I Don't Care Who the Bears Draft, and Neither Should They
by Just Dave on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM CST
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PrintI've been mulling this over in my head for quite some time now. The argument can (and has) been made that the Bears should take a wide receiver in the first round. Others would argue that we need to shore up our offensive line with our first round draft pick. My take? Draft the best damn player available regardless of position.
That's what winning organizations do. They take the best player off their draft board even when that player may not fill an immediate need. It's what Detroit did last season with Fairley. They already had an impressive D-line but Fairley represented too great a value to pass on him. It's what Greenbay did when they drafted Aaron Rogers. How'd that work out?
People can point out many areas of "need" on our team. If the need is that big, find the right free agent. The bottom line is that if you have glaring needs on your team chances are you're probably not going to field a winner in September anyway. I personally don't think this team is that far off right now. So I truly don't care what direction the Bears go with the 19th pick in the draft as long as it gets us an NFL caliber starter. Great teams grab the best player available. And that's what the Bears should do this April. They are, after all, a great NFL team.
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The only position the Bears shouldnot draft in rounds 1 or 2
is quarterback.
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That and I think RB
unless its a Adrian Peterson type RB
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If Trent Richardson somehow falls to the second round
or Lamar Miller is somehow available with the Bears pick in the 2nd round.. I think they’d be hard pressed not to take them.
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oh for sure
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We might Franchise and trade Forte ... we might need an RB ...
Angelo fkd up when he drafted Paea instead of the best back in the draft who incredibly was still there at 53.
At the time he basically HAD to draft Paea
Paea was mocked to go in the late first, fell to the middle of the second, we had only 2 DT’s with a contract, so we needed DT. Nobody knew that Melton would get as many sacks as he did, nobody knew if we would resign Anthony Adams and nobody knew we’d sign Amobi O.
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Andrew Griffin? The English footballer who plays for Reading?
by frenchbears113 on Jan 27, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I didnt know Andy Griffith
Was still eligible for the draft…
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Jan 27, 2012 9:39 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
What it was, was football
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 27, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
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…remains unsigned. He was spotted with TO at Floyd’s Barber Shop.
"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f**k the prom queen."
So Detroit is a winning organization now?
And plenty of teams in win-now mode draft based on need. The past three years, in the first three rounds, the Steelers have drafted 2 WRs, 3 OLs, and 2 DE’s. Those were all need picks with Keisel, Smith, Ward getting older, and the injuries to their line.
Not trying to be an ass...
So Detroit is a winning organization now?
Yes. They went to the playoffs this year, remember?
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
That doesn't make them a "winning organization"
It sounds like you’re trying to use the Lions as a model for what the Bears should do. That’s the Lions first winning record in 11 seasons.
The Lions are being led by a recent #1 overall pick (Stafford), #2 overall pick (Calvin), and #2 overall pick (Suh). They didn’t get to where they are because of savvy drafting, they just had three top-2 picks and drafted players that everyone knew were huge talents.
They won
That means they’re a winning organization Lol
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This year. They were. They made the playoffs. We did not.
Drafting a defensive lineman in the first inspire of having strength at that position still made them better as a team. The move helped them moving forward inspire of being the butt of jokes in the NFL in all previous seasons. I think we’re at least as strong a roster that we can start to make similar moves. I also think we need to.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
That was a different regime that directed those drafts
the current group has moved the Lions into a much stronger position and, as was mentioned, they are now winning.
Not to put words in Dave’s mouth but I’m assuming he means that if when your spot comes up and there are 2 or 3 players on the board with very similar grades, obviously, you’d take the one who could help your team more immediately. However, if in those same 2-3 players there is one with a much higher draft grade than the other two but the position he plays isn’t necessarily a priority, you’d be better served taking the higher rated player who has a much better chance of being successful.
Dave's point was that winning organizations draft BPA
and he used Fairley as an example. When Detroit made that pick, they were a losing organization… and Fairley did nothing this year.
