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Breaking: Mike Martz Resigns - "Philosophical Differences" Cited

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Per Dan Pompei's twitter feed:

Mike Martz resigns from Bears over philosophical differences. Story coming soon at chicagotribune.com

Is this some kind of magical wish fulfillment day for Bears fans?

It certainly seems that way, with the ouster of Angelo, and Martz leaving. A new GM could have a much more attractive looking job than it was even just hours ago, especially depending on how much strength George McCaskey actually gives them.

Now, it could be that the "philosophical difference" was that they told him if he was getting a new contract, he was going to fundamentally change the way he calls games, but it could be that he really, really, liked the influence he had over Jerry Angelo (see: Manumaleuna, McCown)

UPDATE: Quarterbacks coach Shane Day is also out. The Bears are indeed making some very significant changes today. Stay tuned...

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Basically this means that Lovie will be fired next year

with both Angelo and Martz gone, McCaskey will want to make his own decisions. Whoever is the new GM will want his own Head Coach next year. I have no idea who will be the new OC. I’ve always thought Jim Fassel should get a second chance. As for the new GM, it will probably be Ruskell on a one year lease. As far as who replaces Lovie, maybe Bill Cowher or Jay Gruden?

by Jcrew1179 on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions  

Holy Halas Hall

This is a crazy day for the Bears.

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost

by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 PM CST reply actions  

Most importantly

How, exactly, do you resign from a contract that doesn’t really exist?

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

well from what i understand

he was offered one but Martz wanted a raise so he didnt accept it

by lowkeyman on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol right.

Rivera got the hell out of dodge before crap hit the fan

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you mean by "crap hit the fan"

as in his team (Chargers) not doing as well as the Bears?

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

did he have a few days left before the NFL league year ended?

idk how that works for teams eliminated from playoffs

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Presumably

His contract ran through the Super Bowl so he resigned, technically, before it ran out, but he really got poop-canned.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It's his way

of resigning his “ego” from the Bears.

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol
So happy as soon as the wife gets home from work

I thought the second half of that thought was going in a different direction.

If its free, take two.

by T.J. Shouse on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Scrabble??

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

connect 4?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Twister.

;)

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 3, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

why did you wink at me...

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

(quickly hides pipe)

Nuuuuuuuuuthinnnnnnnnn’…

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

DUDE I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS THAT KINDA PARTY!!@

white widow?

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrecked:

For staying home and playing on WCG while your wife works. #America

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by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

DEY TOOK HIS JORB

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

as soon as i can get wanda out of the box and inflated to 35 psi

…the celebration begins. Now if only I can find a can of Cheez Whiz.

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by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Nor did the rest of the offense.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Even Matt Forte?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

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by ed_brown on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Forte didn't share Angelo's vision ;)

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup. Thank goodness for that!

Lol

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

It's Bill Brasky Esque

They hated the offense! And they were part of the offense! And they hated irony!

by Gatticus Finch on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes. Yes it is.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

Guess even Martz agreed with my Fan Post from last week :D

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by LRT on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

However, Norv Turner is staying at SD

shucks

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM CST reply actions  

worst case

probably

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Hell, the worst case scenario was the BEST case scenario last week.

I’m practically dancing for joy at the changes in the last 48 hours.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

My only hope (as unlikely as it may be)

is that the new OC uses a lot of the same terminology as Martz. Because when Cutler, Forte and some of the O-line is healthy, we put up good points.

by tacologic on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM CST reply actions  

Whoa

Mike Martz AND Shane Day are out. Please please please let Daryll Drake be next!!!!!!!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Drake needs to be gone

Guns dont kill people. Brian Urlacher kills people.

by Bear Lovin 21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously

If he is somehow kept, I’ll be extremely irritated, to say the least…

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Compared to Martz and JA?

BE HAPPY people! Two of the worst of the worst are gone right now. i’m more interested in who gets looked at for the GM position.

Lovie knows he needs a GOOD OC that will fit to scheme after Martz saying “philosophical” differances.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still rather happy

But that idiot (Drake) needs to be gone. He is the last major piece of filth left in Halas Hall.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget heir apparent to JA.

I haven’t heard him getting the axe yet.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm thinking the sole reason he is still on the staff

Is because they will let the next GM decide who stays and who leaves.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

did anyone really expect Martz back?

this is not a suprise

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by ed_brown on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 PM CST reply actions  

Gotta wonder what the players are thinking right now

Now they need a wise OC who will come in and call plays with a similar terminology to that of the Martzfense. Will it be Mike Tice?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Here we go assuming things:-)

by transylvanian bear on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

not assuming the fact he turned down a contract extension before the season started.

Lovie signed his without a big pay raise.

