Why Phil Emery Was the Right Choice For GM
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 3:35 PM CST
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PrintAs already broken by the news, the Chicago Bears have just hired former Chiefs Director of Scouting Phil Emery after a lengthy search which included interviews with 5 candidates. It comes as no surprise to some, as he started his NFL career with the Bears in 1998 as a scout, and already had ties with the current front office. I feel this is the right decision, and I'll explain after the jump.
Phil Emery has been a part of 3 franchises who all won their division at least once while he was a part of their efforts. Those teams, in order, are the Chicago Bears, Atlanta Falcons, and just recently the Kansas City Chiefs. In addition, the list of notable players that he had a hand with in scouting is, well...epic:
Chicago Bears (1998-2004): Marty Booker, Olin Kreutz, Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Charles Tillman, Jerry Azumah, Mike Brown, Alex Brown, Tommie Harris, Nathen Vasher
Atlanta Falcons (2004-2009): John Abraham, Matt Ryan, Roddy White, Justin Blaylock, Tyson Claybo, Brent Grimes, Sean Weatherspoon, Roberto Garza
Kansas City Chiefs (2009-2012): Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, Eric Berry, Tyson Jackson, Johnathon Baldwin
Feel free to look up the drafts from each team. Notice how he's found talent throughout the draft from start to finish consistently, unlike that of Jerry Angelo who would occasionally hit one out of the park, but also whiffed harder than Frank Omiyale on first rounders. Another note, notice how many Pro Bowlers were drafted while Emery was around, compared to after he departed. While with the Bears, they drafted no fewer than 9 players who earned the honors. After he departed, only 3 players have been drafted by the Bears that went to the Pro Bowl; Devin Hester, Matt Forte, and Johnny Knox. As a matter of fact, 4 current starters that he had a hand in drafting, all happen to be playing for the Bears (Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Garza).
He also has been praised by one of the more respected GMs in the NFL in Scott Pioli, who was just recently quoted from the Chicago Tribune:
"He's one of the hardest workers I've ever been around," Chiefs general manger Scott Pioli said. "I can't overemphasize the hard working part. He's outstanding at his job. Detailed, meticulous, organized."
That's someone who we need running this situation, as when Jerry Angelo was running the show, everything seemed dysfunctional and unorganized. Being someone who happened to work at the U.S. Naval Academy deserves respect, to say the least. Also read from time to time that he was compared to Ted Thompson in regards to his work method and strategy. He will be more of a hands-on type GM in regards to the scouting process.
Bottom line, we needed a change in management in Chicago, and I feel he is the right change of management in Chicago. What say you?
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His history seems solid now lets hope is future is more of the same . The thing .....
…. I’ve noticed with his drafts is he always seems to get solid O-linemen . They may not all be elite guys , but they always seem to be solid players .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 28, 2012 3:40 PM CST reply actions
He also seems to know how to get receivers and DBs
Two more things Jerry was never able to do alone.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Now , now Jerry did draft Devin Hester ..... Ohhh wait ...... Well he did draft Conte .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 28, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Angelo drafted
Conte, Tillman, Vasher, Chris Harris, Daniel Manning, DJ Moore
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See he wasn't that bad ...... No he really was horrid .
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 28, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Correction
Without Emery, Angelo drafted Daniel Manning/DMS, DJ Moore, Chris Harris, and Chris Conte. While Emery was around, the Bears drafted Charles Tillman, Nate Vasher, Jerry Azumah, and Mike Brown.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
I hope we aren't giving Emery too much credit
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at least we know he does have a sense of evaluating talent better than JA
dont know how good hell be in the draft, but lets hope he can address the most obvious weaknesses
from what I've heard he was in charge of the draft rooms for KC so those drafts were pretty much all him
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In Kansas City, Pioli said Emery runs all of the Chiefs’ draft meetings, and he’s a key voice on draft days in their draft room.
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by suckmyditka on Jan 30, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Well now that seems to have settled that .....
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 30, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
This TR guy seems to always argue everything
it’s getting annoying
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by suckmyditka on Jan 30, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I've had a few run ins with him ......
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
And now you have an answer .....
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by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 1, 2012 2:28 AM CST up reply actions
Who voted no?