Put me at GM with three consecutive top-2 picks and I’ll eventually give you a winning season. I think the new Lions front office has done a nice job, but let’s not start making them an example of savvy drafting. Look at their recent draft history, apart from their top-2 picks, it’s mediocre at best.
Seems to me that you're using the "winning/losing" comment too literally.
When Bill Walsh took over the 49’ers they were a losing organization but would you call his regime a “losing” group? I’m not saying the Lions are, or are going to be, the Niners but this regime has started them off in a winning mode like Walsh did back then. A winning tradition has to start somewhere and maybe this is the point that Detroit is at.
I believe that is Dave’s point.
most likely
i wouldn’t stamp them a winning org yet tho
The point being it WASN'T the BPA.
You’re critiquing misevaluations, not strategy.
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Of course it was BPA
They already invested in talent there, but Millen liked WRs so much he kept drafting them anyway. BPA doesn’t mean “get the best player in hindsight”… it’s “get the player your scouting department likes most”. It’s very possible that the best player available at #19 will end up being a 5th round pick… doesn’t mean he’s a BPA candidate.
They've drafted really good post Millen
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 27, 2012 9:02 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying they are a sterling example for all to follow.
But in the last draft they took the stud who fell to them even though the D line was considered a strength and they had many other “needs”. The move has appeared to pay off. The Lions considered their team “good enough” to take such a chance and I think the Bears are too.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Like when the Bears took Benson #4 overall?
Or where exactly did we draft David Terrell? How did Cade Mc Nown work out? I’m sure glad we traded back for Rex Grossman and ? Oh, that’s right. Michael Haynes. Having high picks doesn’t mean a team hits home runs all of the time. I know what you are saying. The Lion’s have been a joke for quite some time but I think they have finally turned the corner as an organization and I think they showed that pin their last draft when they took the talent that fell to them and didn’t reach for a “need”. That’s all.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Benson was BPA...
I wish they could have traded down that year
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 AM CST up reply actions
that top half of that draft was rough anyway
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My recollection was the Benson was a little of both...
Thomas Jones didn’t have a great year the first season after the Bears signed him and everyone was calling for a top of the line RB. It wasn’t until Jones had some competition at that position that he picked up his game and also, according to several of the reports back then, was responsible for a lot of the clubhouse lawyering that made Benson even more unpopular with some teammates.
it seemed more like that pick was BRBA
they appeared to have decided they were drafting a RB
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by lookingdeadred on Jan 30, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
I'll add that the Aaron Rodgers pick doesn't really count imo
Rodgers was rated as a top-5 pick on a lot of boards and he slipped to #24… that’s a pretty rare situation and the Packers got lucky. If you’re saying the Bears should have picked Von Miller last year if he slipped to them, even though they had Urlacher/Briggs already … I think everybody would agree with you.
It sounds like your argument though is that, if it gets to the Bears pick at #19, and the top guys available are:
14th overall: DT
16th overall: RB
17th overall: WR
then the Bears should go with the DT. I don’t see the reasoning in that, unless your plan is to blow up the roster and rebuild.
Right there was talks at that time that Rodgers could be the #1 pick
Of course Alex Smith was and the rest is history
that’s like RG3 falling to the Bears at #19… They’d almost have to take him… and at least trade him or groom him
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Also considering Von Miller plays SLB and Lach n Briggs are WLB and MLB respectively
Von Miller would’ve also filled a need
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Hell yes take the DT. We got very little pressure from our line this year.
You are oversimplifying the grading system a bit here but if one clearly grades out over the other two? Draft him. Let the chips fall where they may. Take a WR in the second if the value is there and if not? Pursue some in free agency or through a trade. My point is the Bears have a very good team. We had some bad injuries to some key positions. I know we need a stud WR and maybe we get one in the draft but it is hard to “count on” draft picks to produce. Draft the best player. Period.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
Melton and Okoye were very good at pass rush
Paea is there too…
We actually had a lot of pressure this year.