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by ed_brown on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

No

I think Tice and Spencer, the RB coach, will both stay. But I seriously hope Daryll Drake is kicked out!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope they're all out

Tice isn’t as good as everyone gives him credit for

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Tice needs to stay as OL coach

and improve them to, like, 26th best in the league.

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by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Things are getting crazy now

I hope that the change in Offensive Coordinators doesn’t mess up anything for Cutler next year. I’d hate to see him fall into an Alex Smith situation of having to learn a new offense constantly.

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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST reply actions  

Better a new offense then 5 games of 11 step death drops.

I want Cutler to be here for a LONG time, not sidelined like Austin Collie due to concussions symptoms.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course

I just hope the revolving door of Coordinators doesn’t continue after whoever the new guy is

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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

"Philisophical Differences"

Unfortunately for Mike, the Bears philosophy has suddenly changed from “content to suck” to “lol GTFO.”

by Gatticus Finch on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

RU saying the new Bears GM is a LOLCat?

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus we're already 1-0.

Lovie said so.

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by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

are we the only undefeated team in 2012

to fire our GM and OC?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Who cares.

Chargers did just get rid of AJ Smith and Turner though.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

no they didn't

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

this is false

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong

Matter of fact, they have released a statement to the media saying not only are they keeping both GM AJ Smith and HC Norv Turner, but they have full confidence in both of their respective abilities.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow. I'd be pissed if I was a C fan

Smith screwed that org for years.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you think any OC's will want to come here

They had Chris Mortenson on the radio and he was saying how OC’s might be reluctant to come here b/c of a new GM and Lovie being in the hot seat next year for sure. Maybe, we could get Jeremy Bates to be the QB coach and Tice the OC

by lowkeyman on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

I'm thinking the Bears will be after anyone who knows even a little about the Air Coryell offense

A name to consider would be the Charger’s receivers coach.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Mr. Bates even available?

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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Hasn't worked in a year

got fired from Seattle

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

inspiring,,,a guy who would rather get fired in Seatle and be out of football for a year

than be OC in Chicago.

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by ed_brown on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan personally

not at OC at least…I mean, he got fired from Seattle…now as QB coach I’d be alright with it

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Seahawks are a cluster f*ck.

Between Mora’s incompetence and Carroll firing everybody and anybody, I wouldn’t put much stock into anything involving the Seahawks the last couple years.

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by jameslcrockett on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

but this is interesting
JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
With Mike Martz out in CHI, as expected, OL Coach Mike Tice could gain more control of offense. Jeremy Bates available and worked w/Cutler..

I never knew or heard that

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

duh wrong tweet

dipSh**

JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora
But when Bates chose SEA over CHI a few years back, he and Cutler had a falling out. Would have to repair some stuff there #insideslant

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

What the Cutler Bates falling out?

Broadcast and media brought that up a few times last season when the Bears played seattle twice….During one of the broadcast though they said they had mended fences but some in the local media mentioned that Cutler was still upset bates went to seattle…..

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

guess I missed all that

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Which part?

Because people won’t shut up about Mike Tice being the OC

Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.

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by Kev H on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I messed up

:(

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You are not only the worst blogger on WCG,

you’re also the second worst.

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by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I get twice the pay that way

moar werthers original’s for me

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i wish they would

Tice is overrated

Line still sucks, but yet he’s still considered anOL guru? LOLWTF

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

uh..

no Cdub and no Carimi for the year??

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

really that's your argument?

we didn’t have a 1st round bust tackle that has been playing LG , and we didn’t have our rookie RT

That’s why the line sucked?

Face it, Tice is a bust

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I personally think

aside from Chris Williams at LG, if everyone played in one position regularly they might be better, instead of Garza at C, Spencer at G, Louis at RT etc

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

uh....

you are what your record says your are

isn’t that the rally call for dumping JA and Lovie

why would Tice get a pass on that.

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by ed_brown on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He is not getting a pass

but he was playing for a good portion of the season without 2 starters.

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny I don't feel drunk.

Mr. T pities the fool who wonders "how much jib could a jibba jabber jabba if a jibba jabber could jibba jabbas."

by Ditkavsworld on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 PM CST via Android app reply actions  

lmao

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Tice

You have to assume Tice is the first choice….

by joepepp23 on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I might create a new profile just to rec this more

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Bravo!

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by SaintCee on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

BRILLIANT!

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by TheotherDane on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

This post is making me wonder what the record is for most rec's....

Mr. T pities the fool who wonders "how much jib could a jibba jabber jabba if a jibba jabber could jibba jabbas."

by Ditkavsworld on Jan 3, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Smart choice.

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 3, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Pompei had an interesting name in his article

Link

Never considered Brian Billick, probably because his offenses as a HC were garbage

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

huh?? As OC

that Viking offense was pretty potent in the late 90’s..

