Mario Manningham could be a possible Bears #2 WR
by fortefan09 on Jan 23, 2012 8:40 AM CST
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PrintAfter watching the last couple of playoff games involving the Giants, I noticed that one of this years free agents, Mario Manningham, has been playing extremely well. Obviously he might not be the number 1 go to receiver that we all want but he would be a definite upgrade to our group of WR's. After the jump check out his playoff stats so far, and recap his season numbers.
His playoff stats so far;
Vs ATL 4 catches 68 yards and 1 TD
Vs GB 3 catches 31 yards and 1 TD
Vs SF 1 catch 17 yards and 1 TD
Regular Season;
In only 12 games he caught 39 passes for 523 yards and 4 TD's
Previous 2 seasons he caught 60 passes for 944 yards and 9 TD's in 2010 and 57 passes for 822 yards and 5 TD's
My take; With other solid receiving options on New York's squad, Manningham has performed exceptionally well. I think if he was higher on the depth chart as a number 1 or 2, he would easily put up better numbers. I would not mind at all if the Bears considered bringing him to Chicago along with another receiver. What do you guys think?
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Yeah, I hate watching the Giants but I really like the way he has stepped up during the postseason.
And his regular season stats are really good for a number 2-3 receiver.
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I wouldn't mind him
Good hands, speed, size, and route running. Obviously not a #1 but a good player to add nonetheless, especially for depth in one of the weakest receiving corps in the NFL.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 23, 2012 9:37 AM CST reply actions
He would help
But don’t we have enough #2’s? Ok maybe #3’s… anyways I can see the Bears getting him and not targeting the #1 then.
by TheMan1 on Jan 23, 2012 9:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Thats the point of this article.
On a team needy of receiver like the Bears, Manningham could easily be a number 1-2 option. If you look at what he is doing with the Giants behind Nicks and Cruz, Its pretty astounding numbers considering the facts. If you plugged him into the Bears group of WR’s, then his numbers would most likely be increased by a large margin. You just have to remember who Manningham is playing behind.
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Just because MM probably would be the Bears' #1 WR
it does not make him a true #1. That said, getting him would improve the position
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~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 23, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
That was my point. But there are a lot of receivers out there who could be #1's on the right team.
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you miss my point
while MM would be the Bears’ best WR, he is not a #1 caliber receiver.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think he's better than Earl Bennett.
Of course I’m taking into consideration the need for a #1WR and all that. But we’d still have Knox and Hester, too. And I can see those two having better years w/out Martz’s rigid scheme. Especially if it’s playaction heavy offense. I like Manningham and think another tough possession receiver is definitely a need (along w/ the #1.) But a tough possession receiver who could also contribute on Special Teams coverage would be great. Maybe not unlike a Sam Hurd, just a better receiver and you know the rest…
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
I love Bennett,
But I have to disagree and say that Manningham might be the better receiever of the two. Like I responded above, Manninghams numbers have been really good as a number 2-3 receiver. If you plugged him in with the Bears as their number 1-2 option, he would be looking at a lot better stats. (of course thats all speculation and opinion)
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Speculation and opinion
that I disagree with, based solely upon my own speculation and opinion. Good post though, I do like Mannigham. But I am in favor of either a more clear upgrade at WR or someone who can offer a serious contribution to special teams. I’ve seen a lot of Giants games the past few years and I’m of the opinion (pure speculation) that if Bennett were on the Giants, he’d have beaten out Manningham for that job.
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
by Bearsh!tt!n on Jan 23, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I see your point.
But we need any upgrades at receiver we can get and the fact is that Manningham would be an upgrade.
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Would he though?
He’d maybe get more looks, but then the Giants pass a lot more than the Bears are likely to under Tice. And right now, as a slot/#3, he’s asked to beat the nickelback. On the Bears he’d be asked to beat a #1 or #2 corner. Seems a wash. Honestly if Knox can stay healthy and play like he did in ‘10, I don’t see why anything other than a #1 WR is a need.
"If the good Lord had wanted us to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." - Mike Ditka
by TheAwesomeMachine on Jan 23, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions
You fans are so funny that are constantly knocking down all of these receviers not named Vincent Jackson, Calvin Johnson, or Larry Fitzgerald.
Its the most obvious statement to say that we would want any one of those guys. I hate to break it to you but there is a great chance that we wont be able to get Jackson, Bowe, or Colston this free agency. With that said, There is a reason that I have been writing posts like this one. Im trying to bring attention to those receivers who could be brought in and make an immediate contribution. I would love to see your argument explaining how Manningham wouldnt be an upgrade over Roy Williams, Sam Hurd, and Dane Sanzenbacher because you seemed to think so.
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Manningham would be an improvement over all three.
We agree on that, we also agree that the Bears need a couple upgrades at WR. I know the grass is always greener, but Manningham might not be that much better than Bennett,Knox or Hester. I think our players on offense are going to look a little better with Martz not calling the plays. I think we need a #1WR and some solid depth. But yeah, REW Hurd Sanzenbacher. Upgrades are needed.