The sack totals didnt add up because half the time our D-line was penetrating but we played a lot of really mobile QB’s that can scramble away from sacks. Look at the first Minnesotta game with Ponder. Ponder would have been sacked like 4-5 more times if he wasnt so fast on his feet.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
Cam Newton as well
I think there were a few times when Pep had him in the backfield, only for him to somehow get out. It also helps that hes the size of a linebacker
I like the Bpa drafting
I would rather do that than reach for a player trying to fill a “need” Besides qb and rb the bpa would help the team at any position and realistically thats all we can ask for. i have more faith in the talent evaluation skills of our new GM so the Bpa might actually b the bpa this year
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by EmmCeee on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I wouldn't count RB out so quickly
There are some VERY good Rbs this year. If Lamar Miller, Trent Richardson, or Polk from Washington are available in the 2nd. they should be taken
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Eh...
…I love Richardson, but I wouldn’t take either Miller or Polk unless they fell far. Isn’t Miller getting shoulder surgery? He wasn’t really a guy who could shed tackles before that. Polk. Again.. eh. I’d only consider him if we don’t get Forte back (and why wouldn’t we with a franchise tag available to use), and even then only if he dropped late to the 3rd, which he likely won’t. Don’t like either of those guys that much. I think Richardson is the only true big impact back in this draft, though someone always comes out and surprises as well.
Sorry Lamar Miller is of the Shady McCoy mold
He’s almost an identical back. He will be a difference maker.
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I can do without a back who can't block...
…probably can’t get 20+ touches a game and is having offseason shoulder surgery with already questionable upper body strength and one year of production. McCoy is a very, very optimistic projection.
He’s got a high ceiling IF he stays healthy, but from what I’ve seen and read he looks like a complimentary back to me.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes... and if I thought Miller would come even close to McCoy...
…drafting him early would make sense. He’s a RB, getting shoulder surgery, who isn’t an every down back, in a weak RB draft class.
I wouldn’t take him until the 3rd for the Bears… is my point. If he stays healthy I think he’ll be decent, but he provides little value to the Bears in the 1st/2nd is the gist of what I’m saying. I think he’ll be a decent complimentary back with a fairly high ceiling. To compare him close to McCoy at this point, after the season McCoy had, seems dubious at best.
Forte can catch balls out of the backfield and wasn’t coming off shoulder surgery when drafted. Plus I don’t see Miller approaching near Forte either, so I’m not sure what the argument is.
I could be wrong, but I feel pretty confident not putting Miller in McCoy or Forte’s company.
Thought barring any setbacks with should surgery...
…I imagine someone takes him early 2nd… and I think he’ll be a decent player… don’t get me wrong. Just not as valuable to the Bears and not a definitive #1 RB. RB draft class is weak enough where a desperate team could even get him bottom of the 1st.
Miller has never been called upon to block
because he WAS the offense in Miami
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Lol teams won't draft him to be a blocking back
they will draft him and use him how the Iggles use McCoy
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by suckmyditka on Jan 27, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
No there is nothing that says he can't block
He’s an “unproven” blocker, or needs to work on his blocking, but nothing says he “can’t block”
You have no point
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There are about fifty scouting reports saying he needs to work on blocking
My point is I trust guys paid to evaluate a guy who consistently say he needs improvement there vs. a guy in a message board who has probably watched two Miami games. Never said he can’t block, I said he’s not a good blocker. But if he’s McCoy in your mind without playing a game of NFL football, fine.
by IOftenPanic on Jan 28, 2012 7:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Needs to improve is a far cry from can't.
If you trust those evaluators, then you should actually pay attention to what they are saying instead of drawing out what they are saying to the extreme.
And, yes, you started out saying he can’t block.