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

He said as HC of the Ravens.

He’s right, but Cutler > Dilfer.

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by jameslcrockett on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

they were good enough to win a Super Bowl.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

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The Coach-Martz is now open!

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 3, 2012 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone see this?
dezclark88 Desmond Clark
Egos and head butting led to the departures of Jerry Angelo and Mike Martz. Not a good situation the last 2 years. Awful environment to work

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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

It makes you think, doesn’t it?

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

can he elaborate?

I mean head butting with whom?? What kind issues were they having? Was it with different coaching staff?

by Man G on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Guessing he will explain it on the radio
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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Whooooaaa that is INTERESTING

If we all remember a couple years ago, Angelo distanced himself from the Martz hire, said it was Lovie’s choice not his. So maybe they have clashed for the last couple years. Don’t know why then Martz would jump ship after JA was booted, there is more to this nugget but it’s interesting.

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by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel I have to post this

one of the guys I ran track with in high school shopped this a year ago

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:49 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

For those clamoring for Mike Tice to be promoted to OC,

what offense would he run? He’s never called plays in his entire career, at any level.

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by Dane Noble on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

idk

I’d like to give him the chance, everybody has to start somewhere sometime right. I mean its not like the Eagles making their O-Line coach a DC. Tice has offensive experience, maybe he could come up with a more run heavy version of Martz offense with sprinkles of other schemes he’s worked in or around?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I think I saw something on ESPN about a college team making their DB coach into an OC

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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It was Notre Dame

Fix the Offensive Line

by touchdown bears on Jan 3, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

He has called plays

according to Sean Jensen, when he covered the Vikings. But he wasn’t named OC, don’t know what the exact situation was there.

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott Linehan called the plays in Minny back then.

Maybe Tice had some say in it, but he’s never run an offense.

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by Dane Noble on Jan 3, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand this argument

But everyone has to start somewhere, there would never be anyone promoted at anything if everyone just dismissed it with “Well they’ve never done that before” but at some point you’ve had to be given a chance and Tice has been around the offensive side of the ball an awful long time, you’d think he could have the means to build somewhat of a decent offense.

This isn’t like “oh yeah let’s name the mail clerk our CEO” it’s just a natural promotion, like in any business. He’s got the resume.

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by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Philosophical Differences

As in, he doesn’t care if he ruins the Franchise QB, The Franchise differs.

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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

hopfuly the new oc can max what abilities our offense doea have while our new gm can give him actual pieces through the draft and fa. we have a decent core offensively. qb and rb are good. o line despite there growing pains most of the line did improve. a year of game exp will go a long way into next season. the receiving core needs help but eral Bennett is a soild number 2 knox assuming he well enough to play and hester offer great speed and big play ability. we need to add pieces but i like that there making changes. im all for an offensive overhaul

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I'd just like to throw this out there...

Pep Hamilton.

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

lololololololol

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

that is a name I haven't heard in a while

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

he's the offensive coordinator at Stanford

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw that on the wikipeida

very interesting…but I seem to remember a lot of…um fan distaste for him

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

hhhmmm....

Stanford did alright, but if we’re dipping to college ranks, how about Boise State’s OC?

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather have their turf

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

If we're doing wholesale changes....

Why Not?

We could put a DayGlo Orange field in.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll throw another one out there

John Shoop.

He’s been calling plays at UNC the last couple years, their offense was pretty good.

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by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Good

Martz was a terrible fit from the beginning.

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In a word

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by emdub on Jan 3, 2012 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

this

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing there's not a lot of deep philosphical discussion between those two.

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by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

True that.

But he probably still deserves a pretty steep Monopoly handicap against KC.

Whatever. As long as he’s happy and she doesn’t Yoko out on us.

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by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

hey man i'm 12 shots into my day

and i’m still truckin

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Does there really need to be?

I wouldn’t exactly be trying to discuss Moral Philosophy with her anyway.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Woo-hoo!

Thimble shots.

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by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

solid

rather have someone from the Packers or Ravens but as a third choice I’d be okay with him

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

If this organization is looking for someone to have an immediate impact

Then Bill Polian is the best answer. The guy has a grand total of 6 Super Bowl teams on his resume. Everywhere he has gone (Buffalo, Carolina, and Indy) he has built Super Bowl contending teams, including the Bills team that reached 4 consecutive Super Bowls.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't believe they let him go after a decade of 10-12 win seasons, and one putrid year.

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Madness? THIS IS DA BEARS

Sorry. Had to say it.