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
by Bearsh!tt!n on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, you hit the nail on the head.
I was waiting to see how long it took for someone to realize what I was saying.
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manninham
is much better than knox. please dont compare him to hester, that is just bananas
Not at all.
manningham is a receiver. hester is not. Period! you cant compare the two.
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Of course you can compare the two
they both play WR
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 25, 2012 7:38 AM CST up reply actions
yes, the roster says you can but Hester will never be worth anything at the receiver position.
If anything he’s taking up a spot that somone better than him deserves. good try though!
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which is why
you saying Manningham would be a number 1 WR on the Bears means very little. None of the Bears’ receivers are anything to get excited about. Manningham would be #1 by default not ability.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 26, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Just bananas would be
… Hester’s (or Knox’s) speed being properly utilized in a playaction heavy offense… if you could imagine that. The Bears still have plenty of WR spots that need upgrading. But the pure speed we already have could be used much more effectively than it has been in the past.
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
yea all those guys can do is run go routes
and the other team knows that. pure speed doesnt cut it if thats all you have
Yeah, but as a #2/#3 receiver
in an offense with 5000 passing yards.
Also
If you plugged him in with the Bears as their number 1-2 option, he would be looking at a lot better stats
I’m sure there is a case where this has happened, but can we think of one? Where a #2-3 option on one team went to a new team and became a true #1? I can think of guys like Boldin/Housh who said they could pull it off and didn’t.
Some names come to mind that imo don’t really count. Welker I guess is the #1, but that’s a really nichey offense and Moss was the clear top threat for a few years. There are Nate Washington / Kevin Curtis types where everyone around them got hurt and they were the only option with a decent QB. They had 1000 yard seasons but they were hardly #1 material.
Brandon Lloyd or Antonio Bryant probably count in a they’re-awesome-but-can-you-trust-them sort of way. Laurent Robinson? I dunno. I’d be fine with Manningham, and I like any free agent signing of a 25 year old with upside. But I think the arguments here should be focusing on whether Manningham is as talented as Lloyd/Bryant instead of his numbers in a great passing offense… and maybe he is. I really liked him out of college. The Bears won’t have that great passing offense, so it’ll take a top talent to put up big numbers.
Bro, your digging too hard for an argument.
All my point was, was that manningham would be a huge upgrade to this team considering who we currently have on the roster.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
You said he could be a #1
Obviously he could be a #2… he was a pretty good #2 in 2010. #1 is a different story.
No, I said he "could" be a number 1-2 type receiver.
Your making it sound like I said he could come in and be our number 1. (Which is possible by the way) Im basing my opinion off of how Ive seen him play and his stats. Sounds like you should do some research yourself
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Laurent Robinson? Aren't you forgetting someone else on that roster? Miles Austin.
Terrell Owens also wasn’t always a #1.
Knox and Hester are what they are
dangerous but not elite by any stretch of imagination.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 23, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Yep, Thats why someone like Manningham would be a huge upgrade to the Bears.
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not average by any stretch of the imagination either at least as WR's
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Maybe not even average
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 25, 2012 7:39 AM CST up reply actions
Better speed than Bennett
and I don’t think it’s even close.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
well, at least you agree with me
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Yep
They need a #1 and #2 WR. They’re a bunch of garbage based on what’s in the playoffs.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
As long as they solve the #1 receiver issue I'm okay with this.
A VJax, Bowe, Wayne or rookie on one side with him on the other, Bennett and Knox, when he’s healthy again, in the slot and Hester as a 4th or 5th receiver wouldn’t look so bad.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 23, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions
I don't expect we will see a lot of 4 and 5 WR sets under Tice
all the more neccessary to have a true #1 and legit #2 WR’s with Bennett in the slot and “pay the man” coming out of the backfield Cutty would have the tools he needs.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
True Ed,
A receiver like Manningham along with Bennett and another top notch receiver would make the Bears a legit offense. Im not saying that Manningham would be our savior but he would def help out towards our goal as a top notch offense.
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I'd like to throw in a dependable LT while I am at it :o)
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Thats true as well Ed. I cant wait to see what happens
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CW back to LT?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
I hope this is not out of the question for the Bears.
I still don’t think they gave him enough time to blossum as a LT, now that being said he has also had injuries. He is one player that I am not giving up on yet. There is no way in my mind he will be worse than Webb with a full training camp at LT.
by Hugh Heavens on Jan 23, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
certainly a consideration
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
No way,
Chris Williams was playing the best he has at Guard, so whay in the world would you move him back to LT where he struggles. Doesnt make sense man.
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Does if you put Spencer at center and move Garza back to guard.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
no, it still doesnt.
If Williams was struggling there, why would you move him.
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Carimi?
Shouldn’t we just move forward with Carimi at LT?
by MidwayMonster55 on Jan 24, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Yes please!
