The Chicago Bears fire Jerry Angelo (overflow thread)
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 12:58 PM CST
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PrintNow that Jerry Angelo is no longer employed by the Chicago Bears, we'd like to know who you think should be the next GM. Should they stay in house? Should they let Lovie buy all the groceries? Bill Polian was just relieved of his Colts duties... or another big name candidate perhaps? Vote in the poll, and discuss...
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Martz resigns
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Is this official?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Shane Day gone too.
You know, before they were fired.
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
The hits keep coming.
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BREAKING: Mike Martz resigns from Bears over philosophical differences. Story coming soon at chicagotribune.com
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Wasn't the difference something like,
“Hey Mike? Could you stop getting Jay killed? I mean, we tried to bring Orlando Pace back. It didn’t work well.”
“No. I cannot.”
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
resigns?
He wasn’t under contract was he?
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
Here's a link.
Admittedly, there’s not much there, but this shows a news source which is reporting it.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Jan 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
Who actually voted for Tim Ruskell... I see one vote
Martz not coming back was almost a forgone conclusion after the stories about him not resigning a contract and rumors of him going to coach college…
Pretty Sure it was Ruskell.
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Don't forget his mother.
Pretty sure she would do a +1 for him.
Only pretty sure though. Certainly not based on job performance.
Cacti are prickly.
by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Sad..
Smith has more votes than Ruskell..I think a bum off the street would get more votes than Ruskell even….
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According to @danpompei and @vxmcclure the Bears are also parting ways with QB coach Shane Day.
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This day is unbelieveable
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I can't wait to go home and have a bottle of wine
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is Drake next?
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I thought Drake was pretty well respected.
We just have sub-par receivers.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
He seemed
pretty clueless and is quick to get defensive if anyone questions a receiver or the passing game. He snapped on media back in training camp, I believe.
I’d like to see if someone else can get more consistent production from Hester and Knox.
Mark this as the day that the face of your franchise became your QB.
Jay Cutler is going to have a say in how this offense looks going forward and the direction this team is heading. That dude is more untouchable than his Head Coach or anyone else and today proved it. Welcome to the 21st Century Chicago Bears.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I hope you're right
I think it’s more the case that Martzfence requires at least a season of learning and getting used to, and that you have to have the right kind of quarterback to do it, and that the odds of having a couple of backup QBs that can do it too are pretty much zilch.
Glad to be moving in another direction.
Bet the Tight ends are excited, too! Wonder what Greg Olson thinks?
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
He's smiling. lol
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
He just got arm tackled by his toilet paper
so he hasn’t seen the news yet. Luckily, he isn’t a Boozer, so he didn’t break anything. Charmin can bounce.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
I like the idea of McKenzie.
Close with Lovie, very well-respect and proven track record and could help us close the gap between the Packers. Polian is old and his son is part of the package deal. I also think since Martz is now gone that we should allow the new GM to hire an OC since he will be with Lovie whether he likes it or not. Hopefully we can get McKenzie and Tom Clements from the Pack together. I’d like that.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 PM CST reply actions
I have found a good article describing why Bill Polian would be a good hire at GM
From the Chicago Tribune:
The blueprint Polian would bring to the Bears created success with the Bills, the Panthers and the Colts. His son, Chris, also would have to be a part of the package but the Polian father-son combination in the Bears front office would represent an upgrade over the Angelo-Tim Ruskell tandem. If the Polians were able to pry highly respected Colts director of player personnel Tom Telesco away from Indy as well, it would be a coup.
And if that does not suit your fancy, then there is this guy:
If for whatever reason the Polian Plan falls through, then I would attempt to raid the Packers front office of their best available executive. Reggie McKenzie is the first name that comes to mind. Whatever GM Ted Thompson has done works and in a copy-cat league the Bears could do worse than trying to duplicate the success of their rivals to the north.
Anyway, back to Polian. His last 3 years have been seen as a steady decline in his team, the Colts; however, I also feel the decline has a great deals to do with the turnover in the coaching staff. When Bill Polian had his man in Tony Dungy, their success is unquestionable. As soon as Caldwell took over, things started to look shaky. And the O-line took a turn for the worse when Howard Mudd left for the fabled “dream-team”. He knows how to draft talented players, and better yet he drafted for coaches who ran the same system both on offense and on defense that the Bears do. He knows how to draft for his coaches.