I am not sure that firing Martz was the smartest idea unless they’re going to keep a form of Martzfense in place. Tearing down the whole offensive philosophy AGAIN is just going to waste 2012. Mike Tice at least has offensive play-calling experience so he’s at least a possibility. Plus I have a suspicion he was calling some plays in the last year in Chicago, I remember him and Jay Cutler talking to each other and (apparently) to McCown in a brief shot during the Vikings game.

It remains to be seen who could replace Tice. It’d be a Bears fan’s dream if it was Kreutz, I think he could potentially be a great coach.

As for the GM, I’d rather steal the Packers guy over Polian. The fact that Polian would entrust so many responsibilities to an incompetent silver-spoon son is a colossal red flag.

by themacattack on Jan 3, 2012 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

I really don't want to see the start of 2012

with 11 step drops AGAIN, and take over 4 games to find out how to run the ball. If it happened again this year, and the year prior then why WOULDN’T it happen NEXT year?

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

MIKE TICE DOESNT HAVE PLAY CALLING EXPERIENCE

PEOPLE…stop saying that…jeez

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually

Sean Jensen stated this morning on twitter that Tice did call plays in minny back he was HC there…..Not all the time but he did call plays and come up with offensive schemes……

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Tonight we dine!

IN GINOS EAST!!!

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by T.Moore on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard John Schoop is on his way in for a visit..

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM CST reply actions  

I hope this is a joke

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course it is..

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

...

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

this^

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Boring.

Mine is more current events.

by Arbusto on Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

STFU.

That man deserves to be the pooper scooper at the Rose Parade.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Beautiful mental image
ESPNChiBears Dickerson and Wright
Bears say Ted Phillips will be speaking at podium. George McCaskey will also be available in some fashion. JD

George chilling with a cigar and a smirk…

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

I was thinking more of a long-handled scythe

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by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Okay with all these moves

but we can really hit a home run if we trade up and get Justin Blackmon.

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM CST reply actions  

if we hadn't won

we may not have had to

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Uhhh he definitely solidified a top 5 spot after last night

that dude is LEGIT
if he makes it out of the top 3 id be surprised

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

usually WR don't go high though

most of the time it seems WR are drafted around the 10th spot and farther down…which would give us a shot at a top WR prospect had we lost

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

AJ Green

Megatron
wr go top 5 all the time bro

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The ""Great Ones" do, but so do the huge busts

but check this out
from 2005-2009
(lifted from Mocking the Draft).

A lot of “solid guys” go after the 10th, and upon further review, after the 19th too… so maybe there’s hope

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

thats only 05-09

they did another article from 00-04, but I didn’t link that one, only a few guys are still in the NFL from then

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Aha

That post was a little tongue in cheek (mine) . Terrell was awful, but I think there’s a bit of variability no matter what position you’d look at. Busts happen…a lot… particularly at the skill positions

by 2883 on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

it just seems with WR

especially in the 00-04 article that more busts happen above the 10th pick for WR than not

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

what about QB or RB

Ryan Leaf? Alex Smith? etc

RB I can’t think of a big time RB bust off the top of my head, other than Enis.. (Ugh) but later on, Cedric , apparently the Bears suck at picking high.. ha

by 2883 on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Alex Smith was pretty solid this season

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah you're right

Only took 7 seasons though.

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by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Late bloomer

maybe he finished puberty and his hands grew

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by ThorCo on Jan 4, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

doesn't matter bro

U said WR don’t usually go in the top 5, but in cases like Blackmon, they do

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

They don't usually

more are statistically drafted later ;)

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Ya and Crabtree wasn't supposed to fall to 10

and in 08 there were supposed to be a few first round WR’s. Draft trades happen, players fall.

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

especially ones of Blackmon's quality

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Here is the other good news regarding the firing of Jerry Angelo

Teams may be far more willing to make a deal with the Bears, since Jerry Angelo embarressed everyone with his round 1 blunder this past April.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, excellent remembery there, ECD.

I forgot about that.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I suggested in another post

that we need Blackmon to committ a minor offense like parking in a handicap spot or something to make his stock slide.

Maybe we should frame him…who’s with me??

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by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I like your thinking..that made me laugh

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By the way..

AUDIBLES ARE BACK!

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

Only problem is

With Martz and Jerry gone…who do I irrationally hate

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST reply actions  

Nickleback..

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cade McNown

Always a good choice.

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by emdub on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Still have Hanie on the roster.

0-4 deserves some love.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Give it two games where the offense doesn't score 25 points.

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Aaron Rodgers

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by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

And the entire GB team.

Especially Roid Boy.

Is it too much to ask for someone to tackle them by their hair if they grab a INT?

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

The entire Detroit Lion fanbase

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by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Ding..ding...we have a winner!

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Screw the Lions.

After Megatron leaves via FA they will fade to irrelevance again.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

your so mean

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

There's nothing irrational about hating that

I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus

by iowaBear on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone in our government, or how about Flo, from Progressive?