His only real knock is his durability. Gets hurt way too often to give him big money.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
No thanks...
MM is a good WR but he plays in a system along side a true #1 in Nicks and was out played, partly due to injuries, to Cruz. I think the numbers MM has put up are in part due to the defensive attention going to Nicks and the running game.
Would he be an upgrade over Hester, Williams and maybe Knox? Sure. But would he be a true #1 WR? I don’t think so. Plus, he’s 6’0. How many more short WR’s do we need? Cutler needs a big target who can go up and get a ball.
Thats why I laugh at these comments.
Size does not matter. Although we do need a taller player wether a receiver or tight end, there are plenty of players 6’0 and under that are number 1 caliber receivers. Get off the bandwagon man.
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Doesn't matter, but we need one anyway?
You say size doesn’t matter, but then you said we do need a taller player. Which is it? If size doesn’t matter, then why would we need a taller player?
My point about his height is that we’ve already got a bunch of guys who fit that mold. We’ve got one shifty quick guy in Knox and Hester’s a gimmick WR at best. Bennett is the closest thing we have to a legitimate WR but he can’t stay healthy. Do we really want to follow that up with MM who also can’t seem to stay healthy? Let’s get us a big, and talented, WR who’s a real #1 so Knox has more space to work with and Bennett can hopefully stay healthy and fill in as the #2 WR.
you mean we have guys that fit the 6'0 and under mode but do not play anywhere near lets say Wes Welker, Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks and so on.
Its nice to have a tall threat but you dont always need one. My point is that we should have a taller target especially in the redzone. But as far as every down receivers, we can settle for 6’0 and under as long as they can play the game at an elite level. Knox,Hester,and Bennett have not.
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Thank you! If you're a receiver that can attack the ball then it doesn't matter what your height is. Apparently one has to be the size of a Megatron for anyone to take him seriously.
He’s only an inch shorter than the other 2 studs on the team. Both Nicks and Cruz are 6’1. Roddy White is 6’0, Steve Smith (Carolina) is 5’9, Greg Jennings is 5’11, Wes Welker is 5’9, Jeremy Maclin is 6’0, Mike Wallace is 6’0, Reggie Wayne is 6’0 etc…
There are a lot of tall receivers that completely suck. Roy Williams, Kevin Walter (He’s ok but he should be putting up bigger numbers as the #2 playing alongside Andre Johnson), Mike Williams (Seattle), Braylon Edwards, Devin Aromashodu, (insert every Bears pre-season favorite) etc….
It’s a mixed bag when it comes to receivers. A good receiver gets to the ball no matter how tall he is. Yes being taller has it’s advantages but it’s not the prime necessity to be successful. More than anything, we need a receiver that can get open, create separation and attack the ball. We currently have no receivers that do that. That’s the problem IMO
by frenchbears113 on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed my friend!
It doesnt matter what size you are as long as you are putting up the numbers and coming through in tough situations. Ill take anyone this offseason as long as they are an upgrade.
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and i would take Megatron over every single one you named
Anyways thats not the point I know but if Cutler prefers an over 6’ guy as has been rumored, stick to the mold and get him one.
by TheMan1 on Jan 23, 2012 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No one said a thing about Calvin Johnson.
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Welker imo
Is a product of the system…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
and i would take Megatron over every single one you named
Anyways thats not the point I know but if Cutler prefers an over 6’ guy as has been rumored, stick to the mold and get him one.
by TheMan1 on Jan 23, 2012 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with that, only an idiot wouldn't want Megatron lol. But I'm saying that receivers in his mold aren't easy to find so if the team can find a guy that can produce big numbers no matter what his height is, then they should get him.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 23, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
I was under the impression
Manningham’s lack of production forced him down the depth chart. He got outplayed. The Bears have a LOT of #2 receivers. We’d like a one.
by MidwayMonster55 on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 PM CST reply actions
errr.... we have a lot of #2"s lol
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
They have a #3 and a few #4s
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
the Bears did run out some 4 and 5 WR sets
they may not now under Tice
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
debatable that the Bears even have any 2s let alone a 1
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Jan 25, 2012 7:40 AM CST up reply actions
Bob McGuinn (SP?) of Milwaukee sentinel via twitter according to B&B
Bears on verge of hiring Emery.
Hell no to Manningham
Have any of you guys watched him this year?? I had him in fantasy and watched him alot. And he dropped alot of passes. I wonder what the stats are. On top of that , he bobbled an awful lot of the catches he had..
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
18th worst in pro football
6 drops in 45 passes thrown 13.3 . REW was 15..
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
He's super athletic
but those numbers say he has below average hands. The only guy I would want on that bottom list is B. Marsh
by Staleystan595455 on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
You my have a small point with the drops thing but regardless,
The guy has 8 receptions for 116 yards and 3 TD’s in the playoffs playing behind Nicks and Cruz. There is a lot to say for that considering our receivers didnt even have more than 3 TD’s the whole season.
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Overrated
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