I can do without a back who can’t block…
lol, It’s just six comments above your denial. Right there for everyone to read.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think there's a difference between saying someone can't block...
…meaning he’s bad at blocking, versus literally saying he can’t block. It’s not a difficult distinction to make, that’s the point.
No, it isn't. But....
the language would dictate that if you meant he needs improvement that you said, he needs improvement, not that he can’t. It’s not a difficult distinction to make.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Damned phone.......
if you meant “he needs improvement” then you said “he needs improvement”, not that he can’t block.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Come now....
Let’s face it. Most of what we discuss and debate here is pointless conversation. Why split hairs now?
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 30, 2012 6:28 AM CST up reply actions
No way on Polk. He hasnt looked well at all in the last few months.
From what Ive heard, his draft stock is plummeting.
Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!
His in-game stuff is really good though
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This is a wonderful idea.
Provided you have unlimited roster space and can fill the holes you couldn’t patch in free agency after the draft……….oh wait.
Oh I have it, maybe you can just advance a year like you can do in Madden, or ask for a mulligan from the rest of the league.
So in you opinion this team has a lot of needs right now?
So many we need unlimited roster space to fill them all in?
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
The 53 man roster limit is more restrictive than it seems.
A draft pick has to make the roster to be of any use. Take a theoretical WR group; you might have a legit number 1, a solid possession guy opposite and a slot guy you like, the last two roster spots will be role player types who need to be able to play specials. A decent sounding receiver group but you might wish for some improvement but any draft pick you have will need to either displace the possession guy or the slot receiver or be able to play specials. Ideally any displacement will be improvement, not projection of improvement, or you may end up getting worse by spending the draft pick if the young player doesn’t make the progress expected. The other route to the roster is through specials but not many college receivers worthy of an NFL draft pick play specials (or rather they return the ball at a sub-NFL level). Now this is a guess – I have never worked in an NFL front office – but I would suspect that attempting to project ability at special teams is as unreliable as on defense or offense. Maybe you carry an extra WR but then you end up trying to sneak him onto your practice squad which may not work either.
All this is ignoring cap commitments and other frictional elements (eg. how well your players are recovering from existing injuries). Writing this has made me start to think that the most important and frequently overlooked aspect of being an NFL GM is self-scouting. ‘Know Thyself’ and all that.
There aren't many positions which you can expect elite performance on day 1 (or even year 1)
So if a team is in win now mode, and has a specific need, addressing that need through the draft is a huge risk.
I think the Bears aren’t just in “win now” mode, they are in “win now, or else” mode.
My philosphy would be
draft the best player available among a few positions of need, unless someone very highly rated slips.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 26, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions
Exactly. BPA among O-line, WR, CB and DE. (or even LB)
by Mike Mueller on Jan 26, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Those are the positions I would select from...
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Are you still trying to identify players who fit the Bears schemes?
Or looking at BPA regardless?
schemes
I would never draft a 350 pound 3-4 zero technique nose tackle unless my head coach wanted him
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 26, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
That would be fun
put a huge space eater right next to Peppers
damn
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I would
I’d have my D line all be 1 gap players except my NT would be a 2 gap space eater
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 26, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that basically dick jauron's defense? Or am I completely wrong
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That was the Vikings version of the Cover 2
Jauron had two big guys at DT both 2 gap players, to keep the guards off him MLB… It’s similar to what the Ravens used to do back in their 4-3 days.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 27, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Gotchya
Good concept
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Trade Peppers?
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 27, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
and who will take that contract?
this isn’t the NBA where teams pick up guys with an eye towards opening salary space for FA in a few years, rarely do big name players get traded in the NFL
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And a big reason for that is that his pro-rate signing bonus...
…all rushes to our cap this year. So not only is he still really good but you’d eat over $12M in dead cap space to trade him.
You actually pay him less to be on the roster this year than if you traded him in terms of the cap.