Fix the Offensive Line

by touchdown bears on Jan 3, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Loved this by Greenberg

But regardless of next year’s record, Smith’s job security is now akin to a safety’s job security under his tenure, which is to say, tenuous at best.

by C-Razzle on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM CST reply actions  

Good. I've had enough of "We're happy with what we have" from him.

His press conferences drive me nuts. He’s either deliberately insulting the media and fans with his inane fiction, or he truly believes what he’s saying.

Either way, it makes me want to smack him. If there’s any way to prod him to reach just a little higher, i’d like to see it implemented.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

He does what he's supposed to do.

Not piss off players. Not giving the media (ESPN) anything to run a controversy over. Not give away any gameplan.

I’m still not sure why people even watch them. Not a single coach holds a noteworthy presser, save for a few meltdowns

by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I know theyre always full of coachspeak

but it seems a bit much to walk out of a total disaster of a game and say. “We like where we are”

As long as the players don’t buy it too, it’s OK.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the Mayans predicted this in their calendar for 2012

"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f**k the prom queen."

by Maelvampyre on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

Just saw this tweet and pic
ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
A look inside Halas Hall, where Ted Phillips will address media at 4 PM CT yfrog.com/h3ff4hpj

We don’t even have a room in Halas Hall with Bears Wallpaper for conferences…for crying out loud do they rent out the room?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

I've been in a lot of press rooms in my day

They all look like that. I assume so it can easily be changed with new sponsors and/or logo changes.

Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
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by Sam Householder on Jan 3, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions  

So who else thinks Forte thinks Xmas came late this year?

He actually has a chance at a good contract now.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

Why?

Martz game him his best season as a pro. Minus the injury. Which isn’t really martz’s fault.

by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait no more:

Rosey

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice!

Jerry Angelo famously said he wanted a few solutions, and Tuesday, the Bears finally opted for one of the smartest: firing Angelo

by C-Razzle on Jan 3, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I particularly enjoyed his summary of the O-line
A guard is playing center, a center is playing guard, a guard is playing right tackle, a right tackle is playing left tackle, and the last guy is a backup for a left guard who’s paid like a left tackle and can’t last a full season anywhere because he’s always getting hurt because he came here hurt.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Man talking about a head scratcher.

by transylvanian bear on Jan 3, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I am still looking for that ledge he often goes on.

by transylvanian bear on Jan 3, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you warming up to sing?

And if so, are you a fat lady about to serenade Martz and Angelo?

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Now can we get some qualified people in, please?

by transylvanian bear on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM CST reply actions  

Sad to see Martz go

Two preseasons ago I read about all the cool downfield plays the Bears were working on, and then the season started and Frank Omiyale and J’Marcus Webb happened.

Never had much to work with (some of that blame goes to him, I suppose), had to re-shuffle his offense entirely to run-heavy, and the Bears had a combined 18-8 record until the Cutler injury. Jay looked better under Martz, too.

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions  

Jay only looked good under martz

When he told martz to go
f*** himself and did his own thing, finally prompting martz to shape up (finally)

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by Jessica312 on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ok, it's official

I have to put down some of today’s time on personal holiday. Way too much goofing off. :)

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by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

ugh

PLZ NO COLTS

why higher anyone off of a team that only won 2 games

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he doesn't really excite me either

Rather see Tice getting a shot, Titans wanted him last year.

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

What's with the love affair with Tice?

Bears got him and our line still sucks

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Blame Jerry

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

No

Jerrygave him 2 1st round picks, cdub n carimi, gave him a couple decent vets too, no reason they were that bad except Tice sucks

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

hw bot last year when they gave up 52 sacks?

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

no carimi

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Tice was the one who put C Will at guard

where he arguably played his best football.

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Just because people are first rounders doesn't mean that they are valuable players.

HENCE THE JERRY ANGELO FIRING.

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 3, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Cause he needs talent

Not a couple of 7th rounders who are athletic and have promise. What’s he got to work with? He did fairly well if you ask me.

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by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

At the very least with a band-aid of an OL in year two

His group still made decent progress from year 1.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Brock Lesnar just retired from UFC

Put him on offensive line no one would mess with that guy not even suh

by dmtrpt11988 on Jan 3, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though he didn't have an MVP candidate throwing passes to him?

He has been an excellent receivers coach over the years. His work with the position has been remarkable to say the least.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

to for

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

puke

that’s like giving a guy a job because he had two HOF WR’s a HOF RB, QB and LT to work with

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

HOF Rt too i believe...Adam Timmerman right?