I wish they’d come explain why
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It was Licht.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
by badsamaritan on Jan 28, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
And Angelo
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
More likely Angelo's mother.
Cacti are prickly.
by crackedcactus on Jan 28, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
It is the GM responsibility to fire the coaching staff?
Just curious…
"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f**k the prom queen."
GM , President and Owner all have say if IIRC
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It's a joke to give Emery credit for the Bears' good draft picks
He was an area scout… specifically, just scouting southeast schools. Here were the Bears picks that were possibly classified as “southeast”
1998: None.
1999: Marty Booker, 3rd round, LA-Monroe; Sulecio Sanford, 7th round, Middle Tennessee State
2000: Dez White, 3rd round, Georgia Tech; Dustin Lyman, 3rd round, Wake Forest; Reggie Austin, 4th round, Wake Forest; Michael Green, 7th round, Northwestern State (Louisiana).
2001: Bernard Robertson, 5th round, Tulane.
2002: Roosevelt Williams, 3rd round, Tuskegee (Alabama); Terrence Metcalf, 3th round, Mississippi; Alex Brown, 4th round, Florida; Bobby Gray, 5th round, LA Tech; Adrian Peterson, 6th round, Georgia Southern.
2003: Rex Grossman, 1st round, Florida; Charles Tillman, 2nd round, LA-Lafayette; Todd Johnson, 4th round, Florida; Ian Scott, 4th round, Florida; Tron LaFavor, 5th round, Florida.
2004: Alfonso Marshall, 7th round, Miami.
I still like the hiring, and in fairness to Emery, he probably wasn’t the only person watching prospects from these schools, and he didn’t have the final say in who got picked. But it’s not exactly a sparkling list of draft picks there.
by YaoPau on Jan 28, 2012 5:50 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
His responsibility was the southeast
But, its also not to say he wasn’t asked to scout other players across the nation. And, isn’t it amazing how much of a difference it has been from having Emery on the staff to not having Emery on the staff in terms of talent?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
Are you arguing that
Emery failed to correctly scout almost all his picks from his area, but was elite at scouting players that he didn’t pay as much attention to? I’m not sure how that would make sense.
Here’s a nice article on what area scouts do. Emery was just one of probably 6 area scouts, whose job it is to condense information about prospects in their region into something the GM can get the gist of quickly, so the GM can get a sense of every prospect in the nation without having to research it all himself.
Another piece on Emery's job as an area scout
Gabriel said Emery quickly emerged “at the forefront” of the team’s scouting department and the team leaned on him for selections in the Southeast. [Alex] Brown was supposed to be a first- or second-round pick two months before the draft before he fell. He never went to a Pro Bowl in eight seasons with the Bears, but outside of linebacker Lance Briggs, Brown stands as one of the best picks of the Angelo era.
“You might have questioned (Brown’s) intensity and Phil did a great job, not only selling him to us, but really showing us what Alex Brown was,” Gabriel said. “Phil got on the phone with Alex after we drafted him and I’m not going to say laid the law down, but let him know what was expected.”
Not reaching too much, are we?
It’s just as possible that it is a coincidence that he was on the staff during that time. Let’s be excited at the possibility, even likelihood of the GM upgrade, and the actual evidence that points in that direction. There’s enough actual evidence to be happy about, without reaching for connections that are not there.
Attributing any successes that a team had while he happened to be on the scouting staff for other regions is such a reach. We (appropriately) rail on JA for his wiffs, so what about that whiff list for the same staffs Emry was on, do we assign those to Emry as well? It would make just as much sense.
by bevingtonsTallBoy on Jan 29, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
So what your saying is...
He found Marty Booker, Terrence Metcalf, Alex Brown, Adrian Peterson, and Charles Tillman for us? I am okay with that from one area scout…Ian Scott wasn’t a bad football player either.
We are all probably trying to be optimists and giving too much credit (and too much blame) to nearly every staff member of the last decade…but we have change, and we have not been in the habit of drafting star players who are every down starters since 2005.
Hester & Knox both went to the Pro-Bowl based on return skills not receiver skills. Tillman, Urlacher, Briggs all pre-date the Angelo-Smith model…If we thought Angelo was the problem and not Smith, then a new model has room for improvement.
Matt Forte was the only draft pick by our beloved Bears from 2005-2011 that has made a pro-bowl as an offensive or defensive player. I for one want that to change.