Why wouldn't the team that you propose we trade Peppers too just sign Williams themselves
and not give up any players or draft picks?
by BearFan611 on Jan 29, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO! Thank you! This was the first thing I thought!
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
Awesome!
And while we’re at it:
Tag and sign Forte, then trade him and sign Ray Rice!
Trade Urlacher and sign Stephen Tulloch!
Trade Major Wright and sign Tyvon Branch!
Trade Tillman, Jennings and Moore and then stack our CB position with Ladarius Webb, Brandon Carr and Cortland Finnigan!
Then we can sign and trade Idonije and sign Cliff Avril, too!
Now we can put down our controllers and turn off Madden knowing we completely rebuilt the Bears defense for the next 5 or so years of dominance.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Tim, Tim, Tim,
it’s time to wake up now….you’re dreaming again…..
Agree with your sarcasm completely, I don’t get how people think other teams wouldn’t be smart enough that they’d even consider those kinds of things.
Yup exactly.
Unless Luck slips, don’t draft QB.
Unless Richardson drops, don’t draft RB
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I think a better general philosophy if we're going to paint with broad strokes...
…is to not reach for a player and try to fill a need and fill it with someone who can compliment/lead what you want to do.
BPA is fine, but if you rank say Malcolm Floyd and a RB the same or the RB a bit better, I still think it behooves the Bears to get the WR… since the margin of talent increase is likely to be greater (assuming we have Forte). Then again I’m not passing on Richardson if he fell (he won’t).
The Draft is a crapshoot, to a great extent, and I don’t think anyone suggests reaching for a WR if Matt Kalil fell by a miracle. But a lot of 1st round talent is just that, 1st round talent, because they are likely to be very solid players and the best at their position.
Now if you truly believe, say Kirkpatrick, will be a better player than Floyd… you draft Kirkpatrick. For me, I see them as comparable players in terms of talent/upside (actually I like Floyd a bit more), so I go WR because I think it’s a bigger need.
Bottom line need and fit should always be taken into account, but you don’t pass on a superstar to get someone who you think is clearly not as talented due to need. Fit might be a different story, though, to an extent.
Totally agree.
I just don’t want us to grab a wide receiver or O-lineman because they fit a perceived “need”. If, say a stud linebacker is there at 19? Take him. Who cares if we’re strong at LB? Take the perceived “better” talent and address your other “needs” with later draft picks or through free agency.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
?? Who's strong at LB?
We’re not. We’ve got Briggsy and LAc and that’s it. Zero depth on top of that. Lac goes down and the season is over.
San Fran has taking over our responsibilities of being strong at LB
Gotta get that back for us. It’s time for the Bears to be GREAT again.
It Doesn't Matter in the End
because the Bears have so many needs that the best guy in the draft at any position would fill that criteria.
Oh you do care...
just admit it. You care a lot. That’s why you wrote this article. And besides, there are few positions of true strength on this Bears team, so any pick is likely an upgrade.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
... I'd say LISTL
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Epic
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Falling to pieces?
That was epic, too.
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 29, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
I disconcurr
I do care a lot but I think we’re strong on defense. Our secondary may need an infusion of youth at CB and a more solid safety but we’re solid across the line and better that average at LB. Our special teams kick some and take some in ways few teams can. Ou offensive line is below average. But that was without two starters for most of the entire season. Our first round pick wan’t a waste. He’ll improve us noticeably next season. Our wide receivers lack but this is nothing we can’t make up for by one, I repeat one, really smart move in free agency plus a bolster somewhere in the draft. Our QB play is excellent, and our running game just fine if we franchise Forte. Draft the BPA period. This is the one draft we can finally afford to do this. Few positions of strength? You lack faith.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
by Just Dave on Jan 29, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I so agree with this......
Rec’d
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 30, 2012 6:30 AM CST up reply actions
BPA or Need...
…I don’t know, but this has been a fascinating and informative read. Props to you all.
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