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

idk about HOF

and i thought Fred Miller was the RT then…I could be wrong though

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

no not in 99. Ur thinking of when they played the Pats in the SB

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

actually ur right. Miller was RT

Timmerman was RG

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought so

I knew Timmerman was on that team though…I remember his really goofy face in Madden 03

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

He was a beeaassstttt

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Orlando Pace was the LT on that team as well

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Even his flattop was pissed.

"More cowbell" - Bruce Dickinson; "More bell cow" - Lovie Smith

by Pete Dixon on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

His success with the receivers has been undeniable

If he comes in as the OC, expect Daryll Drake to be gone

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude just because the receivers were solid doesn't make him the best candidate around.

Yeah his receiving corps consists of a beast named Reggie Wayne and solid #2’s. But the Colts have an awful run game and have always had an awful run game. Plus if he were that good why did their offense suck this year?

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning wasn't available

And the Colts haven’t had a running game since James left them years ago. Plus, once again he ran a similar system in Indy that Chicago ran last year, so this is something to expect.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Got to admit, though

Forte is much better than Addai or Brown. And when your passing game is sidelined, the opposing teams can key on the run.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah and with a young QB, they were blitzed a lot

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't blame Christensen for anything

And when his team was healthy:

As for Christensen, he just completed his second season as the Colts’ offensive coordinator. Christensen’s offense surpassed 5,000 yards and 400 points last season with a healthy Peyton Manning running the show.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

key words
Peyton Manning running the show

I bet I could be the OC, and call plays using only the “Ask Madden” option and still lead the Colts to a winning record and 3000 yards passing with Manning healthy

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't stop MJD from beasting it.

All I’m saying is that the Colts have better offensive personnel than the Bears do. Without Manning they still have a great #1, solid #2 receivers, a couple of decent TE’s in Tamme and Clark and a WAY better OL yet they were God awful. The Bears have a lousy OL, mediocre at best receivers, non-existent TE’s, and lost a stud QB and RB yet they played better.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Got to wonder what would happen if Bill Polian comes to Chicago

And, again, when his QB was healthy, his team put up over 5,000 yards and 400 points. It was only his 2nd year as an OC in Indy.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah because it's Peyton Manning. Everyone knows that it's Manning calling the shots in Indy and has always been the one calling the shots.

Without Manning, you see how mediocre that offense and the one calling the plays is. Peyton Manning could throw for 4000 yards and 40 TD’s in any system because he’s that damn good.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeremy Bates as OC??

Worked with Cutler in DEN

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Their offense was solid under Orlovsky

I’m pretty sure Curtis Painter is at Moses Moreno level.

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

what about Isaac Bruce?? He worked with the WR in camp the last couple years

An all-time great WR

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda think a great QB can make WRs look better than they are

We’ve seen how players like Deion Branch, Brandon Stokley have done elsewhere. Garcon did well without Manning this year, but he also had 60 more targets than any Bears receiver…

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

holy poo balls!!

Haven’t checked this site in a few days and I come back to hear Martz and Angelo are gone?? what happened??

Halellujah!!! Holy sh**!!!

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by Jessica312 on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

BradBiggs Brad Biggs
Talked to former Lovie Smith assistant today and asked him to guess how many ex-Lovie assistants there are. He said 12. Real number now 28.
BradBiggs Brad Biggs
And that total of 28 ex-assistants for Lovie Smith includes guys who have left for other jobs on their own without getting axe.
peggykusinski peggy kusinski
#Bears HC Lovie Smith: “after meeting w/Mike this afternoon we both felt it best to move in different directions”

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM CST reply actions  

28

talk about a big tree…haha I kid I kid

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously though, just curious

if one were to make a Lovie Smith coaching tree, who would be on it for the branches…Toub, Rivera, Perry Fewel or whatever his name is…who else?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Rahim Morris right?

Mike Tomlin?

uhhhh

uhhh

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Tomlin coached under Lovie?

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought he was the DB coach in Tampa when Lovie was LB coach..

well i guess that’s technically Dungy not Lovie. NVM

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

that's an amazing stat, didn't realize it was that many

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if we could name them all

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Chargers retain Norv and AJ

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions  

sadface

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Sucks to be Chargers.

I was in SD when Smith decided he really didn’t need either Schottenheimer OR Brees. When you tell a franchise defining RB to go find a home cause he’s not welcome there anymore.

Smith is a nasty piece of work who treats players he no longer feels productive like crap.

Been waiting to see him fired for a LONG time.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

hi there

Hey guys want to introduce myself first and say I have been reading this blog for quite a while now and finally made an account to post on. I think its one of the best bears blogs around.

OT: So far I can’t argue with the moves the bears have made with angelo and martz but I will be ripping my hair off another summer hearing about the transition to a new offense from the media and the bears which imo is a step back unless they keep tice as OC using the same terminology, not many eye popping OC names on the market right now tbh. Gota see what happens and maybe the new gm will surprise me.