The one major question mark that comes around, though, is not so much as with his success on defense as it is with his tendancies with FA. I’ve never seen him make a huge splash in FA. But, perhaps its because he never truly had to given his rather stellar overall success with the draft. It will be interesting to see what happens if he takes the job here, and there is immediate pressure to be aggressive in FA. One thing is for sure, he has a much better understanding on offense than Jerry Angelo ever had.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions
Polian is probably an upgrade, but I'm not sold on him.
Granted, his first round picks are always in the #25-30 range, but he hasn’t drafted a star player since Bob Sanders in 2004 (Antoine Bethea, maybe?). 2004! Has he even acquired a star player since 2004? I can’t think of any…
Comparatively, in that timeframe, Angelo’s gotten Cutler, Hester, Forte, Peppers. D Manning had some good years, even Henry Melton looks like an upgrade over who the Colts have had recently.
Maybe this means Polian is a good buy-low candidate. But Jerry Jones was once a dominant GM too…
Not really the case
Bill Polian didn’t just build a great team in Indy, he built one of the best teams ever in Buffalo. Here is another great article from CSN about Bill Polian:
From 1986-1993 Polian was the draft wizard who assembled a Bills team that reached the Super Bowl in four consecutive seasons. In 1994 he moved on to become the key cog for the expansion Carolina Panthers, an organization that arguably had the greatest meteoric rise in NFL history by reaching the NFC Championship game in only its second year of existence.
And it happens to describe that he also did well in Carolina. Basically, he has had a positive impact with 3 different franchises. Not one other GM to my knowledge comes to mind when it comes to that. The man built teams that have been in a total of 6 Super Bowls, compared to Jerry’s 1.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Polian has also been pretty fortunate...
He became GM of a team who not only had the #1 overall pick (which was Bruce freaking Smith), but also had the rights to Jim Kelly. Without having to do much at all, Polian got to start his career with two rookies who became 1st ballot hall of famers. Same thing happened in Indy with #1 overall pick (Peyton Manning) and the 2nd year Marvin Harrison.
True...
but he was smart enough to make those picks lol…
He didn’t “Ryan Leaf” the 1998 draft and he sorted through the chaff in 1985 for the right DE as well (4 DEs went in the top 10 that year).
Still, in the long run, I don’t find any “stud drafts” in Carolina or Indianapolis’ history during his tenure….Though I did find a number of repeat pro-bowlers and potential HOF players that I don’t see in Chicago where we have 1 (Hester) that Angelo drafted to date. The depth of Green Bay is unquestionable, I like the idea of poaching Reggie McKenzie.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
You're hints...are subtle...like ninja...
"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith
Actually, he didn't make the Bruce Smith or Jim Kelly picks, he made Thurman Thomas though.
Angelo drafted Briggs who has gone to 7 straight Pro Bowls and is on his way to the Hall.
Garcon's looking pretty good
but he hasn’t been studly lately in the draft, you are right…That tends to happen when many of your high profile positions are “locked in” on a football team though, doesn’t it? With Wayne and Harrison, no other receiver was gonna shine until Harrison left and Garcon is stepping up. When Clark went down, Tamme stepped up big time. Their O-Line has been troubling, and that is not good news for us, but they got locked into some vets who fell off fast (sound familiar) after a decade of success. Their RBs are talented but oft injured (E. James, J. Addai, etc) and with a bad line its hard to tell…Their ends were so good their tackles never got much play and zone corners/safeties often get overlooked, but their lack of ever having a star LB can be disturbing too. Dunno, overall, their roster minus Manning is probably about 50/50 and their drafts just south of that. Mathis, Freeney, Sanders all scores on defense and Wayne, Clark, Tamme, Garcon are all good finds on offense.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Give me some new blood
PFF nailed many of the less-heralded breakout FAs (Mathis, Tulloch, Durant, Babin), and they aren’t even scouts, they’re just dudes with NFL game pass who developed a nice scouting system. I look at the success of these finance/econ GMs in baseball and basketball, and I’d love to see a GM with a fresh take on game charting and analysis. I’m still amazed that, with all the young free agent talent out there and so many holes to fill, Angelo came away with just Spencer, Williams, Spaeth, and Meriweather.
Add to it the recent struggles of Polian and Belichick in the draft, and I’m not sure an established vet is necessarily a better choice than someone who’s trained in analyzing numbers and opinions. I’ll add that I’m probably biased about this… I’m currently in a stats master’s program. A student in my program who graduated last year interviewed for a job in the Packers’ statistics department. My professor said it’s 25 people trained in stats and scouting. As far as I know, the Bears have nothing comparable to that.
