? I got Kuechly and Hightower as the solid 1&2… Burfict? Audie Cole?

I mean, I wouldn’t mind walking around with Audie Cole in the pocket because he’d project pretty well into any of the 3 LB spots of ours (not everyones, where he’d probably project more into an SLB)…

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Have to find Kiper's grades and stocks

And yes, a lot of teams are looking for ILBs, but IIRC not too many ILBs have been chosen before the 3rd round as of late.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Found it and read over a couple other sites

It’s mostly Kuechly, Burfict, and Hightower in that order.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

For the Bears, at least...

It’d go if available Round 1 Kuechly… Round 2 Hightower… Round 3b Cole…, Round 4 Burfict.

I wouldn’t even expect to hit on one of those… If these guys exist at the pick, I’d assume they’d be on the top 5 of the big board at that point of the pick. I don’t think they’d actually last to any of those spots, but if they did… It’d be cool with me. I’m not saying these are the rounds that they’ll be taken, but the rounds where I’d feel the bears have the most comfort in taking them.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 13, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Once again

It all depends on who becomes the next GM.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Allen looks very nice...
He has also been a good run blocker for the Tigers. Allen is a dangerous receiver. He beats defensive backs with surprising quickness and good route-running. Allen is fabulous at going up and getting high passes over defenders. In the NFL, he should be a complete tight end who is a red zone weapon, a third-down target and a good blocker in the ground game.

per Walter Football.

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by propheteer on Jan 15, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd definately consider Reynolds in the 3rd

He’s sounds like he’d be a good value, there. And Kirkpatrick would be a solid pick and give our defense an infusion of young talent, if he’s there when it’s our turn in the 1st.

by JimmyMack on Jan 13, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol well man.. hate to break it to ya

Kirkpatrick will be gone in the top 15

Dwayne allen is a first round pick

Hightower will be gone early 2nd

Reynolds will be gone late second

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by suckmyditka on Jan 13, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see about that ;)

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't

because that builds false hope

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by suckmyditka on Jan 14, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions  

All we can do is speculate

And you’re saying like it’s all but certain the players I listed will be drafted far sooner than where I’m taking them, when really players fall every year. The only draft pick that can be predicted correctly is the 1st overall pick, which this year the Colts are certain to take him. See Aaron Rodgers and the 2005 draft as a key example.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

See the thing is Donta hightower

Is one of the better ILB prospects that has been seen in recent years. He’s almost guaranteed to go in the first two rounds. Yes certain players fall, but there are guarantees when it comes to the draft. There are basically 20 teams out of the 32 that have a need at ILB, which is why i believe Kuechly will be taken way too early, then Don’ta is next, and then Burfict, all of which could be first round picks, if not high second. And if the Bears take a pure inside linebacker like that in the 1st I’ll be thoroughly pissed lol

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by suckmyditka on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

We won't know until the day of the draft

Well, actually, y’all will know since I won’t be watching it this year given I’m at bootcamp lol

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Congrats. I haven't gotten my BC date yet.

I have to get a tattoo removed before I can go

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by suckmyditka on Jan 15, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Which branch you joining?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Marines

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by suckmyditka on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah i'm pumped

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

not yet. I won't know until

like I said i get this tattoo removed.. Evidently It’s in a spot that’s unacceptable.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I know lol. it's dumb

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah see mines on my neck

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah the army was the same way

but i think its the same for all the Branches.

by chiguy8506 on Jan 16, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

enlisting

They’re saying I’ll get E3 and be up for E4 right out of basic because of my college degree and the fact I’m working on my second degree

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

nah i don't really wanna do ocs

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by suckmyditka on Jan 16, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

i'll agree

some want the glory but its the ones who do the little things that truly get it

by chiguy8506 on Jan 16, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Your wish is my command (no pun intended).

Anything to cheer on the military that helps to protect what we hold so very dear.

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by propheteer on Jan 16, 2012 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

In recent years?

1) 2007 was a good year for linebackers…
2) Rolando McClain was solidly above where Hightower is now when he came out
3) as was James Laurinaites
4) and Paul Posluszny

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 16, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Would anyone have thought

Carimi would’ve fallen to the Bears last year?