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Weclome to WCG!!
I think its one of the best bears blogs around.

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by Cutler6fan8 on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

What about Chudzinzky?

isn’t he available?

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:06 PM CST reply actions  

isn't he the OC in CAR??

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

thats where he's at

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

yep they have a good offense, 2 solid RB's, Steve Smith, Olsen, Shockey

I think they were missing their best 2 LB, but that offense scored a lot of points

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

don't forget a STUD quarterback

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

who I honestly thought would suck

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew he'd be decent

didn’t think he’d be spectacular though

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought he was with the Browns?

or was it the Chargers

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

think he’s linked to head coaching positions rather than staying an OC

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I know... Lol

I’m already considering Lovie canned

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

if only and if only cowher can be his replacement too =(

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Fisher, Jon Gruden too??

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

ehhhh

ehhhhh

I think Bearsshould get an Offensive minded HC next time..

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

seems like lately

more of the winning teams are led by offensive minded coaches, with a few good Defensive background coaches

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

They usually have an offensive minded coach

with a DC that’s a guru… i.e Packers with McCarthy and Lebeau

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Gruden would be my 1st choice as the next HC

Has a lot of experience coaching young QBs, I think he’d really help Cutler out

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

people say gruden is a bigger loudmouth and more stubborn than martz idk :/

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

just an idea for an offensive-minded HC

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard that too

The guy is a miracle worker if he can make Derek Anderson a Pro Bowler

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Phoenix Suns, Arizona Diamondbacks, Phoenix Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers fan
[I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].

Leading the NFL in swagtangibles

by JoeCB1991 on Jan 3, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

fisher goin to STL or miami

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions  

Scratch this name off the list...

skjensen Sean Jensen
After talking to NFL executives, I don’t see Eric DeCosta coming to Chicago. His wife is from B-more area, and Ravens take good care of him

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM CST reply actions  

whipped little bitch

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

what about someone from the front offices of PIT, NE, GB ??

Anyone from one of those teams available?? That’s where the next GM should be hired from.

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

reggie mckenzie from the packers

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

is he assistant GM??

Would be great to bring over a couple of their offensive assistants as well

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

So far he seems like the best candidate I've heard of.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

from reading wikipedia he’s spent over 25ish years managing and all that good stuff so maybe

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

director of football

operations….packers would block any moves to bring in assistant coaches….They blocked clements interview with Chicago 2 yrs ago…..

Apparently McKenzie refuses to go to oakland because he does not want to up root his family…..Daughter attends Wheaton college currently and wants to stay close to her…..Rumors though….

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Are they allowed to the block the Bears from promoting one of their assistants?

I thought that was something any team had the right to do.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Teams can block interviews for assistant interviewing for other assistant coaching spots even if it is precevied as a promotion (ie WR coach becoming OC)…..Cant block interviews that allow them to interview for HC though…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

So what about a GM position?

I know about the assistant coaches but assumed GM was the same as HC in that regard.

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by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

From my understanding

no assistant front office personnel is not treated in the same way….If mckenzie wanted to interview packers could not stop him….Bears would just have to ask permission…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching ESPN now

Looks like Mike Tice is the guy most likely to get the OC, and Bill Polian could be the next GM.

Clyde Christensen could get the nod and will likely interview with the Bears, but could also be the new WR coach.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

Has Drake been let go?

Wouldn’t be surprised if they handed him the OC job

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Not yet

But its certainly a good possibility.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

wouldn't that be a nightmare

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

a nightmare inside a nightmare

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

bum bummmmmm

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldnt

put to much stock into ESPN national….Seems they predict wrong when it comes to Chicago football matters…..ESPN local isnt to bad…..

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

They did say Chicago was an 8-8 team...

But that was with all the starters in place.

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by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Well meant

when it came to hiring firing type stuff….Mean they had nick saban as new Bears HC way back in 04….Then had reports / rumors that bates would be the new Bears OC in 09……

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

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by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I woud like to see a 3-4 D implemented in Chicago

that’d be sweet

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST reply actions  

No

That would need years of rebuilding in Chicago.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah the D is built for a 4-3

no need to change it

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

who cares. it'd be awesome

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

don't have the personnel to run it, would require a total scheme change

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

Not only player in the front seven would ever fit in a 3-4.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Pep at Outside LB

Izzy at 3-4 DE

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely not

Peppers ain’t getting younger, leave him with his hand on the ground. And same with Izzy. Not one DT or LB on the roster would be a good fit in a 3-4.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Lach and Briggs would be ILB's and if Mario Williams could transition then Pep could.

