The Bears Den: January 20, 2012
by Pete Dixon on Jan 20, 2012 7:01 AM CST
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"...where the impossibilities are endless."
Ruskell interviews for Bears' GM job Mayer: In their search for a new general manager, the Bears on Thursday interviewed Tim Ruskell, the team’s director of player personnel.
Ruskell's track record belies critics Pompei: Bears in-house general manager candidate has solid list of draft hits.
GM choice could affect Bears’ draft preferences Moon: Phil Emery was behind the Chiefs' first-round draft pick of Dwayne Bowe out of LSU and also took Jonathan Baldwin in the 2011 draft, while Tim Ruskell has preferred to address needs at WR through other avenues.
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I'm all about second chances but...
Ruskell needs to find his someplace else. ’Nuff said.
Yes
Tim Ruskell’s draft picks for Seahawks
2009
1. LB Aaron Curry (Raiders starter)
2. OL Max Unger (starter)
3. WR Deon Butler (backup)
6. QB Mike Teel
7. DB Courtney Greene
7. DE Nick Reed
7. TE Cameron Morrah (backup)
2008
1. DE Lawrence Jackson (Lions backup)
2. TE John Carlson (injured reserve)
4. DT Red Bryant (starter)
5. FB Owen Schmitt (Eagles starter)
6. LS Tyler Schmitt
7. RB Justin Forsett (backup)
7. PK Brandon Coutu
2007
2. CB Josh Wilson (Redskins starter)
3. DT Brandon Mebane (starter)
4. DE Baraka Atkins
4. OG Mansfield Wrotto (Bears backup)
5. LB Will Herring
6. WR Courtney Taylor
6. WR Jordan Kent
7. OT Steve Vallos
2006
1. CB Kelly Jennings (Bengals backup)
2. DE Darryl Tapp (Eagles backup)
4. OG Rob Sims (Lions starter)
5. FB David Kirtman
7. P Ryan Plackemeier
7. WR Ben Obomanu (starter)
2005
1. C Chris Spencer (Bears starter)
2. LB Lofa Tatupu
3. QB David Greene
3. LB Leroy Hill (starter)
4. OT Ray Willis
5. DE Jeb Huckeba
6. RB Tony Jackson
7. LB Cornelius Wortham
7. OG Doug Nienhuis
oh lookie, another list of the Ruskell drafts!
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
it can't be posted enough
this guy is terrible in case anyone forgot
What are you talking about? He's amazing!!
Over 20% of his picks are starters!
He has an equal number of backups.
He only missed 58% of the time, who wouldn’t want a guy who can hit the target 42% of the time? (sarcasm off)
He’s awesome at drafting – the practice of standing behind someone else who blocks the headwinds for you.
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
put his drafts up against all 32 GMs
and you’ll find he’s average
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Average is not good enough...
mostly because the next guy will be around for a long time and his talent acquisition will linger long after he’s fired.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
I agree
But there are only so many of those great minds out there… And yes, the Bears should have one of them.
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
For myself,,,
I would like to see the Bears be the exception in a good way for a change.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
If I was Ted Philips
First, I’d be really pissed I was Ted Philips.
Second, I’d rather take a chance on a relative unknown quantity who has had recent success in a system like ours (Marc Ross) rather than Ruskell who we know has done average to below average in multiple recent drafts as GM.
Well, that certainly qualifies him to be the Bears GM.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jan 20, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
An average GM in Chicago?
Get out of here, I thought we had a policy of only hiring the top talent in the league…
Geez
First, I didn’t recognize any of the picks. I’m not a nut about draft stuff, but I’d be interested to see how his picks stack up against other GM’s. The lack of any major players on the list makes me wonder if the law of averages (much like what the case was with Kenny Williams-the blind squirel (sp) gets a nut now and then) might catch up with him. Trouble is, the Bears defense has gone Fredo (weak and stupid) and they still have no offensive weapons. Once the back is checked, they have no real players. Plus, they have Lovie Smith running the show. That’s like three strikes agains the Bears. I’m still in shock that they’ve not only kept Smith but have rated him so high as a skilled coach it makes you really, really concerned that the owners have a clue. Seriously, I wonder how many other teams would have 1) kept Smith 2) rated him a top coach 3) decided to build a team around him and his ‘talents’. Not too many, probably none (except maybe Arizona). 2012 is going to be a serious disaster, but how much you want to bet Smith will be around in 2013? So, our debating who the GM will be is a moot point and a waste of time, I think.
How refreshing.