Hoping for the best, braced for the worst, and won’t be surprised if we end up stuck in the middle.
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by Brendan Hess on Jan 28, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
don't forget
Dez White, Mike Green, Ian Scott and Dustin Lyman who were all quality players for the Bears
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They all sucked, and wouldn't have been starters on true contending teams.
And when they eventually left the Bears and played somewhere else… they were backups or in Dez White’s case, just plain old bad.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Didn't Ian Scott leave us and go start for the Chargers ?
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 28, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Si
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
by suckmyditka on Jan 29, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
You're wrong
Mike Green started for the 05 Bears team that had the 2nd best D in the league.
Ian Scott had a solid Bears career then went to the Chargers and started for them and did well.
Dez White had a solid few years as a no.3 WR
To say they sucked is plain dumb.
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
by suckmyditka on Jan 29, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks for the back up homie !
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 29, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
"1998: None"???????????? WTF?
Isn’t Duke in the southeast??? (You give him credit for Wake Forest.)
Sixth round in 1998, pick number 198 – Patrick Mannelly from Duke??
How could you? :-P
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 29, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions
I thought you wanted Marc Ross............
Something I’ve noticed ECD, is that you can instantaneously change the focal point of your optimism.
Prov 6: 21 - 22
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I always have options
As I no longer cling on to the idea of just one person. It helps to not feel let down if one of them doesn’t get the job.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 28, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Just like I always have different options in my "medicine" cabinet.
From Johnny Walker, to ol’ Jack….Captain Morgan if you need a lift, or Jaeger if you need to forget.
Cacti are prickly.
by crackedcactus on Jan 28, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
lol
good point…but maybe its nice to know we had two candidates we could be at least tentatively happy about.
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by Brendan Hess on Jan 28, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
Emery
I was hoping for Licht. If Ruskell is gone I will like this a lot more. I just hope he has a modern day appetite for Offense, something Angelo clearly lacked. Of course, our drafts can’t get much worse. I hope we at least sign one top player in FA. We’ll find out real soon if this is a real GM or another McCaskey puppet.
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Reading more about Emery's past
He was hired as Atlanta’s Director of College Scouting just after the 2004 draft, and he was demoted just after the 2008 draft to the Eastern Region scout position for the Falcons, then stayed there for the 2009 draft. He was hired by the Chiefs just after the 2009 draft.
So I don’t think he gets credit for John Abraham (Emery’s job wasn’t to scout the NFL), Sean Weatherspoon (drafted in 2010 by the Falcons), or Roberto Garza (he was in Atlanta years before Emery was). In KC, he doesn’t get credit for Brandon Flowers (drafted before Emery got there), or Tyson Jackson (same thing), or Brandon Carr (same thing).
I listed Bears picks that Emery probably scouted above… I’d give him about a C overall. Three nice picks (Tillman, Brown, Booker), but a lot of misses.
In Atlanta, I think he gets credit for (2005) Roddy White, Jonathan Babineaux, Michael Boley, (2006) Jerious Norwood, (2007) Jamaal Anderson, Justin Blalock, Chris Houston, Justin Snelling, (2008) Matt Ryan, Sam Baker, Curtis Lofton, Thomas DeCoud, Kroy Biermann, (2009, as the Falcons’ Eastern Scout) Lawrence Sidbury 4th round, William Middleton 5th round, Garrett Reynolds 6th round, Spencer Adkins 6th round, Vance Walker 7th round.
Tyson Clabo is iffy. He went undrafted in 2004, which is fine, but he was signed by Denver, then released, then signed by the Giants, then released, and he wasn’t signed by the Falcons until after the 2005 draft. If Emery was high on him, I gotta think the Falcons make a play for him earlier. It sounds to me that the Falcons were looking for practice squad filler here and got lucky. I’ll give Emery a halfie for signing Brent Grimes as a UDFA. On one hand, he obviously had Grimes pegged, but if Emery had him scouted accurately he would’ve taken him with a pick.
Emery gets credit for a solid 2010 draft with KC (Berry, McCluster, Arenas, Asamoah, Moeaki… decent pull, but then again he had the #5, #36, and #50 picks in an absolutely loaded draft). And Jonathan Baldwin, Justin Houston, and Allen Bailey showed some promise from his 2011 draft.