Certainly be interesting.
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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
(Ahem)
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Wow the Bears blew up the whole thing!
I still can’t believe it.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Well not the
whole thing…..Lovie and a good portion of the staff are still there…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
...for now.
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Just North of Wrigley Field
by jameslcrockett on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
True
Hard to believe a new GM will be excited about the prospect of “starting over” but getting no say in who stays and who goes.
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Unless
he is already close or has the same views as the current HC….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I'd take it...
It gives you a free pass for 2012…Spend the whole season evaluating Smith, his staff, and our collective player pool with everyone knowing it wasn’t your decisions yet, and then in 2013 the training wheels come off and you can cut/fire/trade at will.
It might actually be better than walking into our team Lovie-less…With a veteran player base that has almost ALL of your talent on defense so you can’t change systems on them anyway (Urlacher, Peppers, Briggs, Tillman all 30+, no stars/Pro-Bowl defenders under 30)…
And frankly, you get a QB for the next 8+ years which is the biggest monkey on the back for any and all GMs in the NFL, and can sign/retain a young pro-bowl running back.
The pieces are in place for early success (Defense, star QB, star RB) and you have a couple of years to evaluate, build depth, and prepare your team. Maybe I am just too glass half full.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
Yeah but that's a coach
I’m talking about a structural shift. Like the Cubs just did. This is the Bears! Things like this just don’t happen. This is a huge sports story and a huge shift in philosophy of this organization
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Oh well
that I do agree with…..I was stunned when I heard about it…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Interview the receivers coach of the Chargers
He has done a spectacular job coaching up the players. Vincent Jackson, Vincent Brown, Malcom Floyd, just 3 good names that come off the top of my head.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
No, interview the New Orleans QB coach who I believe had some playcalling duties.
He had the tutelage of Brees and Payton.
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Martz resigns, Angelo fired… I know it’s Jan. 3 but Bears fans I’ve heard from think it’s Christmas Day again.
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Seems like Martz jumped before he got pushed.
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
Have to believe there are a lot of nervous people inside Halas Hall right now.
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
It should be noted that Lovie Smith has control over assembling his coaching staff.
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Drake should be shaking like a leaf
He. Needs. To. Go.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Doubt he goes
very close with Lovie…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Please fire every damn person on the Bears scouting staff
And all directors of scouting and pro personnel. They suck
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
glorious
except the small Texas school guy…he does decent
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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The 2012 Chicago Bears...
featuring 100% less Jerry Angelo and 100% less Mike Martz.
I’d rather finish 6-10 without them than 8-8 with them.
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Just North of Wrigley Field
I'd have rather finished 7-9 now
and had the #12 pick :)
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
The 44th pick
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
at least six picks ahead..
of where we are at…keep up dude.
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by monsterman34 on Jan 4, 2012 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
Hallelujah!!
It’s about time JA is gone. So glad the GM is gone….CILL the Bears GM!
Martz was a stabilizing force for Cutty, but probably the best since their were a ton of different cooks in the kitchen.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
Cutler is a better QB for having worked with Martz.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
Funny because he hasn’t made a probowl since.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
If you haven't noticed
the Pro Bowl isn’t what it used to be. It’s an overblown popularity contest. You can’t deny the strides Jay has made in the past two seasons. That’s what I’m referring to.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
What strides?
If you’re talking about his throwing motion, that’s about it. But even with that, the guy was better when he went back to doing what he does best. It’s not like the guy was chop liver before Martz got his hands on him. Go youtube some games when Jay was in Denver against teams like the Raiders and your mouth will drop at how good he really was before he got here.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
*not throwing motion. I meant footwork
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Before he got hurt
Cutler was making plays out of his you know what, and the offense was putting up gaudy numbers against good opponents.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
I've seen the games with Denver.
I know he was a good QB before he came to Chicago. Yes, his footwork did improve and decision making seemed to improve as well. It’s also worth noting that having to deal with some of Martz’s quirks should have improved his overall game. Not being able to call audibles at the line should definitely help him in the future being able to do so with his next OC. Not being able to do what he wanted in situations should help him make the right decisions when he’s able to. Trust his instincts. Jay also has fully taken command as the leader of this offense and has evolved maturely. It might be ticky-tacky stuff but I’d still say it was a good learning experience for him and he has bettered himself because of it. I don’t think this is really something we can dispute.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, and I'd like to think that Martz is better for having worked with Cutler
But the game plan took too long to evolve when it was clear that the stuff on paper wasn’t working. I’m concerned about a drop in production with an entirely new system coming in again.