The offense sucks, the defense sucks, and Lovie sucks. I guess the trip to the NFCCG last year, and the whole 7-3 before Cutler went down this year, were total flukes.
interviewing
i hope they aren’t interviewing people just to appease the fans and then slip ruskell in as gm
If that happens
Majority of fans will be really really really pissed, cause it could give the FO the impression that they are content with mediocrity. (as if they didn’t do so already)
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING !!!!
by baaad33kitty on Jan 20, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone else with the nagging feeling...
… all the guys close with the Bears are praising Ruskell because they were going with him from the moment JA was fired?
That's the impression I get from the Bears beat writers claiming Ruskell's draft history isn't as bad as people say it is.... I'm looking at you Pompei!!!!
by frenchbears113 on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
Uh-oh...
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
They still haven't reviewed your Resume yet have they ECD?
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
No. Not Yet.
I’m one of the unamed candidates, though.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 20, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Every April I declare myself eligible for the NFL draft.
And I have yet to have any teams contact my wife agent.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I did that once
Jerry Angelo called me to ask if I was an undersized DE…
I told him I was a WR, he hung up
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by ThorCo on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You probably claimed that you had a draft grade higher than the 6th round...
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 20, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't play for a D2 Texas school
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...but it is as bad.
I don’t know why they’re saying its not. I want us to try and get good talent, not “good enough” talent. It’s not what Halas would have wanted. Chicago, and its fans, deserve better than “good enough.”
If it makes you feel better
boers and bernstein were talking yesterday about how “their guys” seem to think that ruskell wont get the job and are just being nice cause he is liked up there…..They talked about how it was odd that all the stories about how ross doesnt work hard were refuted by “their guys” and how Halas Hall was defending him…..
Plus add in what Holmes said yesterday on the Score on how he heard that Lovie likes ross and made him the new favortie…..
That said Jeff Dickerson listed a rank on each guys chances to get the job based on what he had heard / felt / thought it went:
5 – ruskell
4 – raye
3 – licht
2 – ross
1 – emery
because emery had been with the Bears in the past and he is close to ruskell…..Thinks that the Bears want to keep most of what they have in place already and thinks that since emery knows most in place at Halas Hall already he would be the “safe hire” for that to happen……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
We don't really care about the "safe" hire
Obviously we want the best qualified guy to get the gig. That being said, qualifications are subjective. The person(s) doing the interviewing have to know what they want first, and what they are looking at second.
How often do we see major failures in both areas by this organization?
Oooooh SHINEY!!
Where was I?
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
I want the most qualified guy that can make the Bears successful…..IMO from that list its ross…..If they bring in more people (which I doubt but you never know) I would weigh him against them as well….Personally I was hoping for john dorsey since they seem so focused on the draft guy and he appears to be one or comes from one of the better drafting organizations currently…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure how to take the fact Matt Forte will play in the Pro Bowl
People suggest it’s a good idea to play in the game so everyone can see whether or not Matt Forte’s condition should be of concern, and to see a sample of what to expect next year. Also, it may help him get a big contract if he shows out.
But, I also think it’s a dumb idea. The Pro Bowl is nothing more than a glorified scrimmage. It’s not the best indicator as to see if Matt Forte is 100%. Plus, there is the fear of him doing more damage to his knee.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 20, 2012 8:50 AM CST reply actions
He has the opportunity to play in his first and possibly only Pro-Bowl.
He’s going to touch the ball, what, ten times at the most? I doubt that his performance is going to have any bearing on anyone’s perception of his health or value.
I might be interested in seeing how well he does running behind a bona fide OL on an offense with actual WR’s, but against a Pro Bowl defense, it’s probably a wash anyway.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Maybe Jerry thought he "knows it all" and didn't listen to other's suggestions?
Just guessing at that point….
by David in Maine on Jan 20, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Jerry just did what ever Lovie told him to? just a guess.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Maybe Jerry was just a figment of Lovie's imagination....
Like unicorns or the Steel Curtain of the 70’s….
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Or the forward pass...
or man coverage or using time outs.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
Mean Joe Who?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Jerry has a vivid imagination!!
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I had a kid that age in the 70s
last football game I played was in the 60’s got run over by OJ and was in Vietnam a few months later.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
OJ?
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Orenthal James
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Did you say you were run over by OJ?