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by propheteer on Jan 15, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

This too ^

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 16, 2012 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Erik, Im surprised by this post. Usually you are on point. But today something is wrong.

Hightower wont last until the 3rd round.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 13, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Ehh I see otherwise

Not a ton of ILB type players have been drafted before the 3rd round these past few drafts. And we would be taking him with our first 3rd round pick, which is pretty much a low 2 thanks to the Panthers.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 13, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Your saying that 70 some players will go before Hightower?

Dont think so man.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 14, 2012 4:05 AM CST reply actions  

There's always a chance for that to happen

Having a “meh” type season after getting hurt the year before can bring one’s grade down a bit.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions  

And who here thought Da'Quan Bowers would fall as far as he did ? Sorry but ....

….. Erik is correct here sir , theres always a chance .

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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 14, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Bowers had a major knee injury though

though if I had known we’d get Amobi Okoye, resign Adams and have Melton step up, I’d rather have gotten Bowers to hope he could pair with Pep

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by ThorCo on Jan 14, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

However

Bowers was still expected to be a first round pick even with the knee injury.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

And explain why Aaron Rodgers fell as far as he did in 2005?

I believe he was perfectly healthy

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 14, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Preach it my brother !!!!

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Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 14, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers was still a first round pick man,

Once again, you are saying that Hightower is going to drop appx 40-50 spots from where he is projected. Not likely possible.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 15, 2012 6:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers, though, was also a top 5 pick

He was taken in the first round, but far later than anyone expected. And like I’ve said Dont’a Hightower isn’t even the topped ranked ILB let alone LB prospect in the draft. Top all this off with the fact most ILBs IIRC don’t go before the late second to early third (where we’ll be picking) unless they are the #1 player of their class, and it is a realistic possibility that Dont’a Hightower can fall that far.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Rodgers was supposed to go right after Smith

There were concerns with his arm strength, which obviously, were completely unfounded and false.

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by propheteer on Jan 16, 2012 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to sound redundant here

Osemele belongs in the second round cause he’s probably not playing tackle based on what Walter Football says.

Iowa State had him at left tackle, and he played well there. Osemele is a very good athlete for his size with the ability to slide and mirror pass rushers. He has long arms, quick feet and carries his weight well. Matching up against Oklahoma’s Frank Alexander, Osmele held him without a sack. He has the power to run defenders over in the ground game. While Osmele could play right tackle in the NFL, his best fit could be inside at guard.

He’s listed as a guard and isn’t the highest rated one either. Too much risk for a 1st rounder.

I would think the Bears would take Zach Brown to take over and start at the SAM or possibly take the best available CB, WR, S, or DE.

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by propheteer on Jan 16, 2012 9:47 AM CST reply actions  

How do you justify a 1st round pick at SLB?

Its a position that isn’t going to play the nickle with Briggs and Urlacher and the SLB isn’t a focal point of the cover 2 defense. This is a weak safety draft and a strong WR FA market. I can see DE or CB, but replacing Webb and Chris Williams need to be priorities.

by MrPants on Jan 16, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Cause he's a stud

and will take over for Urlacher in the middle once he retires.

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 16, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

But is he more of a stud

than the LB that show up in every draft that somebody is sure is a stud?

by MrPants on Jan 17, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

If it falls that way, yes.

He’d be starting and playing two thirds of the plays. Roach was horrible this past season.

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Something I just realized here...

Why are we selecting a DT in the third, and how is it a position of need?

by Joeb'n777 on Jan 16, 2012 10:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

That

And I’d rather find someone who is more of a true NT type player. Paea is a rotational player at both positions, and we have two rather good 3Ts in Melton as well as Okoye. Adams is the only true NT we have on the roster, it would be nice to have a big nasty double team taking SOB in the mix.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

You got it backwards

Okoye is a good rotational player and we’ve got two good 3-techs in Melton and Paea.

Okoye is a decent but Paea is better. And what about Toe? He’s a solid run stuffing NT

by Joeb'n777 on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Paea is probably the better NT.

He’s got the mass… He might need some time, and to have Toe/Adams rotate in.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Jan 16, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i think one way to really overhaul this O

would be that allen guy in the first and one of those other guys in the top 3-4 rds. add them with a FA wr and someone to push webb. that could be a sweet offense

by TR MacReady on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM CST reply actions  

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