I acctually agree with this he's really cut down his interceptions.
I don’t know how much Martz is credited for that though.
This is seriously affecting my ability to be productive on my first day back at work since Dec 22.
Keep it coming!
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Right there with you, lol
I’ll actually feel LESS productive when I go to lunch in 20 minutes, since I won’t be able to follow what’s happening.
Get your Twitter on, man!
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
I am
and I have been all morning…which caused me to not pay attention and now my phone battery is shot. So it’ll be sitting here charging while I run out.
lol, well I guess you're stuck then.
Now that Halas Hall has officially moved into the 21st century as of this morning, they are no longer issuing smoke signals for benefit of electronically challenged fans.
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Teams also looking for GMs
rams, colts and raiders……Bears competition for GM search….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I really hope we get him rather than a fired GM.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
So that leaves Lovie
and with a year left on the contract and a new GM, he’s a lame duck. Who is gonna wanna work with him as an assistant coach now?
Come to the Bears
if you make the playoffs, you’re getting extended. Lovie won’t be cut loose next year if we’re looking the way we did before Cutler got hurt.
As an OC...
Come to the Bears, and with a new GM in place who won’t get canned after 2012 even if the team sucks, with a little success you have the inside track for a Head Coaching gig in Chicago in 2013.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
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Two execs threw that name out to me today. Said he’d be great in Chi. RT @PriscoCBS: Bears should hire Baltimore’s Eric DeCosta.
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Jay Cutler was at Halas Hall today. He left building a few minutes ago. He will work for 3rd Bears offensive coordinator in 4 years.
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Smiling, smug, or pouting?
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
I think his comment was
“Tell martz I said F@#$! you”……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Still
can’t imagine that Jay is super thrilled. The offense was just starting to come together. We all knew going in that using Martz would be an investment opportunity, not a get-rich-quick scheme.
He'll probably be a bit wary at least until the new guy is named
Can’t imagine he’d be thrilled to learn yet another system, but we all saw numerous instances where he didn’t agree with an offensive call, and especially the lengthy delays in making a call.
I’d like to see Jay get more freedom to call an audible if he sees something he likes—or doesn’t like.
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
The amount of time needed to get a call from the booth to the headset
has been INSANE since Martz has been here. I guess Martz calls a play, it’s sent to an assistant who then sends it over the radio to the QB. How many 1st or 2nd play timeouts did we call this year because the play was late?
Except for the fact that...
Cutler had to get on Martz’s case about throwing the ball so much and getting him killed. Once they balanced the play calling then the offense started to click. I would think that Cutler would be glad to see him gone.
by Neal Lautzenheiser on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
He just scratched that
into Martz’ car.
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
That sounds good to me
The Ravens with an old Ed Reed and an injured Ray Lewis didn’t miss a beat in this season’s second half. Pretty amazing I think. Imagine the Bears without, say, Urlacher and Tillman.
I hope they hand him
his belongings wrapped in a bandana and tied to a stick. Now that’s 1930’s hobo.
And an old-timey accent
“Now, see here, you!”
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Hmmm
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"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Tom Clement
He’d be a darkhorse, considering he doesn’t have OC experience, but no one can deny GB’s production at the most important position.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
Under contract
to gb no? I remember last season Bears wanted to bring him in but mccarthy told the Bears to go screw them selves…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
One-year deal?
Not sure, will have to check on that. I did hear earlier that he was interested in the Penn State job.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
NFL
assistants can only leave to take HC IIRC…..Thus mccarthy blocked the move…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
This is all I could find
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
How bout Brett Farve for OC?
His football juices are still flowing!
by Trey23 on Jan 3, 2012 1:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
You spelled his name like it sounds.
It’s Favre.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
No. No you didn't.
The real spelling happens to be a 4 lettered bad word on these here boards.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Brett Favre has great football instincts
no doubt about that.
But I never saw anything that indicated an ability to (or a desire to) help impart football strategy or wisdom to other people.
In short, I doubt that Brett is cut out for coaching, planning, or mentoring. Maybe scouting, but I doubt he’d be content to do something as low-profile as that. Besides, his scouting would end up producing similar results to Dick Cheney’s Vice Presidential Search committee did in Summer 2000, LOL!