Overall…. I don’t see evidence that Emery is some scouting genius. In 14 seasons, I’ve got him down for three great picks (White, Babineaux, Tillman), a couple highly picked stars that I don’t give him a ton of credit for: Matt Ryan, (Atlanta had been starting Joey Harrington, had the #3 pick, and Ryan was the clear top QB) and Eric Berry (#5 overall, and so many 1st round stars in that draft), and then a huge dropoff in talent to the solid starter picks: AlexBrown/Booker/Boley/Houston/Blalock/McCluster.
I estimate he gets credit for about 18 picks with the Bears, 41 picks with the Falcons, and 15 picks with the Chiefs. That’s 74 picks total, or about 10 draft’s worth. It’s not a bad track record, but I don’t see anything special here. He’s probably been a bit above average in the early rounds, but he’s whiffed on almost everything after round 4.
He's a 53-year old scout.
He’s essentially…. Jerry Angelo.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
The thing that I want to know from reading this...
….is why he was demoted in 2008? In trying to read between the lines, I find no indications. In fact, I’d go so far to say that Atlanta’s drafts have gone into the crapper since he was demoted.
Even this past season, the Falcons traded 5 picks to move up to select Julio Jones at #6 (picks # 27, 59, 124, and their 1st & 4th rounders this year). For that huge cost, he provided basically the same production in his rookie season (54 rec, 959 yds, 17.8 avg, 8 TDs, 1 fumble) as Johnny Knox, pick #140, did in his sophomore NFL season (51 rec, 960 yds, 18.8 avg, 5 TDs, 1 fumble).
In looking at the Falcons drafts in perspective, I’d say the four years with Emery as Director of College scouting (2005-2008) where better than the previous four years (2001-2004) and the following three years (2009-2011). Their 2001 draft may be arguable (Vick, Crumpler and Garza), but considering they gave up 3 picks and a WR to select Vick, when they could have stood pat and selected LaDanian Tomlinson, I’d say their scouting wasn’t top-notch.
I’d also say the same about the Bears’ drafts. The years after Emery left were not as good as the years that he was here. The 2005 and 2006 drafts have to be considered a crap-fest, outside of Kyle Orton and players that came from the Southeast (Chris Harris – LA Monroe, Devin Hester – Miami, Mark Anderson – Alabama), all of whom Emery may’ve had a role in scouting before he left.
I’m not sure the drafts in KC have vastly improved (they had a good 2008 draft and got Dwayne Bowe and Tamba Hali in the first rounds in 2007 and 2006), but they’ve definitely had solid drafts.
On the surface, at least, it appears that the drafting improves when Emery joins the organization, and then falls off when he leaves.
p.s. I also wonder why you don’t give Emery credit for drafting Frank Omiyale in the 5th round, with pick #163. Sure, he’s the whipping boy of WCG, primarily when he must start. But as a 5th round pick and a backup OL, he’s definitely good value. I only count maybe 6 players as good or better, give or take, in the 92 picks following Gate #68 (Chris Harris, Chris Myers, Derek Anderson, Jay Ratliff, Matt Cassell, Ryan Fitzpatrick)
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 29, 2012 8:38 AM CST up reply actions
Omiyale is worse than a replacement player
If the Bears signed me, YaoPau, as an undrafted free agent and played me at LT for a season… and I proceeded to be a revolving door… that would not mean I provided good value. IMO value is being better than what you could’ve gotten with a cheap free agent pickup.
TR is right about the reason why Emery was demoted.
Overall, I think you’re right, that Emery’s teams have done well in the draft. My thinking, though, is a lot of that success shouldn’t be directly credited to him. Grimes played like a superstar, but I don’t see much evidence that Emery was that high on him, and so I think that’s mostly luck. When your team has a high pick and needs a QB, all you can really do is draft the top guy available and hope… sometimes you get Matt Ryan, sometimes you get Mark Sanchez.
I’m in the boat that Jerry Angelo was an okay drafter. He missed on some big picks, but he hit on a ton of late picks (his success on late picks destroy’s Emery’s), and he had just as many great picks (3, Hester, Briggs, Forte) as I credited to Emery. For just a general GM signing, I’m fine with it… but Phillips made it clear that his main goal was to bring in someone who was elite at scouting talent, and could close the talent gap between the Bears and the NFL’s elite teams. I don’t see that here.