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
1968 rose bowl
I slowed him down about as much as the airport luggage in the old commericals.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
wow
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 20, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Just think, Ed...
if some hysterical IU co-ed hadn’t worn her glittery nail polish that day, you might have changed history.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I don't recall seeing any glittery nail polish until halloween 1980's
but then I was not exactly a “drunken co-ed” magnet.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Kinda figured that...
after all these posts; i know you well enough. It’s more like me as a kid, but I could not let that go.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
One draft
He did draft Paea, Conte and Carimi. That’s a pretty darn good first three rounds…..3 starters.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
good reason to fire Jerry since he would never be able to do that again
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
lol
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This last draft was full of duds ???
I though Conte , Carimi & Paea worked out pretty darn well . Is that to say I want Ruskell as GM …. No , but he did help pick some solid guys this past draft .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Don't bring facts into this.
The Bears suck, Lovie sucks, Ruskell sucks, everyone needs to go in a major house-cleaning move designed to placate rabid fans… er, win more football games.
'WCG - placating rabid fans since 2005.'
I like it.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Placating is an under utilized word
and should always be used to describe meatball “rabid” fans.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
Ugh Some of these guys
are actually starting to convince me that Ruskell wouldn’t be the worst.
…must…resist…the…idea…please….no…
...because Cutty does it.
by Sam Householder on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM CST reply actions
No
backwards he drafts, with low round picks still in league and first rounds not
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HIre this man, the Bears will not.
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Let me fix that....
HIre this man, the Bears SHOULD not.
But, never know, they just might…..Ditka Help us….
by David in Maine on Jan 20, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Yoda belives in should.
He doesn’t believe in trying, only success or failure.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 20, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
"Let the hate flow through you"
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
The Dark Side of the Force is the pathway to many abilities some consider to be… Unnatural.
IE the ability to draft better
Draft Beer ..... who wouldn't like that.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
sorry
but, stay thirsty my friend.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I don't drink anymore either...
I don’t really drink any less either…
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Yoda never said that, but Jerry might have
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
If Ruskell does end up being the next GM, methinks he's on the same short leash as Lovie
But of course what kind of idiot would make a one year hire for a GM?
Oh, wait…
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM CST reply actions
Well furthermore
How can you even evaluate a GM after ONE draft and FA period? Most people say it takes 3-4 years to properly evaluate a draft. It’d be unfair to give him one year, fire him and then two years or even three later all the guys end making an impact.
...because Cutty does it.
by Sam Householder on Jan 20, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent Point
I think I speak for a majority of the posters here – Raye, Ross or Kev H before Ruskell.
Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.
by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Kev would be a good candidate.
When he’s around you can at least feel the draft.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
I'd be a kick ass GM.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I don't doubt it.
Unfortunately that disqualifies you as a candidate.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Kev left the window open?
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 20, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
"kev left the window open" sounds like a talking heads toon from 220 years ago
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I had no idea the Talking Heads were that old.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
they were the opening band at a Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart consert I went to in my youth
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
by ed_brown on Jan 20, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OT
now I actually have a problem with teblow….being a fan of Ledouchebag
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I was trying to make the case for Kev before my app crashed, dang that would a bad omen for him.:-) Anyway , Ruskell’s history with JA should be enough of a deterrent for them, and the fact he considered him a close adviser/friend, it is for me. We need to draft and develop talent, period.
by transylvanian bear on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM CST reply actions
I DEMAND THE CASE FOR ME
You will type it out slowly on the app and then submit it.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Ruskell will probably be hired interim 1-3 years.
Mostly because it seems like they missed the two-three guys they really wanted, so instead of taking the iffy choice, they go the safe route, hire Ruskell..then clean house next season if things blow up.
If the Bears are going to announce Ruskell
Prediction is it would be today or on the Friday before the Super Bowl.
They will want to do it at a time when as little attention as possible could be directed towards the decision.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Isn't that your job?
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Come add to my future suffering at http://www.skullsfortots.com
by Robert Rence on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
And thus the joke sailed fifteen feet away from you like a Caleb Hanie pass.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 20, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At least it made it nearby...
Unlike a McNabb pass which fell promptly into the dirt 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.
When you go to somebody's house, you don't crap on their floor. Being a fan of one team does NOT give you license to be a dick to fans of another.
Corollary: When people are visiting your house and behaving themselves, them being a fan of a different team is NOT a reason for you to piss in their beer.
Come add to my future suffering at http://www.skullsfortots.com
by Robert Rence on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
the guy on the cart when the metrodome collapsed
crapped himself and it decomposed
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Was it intercepted by a 350 lb DT?
He’s gotta hold the record for that…..
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by TheotherDane on Jan 20, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
yep, didn't accidently spit my coffee out this morning
not to mention those guys are almost as old as I am.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
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