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
Hmmm....
dezclark88 Desmond Clark
Egos and head butting led to the departures of Jerry Angelo and Mike Martz. Not a good situation the last 2 years. Awful environment to work
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Ego is fine
ego doesnt throw the ball to dlineman and doesnt make Knox fall down and force Cutler to chase people down
Well
he would know…..Alex Brown hinted at that as well on CTL…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Alex Brown is coming up next on the Score
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Thats a pretty damning statement from a former player
I wonder if that was a reason why big named FAs would stay clear of the Bears in the past
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
skjensen Sean Jensen
Given Jay Cutler’s fondness for him, Jeremy Bates — his former QB coach in Denver — would appear a strong outside candidate.
mikecwright Michael C. Wright
Tice logical candidate to replace Martz, but sources close 2 situation said Tice hasn’t yet met w/organization to discuss.
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
With Mike Martz out in CHI, as expected, OL Coach Mike Tice could gain more control of offense. Jeremy Bates available and worked w/Cutler..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
So Mike Tice in as OC and Jeremy Bates to take over as QB coach
Thats a pretty good start. Gimme someone else to take over as the receivers coach and I’ll be very happy.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
Well thats
not official just speculation…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I knew that much haha
I was just stating that as a likely and good scenario. Some consistancy has to remain with the offense.
Make Bill Polian the GM (look above for my reasoning) and then lather, rinse, repeat. Btw I certainly hope they don’t take months to find a new OC like the last time…
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
You could also have Bates be the OC and play caller if Tice doesn't seem cut out for it.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
I see Bates as the obvious front runner
Question is does Cutty actually like the guy? Just because they worked together in Denver doenst mean they actually have chemistry.
I hope JC gets the most input of anyone, he has earned the right to have major influence on who gets brought it. Maybe now rollouts, bootlegs, audibles and dare I say “the shotgun” will be seen in Bear football again soon.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Last night i got to see my alma mater win the Fiesta bowl
and today I get to see the Bears shaking off the Tavis Smiley complacency.
This is as exciting as draft weekend!
Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.
"Tavis Smiley complacency"
Ha! I love it!
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I hope whoever our new GM is will realize
how inept J. Webb is at LT. He sucks.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 3, 2012 2:08 PM CST reply actions
He's 23 and physically gifted
You don’t start him the past two years to bench him now.
Unless we receive a significant upgrade at LT in free agency.
I’d be happy to let him be a swing tackle for a couple years to develop more, then we turn him loose as a more seasoned veteran that can hold Allen to less than 3 sacks.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
in all fairness to J-Webb
1. Jared Allen is simply a beast. Not many guys that good with a high-motor.
2. Josh McCow may be (somewhat) mobile, but he’s still limiting the plays that are called.
and he was a 7th Rd pick, starting for the past 2 years. I agree we need an upgrade at LT, hopefully in this coming draft.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Lets see what FAs are out there first.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
So many things if you're the new GM....
I think it’s worth noting the Bears have an extra 3rd rounder from the Olsen trade. I wonder how they will approach the draft and free agency?
I would approach free agency for your WR’s Vincent Jackson would be the first guy I call. I would use the draft to rebuild the defense at S, LB, CB and End.
and more...
Reggie Wayne will likely get out of Indy and that is a really nice stop gap at receiver…Garcon is in a contract year as well but less likely to escape…Colston’s in a contract year and so is Bowe. I really want a trade up for Blackmon, damn the “trading away the draft” counterarguments, its what my heart wants :)
"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin
I wouldn't jump the gun on Wayne. Although he is the most likely out of the the big targets to be on the market
I can see the return of Manning forcing him to stay. That and I think his top choice would be the Saints as a replacement for the surely departed Meachem to play across from Colston.
Just got here, this made my day
So who can we hire that knows what a good offensive lineman looks like?
And Norv Turner is staying on in SD? Really? Really?
Whose job am I supposed to call for now?
I say trade a bunch of picks and try for a top tier wide out
deal the number 1 and both number 3s and try for a top ten pick and go for a guy like Justin Blackmon. Look what Stafford has with megatron, we need a guy who is a 24×7 double team for the opponents defense.
A great receiver,a few Olineman and maybe a tight end who is taller than 6-2 and we might be onto something.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
We need to hire
McKenzie from GB as GM and he can bring Tom Clements to be the OC.
Our offense is yet once again..
going to have to learn a new system, damn!! Real happy about JA getting the shaft though.
What did one tampon say to the other..nothing, they were both stuck up cunts..lmao!!
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