Jerry was an okay drafter....
….but his drafts of late have sucked (Matt Forte and 2011 notwithstanding). He was still riding the coattails of his picks from his first 5-6 years. I tend to agree with the quip from the Tribune:
The Bears have struggled for years building through the draft. Only two Angelo first-round picks — offensive linemen Chris Williams and Gabe Carimi — remain. Two players are left from the four drafts from 2004 to 2007 — wide receiver Devin Hester and cornerback Corey Graham, who is an unrestricted free agent.
I think that as much as bringing in someone who was elite at scouting talent, the Bears wanted someone who would also be top-notch in setting up an entire organization to scout and evaluate talent, and the underlying systems to achieve that. I wonder who would have fit the bill for you, if Emery doesn’t intrigue you?
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 30, 2012 1:17 AM CST up reply actions
I was hoping for a complete change in direction
I love love love what John Schneider has done in Seattle (no QB yet hurts the overall picture, but he is just loading up on foundational talent, a lot of which he’s found late in the draft). Schneider is 38 and used to be an analyst in the Packers’ scouting department.
That Tribune quote is a little harsh on Jerry imo. The Bears have only had 3 first round picks from 2006-2011, and two of those three are still here. The third, Olsen, was a bad pick, but the Bears still have a high 3rd rounder to show for it. Let’s not forget that those picks were 29th, 14th, and 31st overall too… to have two solid OL starters and a 3rd round pick to show for it years later really isn’t that bad.
As for the 2004-2007 quote… the Trib conveniently left out the 2003 draft, where Angelo hit a couple home runs in Briggs and Tillman. 2004 gave the Bears Tommie Harris, Nate Vashar, Bernard Berrian, and Tank Johnson… not a lot of longevity there, but that’s great value. 2005 was a bad year, but without Kyle Orton the Bears don’t get Cutler; Angelo also got Chris Harris late, and he was a solid starter for a couple years. 2006 was a great draft… Hester’s a HOF, Manning gave the Bears one great year and a few solid ones, and Mark Anderson / Jamar Williams both provided some value. 2007 was hilariously bad, and I’ll leave it at that :)
He may have been the best candidate on the list.
But the list was questionable at best, Tim Ruskell was on it.
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Agreed. The List Was A Concern For Me
With the exception of Ross they all seemed to be second tier guys, why didn’t they even talk to Bill Polian or just hire him as a consultant as part of the selection process? Why not look at PP directors from the Saints, Niners or Steelers?
Emery wasn't a part of Carr and Flowers.
He was hired after the 2009 draft. He can[t have credit for players drafted before he became part of the organization.
just saying.
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by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 28, 2012 11:16 PM CST reply actions
He has a 50% chance to succeed, we’ll see. It is just another " safe " hire by the Bears.
by transylvanian bear on Jan 29, 2012 6:13 AM CST reply actions
What about Kendrick Lewis (FS of KC)?
Drafted in the 5th round (#136 overall) out of Mississippi in 2010.
This past season he started 16 games and had 60 tackles, 10 passes defended, 3 INTs (1 for a TD), and 1 forced fumble. He also started 10 games his rookie season, with 7 pdef, 3 INTs and 1 FF.
I’ve not seen him play (other than indirectly against the Bears this year), and I’m not saying he’s a Pro Bowler or anything like that – but that’s pretty good value out of a 5th round pick, so far.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 29, 2012 7:44 AM CST reply actions
In all fairness
The poll should include a “couldn’t fine enough conclusive info on Emery to really say if he was the best choice,” option. All I could really find was the Scott Pioli comment that Emery is a “hard worker.”
From what I can see of Emery, it seems like he’s had a career as an average-to-above-average college scout and director of college scouting. I seem to remember a guy that we hired from Tampa Bay about 11 years ago who had a very similar resume as a college scout/director (better, actually). How did that move work out? I have to agree with some of the others who are taking the “wait and see approach” with this. Anyway, let’s hope that Emery is able to hit on his picks in the first 3 rounds this year (we’re got 4 picks) and at least get a go-to WR and a pash-rushing DE in FA.
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