But in a 3-4, the CB’s need to be good at man coverage which they are not on this team. Also there is no real 3-4 NT on this team.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

might now be possible without angelo dedicating the draft to dlinemen who can jump out of pools, we would need so much more LB corp and maybe peppers can play it too? seems athletic enough

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember when Pep was a FA

He said he wouldn’t mind playing LB in a 3-4 system

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think we have the right personal as of now

2-3 years from now when Lach, Peppers and Briggs are done or close, maybe switch then

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by ThorCo on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

as long as Lovie's here, we're stuck w/ the Cover 2 though

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

NO, NO, NO!

We have the worst personnel for a 3-4. I could stomach a move back to a Jaron style 4-3 shoot the gap defense with HUGE Defensive Tackles, but not a 3-4. At least then all we would need is a couple of monster DT’s.

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by NormalFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It's called rebuiliding son

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer to wait and do the rebuilding after the current team collapses

Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, and Peppers are very good fits for this scheme. We seem to have a good combo developing in the safety positions (if they stay healthy), and only need to get some quality opposite Tillman and Peppers to keep the defense as a major strength.

The defense is still good, why fix it if it is not broken?

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by NormalFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

If I'm the Bears new GM, whoever it is...

I would use the draft for rebuilding the defense and Free Agency to build around Cutler.

I’m going ALL IN for Vincent Jackson and maybe another vet tackle to protect Cutler. Maybe another WR and pass catching TE.

Then I’m looking at the draft to infuse youth into my defense at S,LB,DE,CB.

by BloodHorn on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

yep gotta start building through the draft, I'd be OK w/ a FA like V-Jack

but overall it’s way beyond time to become a draft-driven team, all the successful organizations are

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"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally agree

i have been saying this for the last few weeks. I think it makes so much sense. We need wr play maker to contribute now. This team doesnt have time to develop a wr. And right there with you on D. In the first round i like LB,DE,or DB

by TR MacReady on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Pompei says

Bears looking for GM outside of the org, using 3rd parties.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

oh no, anything but that

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"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Good

I don’t even want to think about Ruskell getting a consideration

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

im actually scared of that

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Wonder if they RE hired

a firm yet to run the GM search that gave them Jerry Angelo…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Know what's really despressing about this?

Bears don’t have their best Offensive weapon from 2010. Because of an OC that just got canned

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM CST reply actions  

hope forte resigns. seemed like angelo was being an asshole on not resigning him

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

u mean re-signs i hope... not resigns lmao

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

my bad sir

re-signs there we go

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

^_~

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I received an email at work once with "Please resign" in the subject line

I thought it was a bit harsh, considering that all i needed to do was amend an expense report and sign it again. :-O

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

baha

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by suckmyditka on Jan 4, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

and i was taling about mr Charmin Soft Olsen

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by suckmyditka on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

id rather have a 5th rd pick than olsen

and we got a 3rd rounder for him. more than happy

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

he was a pass catching TE who was a matchup problem

Took another receiving threat away from Jay, I think they look in the draft for a pass-catching TE

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Really? Then why has he been average in Carolina if he was so good. He isn't a matchup problem cuz he constantly get taken down and abused by smaller DB's.

They don’t call him soft for nothing. He’s an overrated TE and that’s all he is. He’s serviceable but nothing to be sad about losing.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

and Kellen Davis was any better??

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

As blocker, yes, he also caught as many TDs as Olsen did last year.

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by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

According to Lovie

yes…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Davis was pretty good this year

He helped out on blocking on a team that really needed it. And let’s not forget that Greg Olsen had 400 receiving yards in 2010… Davis isn’t the receiver Olsen is, but it’s really not that big a dropoff imo.

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Right, you're only a matchup problem if you're good

Just give me a stud WR first round. Green, Julio Jones, Dez, Maclin, Harvin, Nicks, Britt, even DHB kinda … that’s a huge hit ratio lately… if Blackmon and Floyd follow suit that changes the offense.

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did Jeffrey have such a bad season?

I didn’t watch a gamecocks game this year. Just a terrible QB maybe?

FWIW Jeffrey’s espn scouting report looks amazing. “Considered to be one of the hardest working players on South Carolina team … Willing to pay the price … Coaches have nothing but positive things to say about Jeffrey’s character and intangibles … Has long arms and big, strong hands … Engulfs the football … Shows good natural hand-eye coordination and focus … Not fazed by defenders around him and makes tough catches in traffic look easy.”

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

SC had QB problems all season long. There wasn't anyone to get him the ball.

Garcia was an undisciplined douche and the backup QB wasn’t as good. Plus they’re a run-heavy team and stayed a run-heavy team when they lost Marcus Lattimore. When he’s actually thrown to he makes plays. Alfonzo Denard isn’t a terrible CB, that’s why he’s got a mid 1st round grade, but Jeffrey just torched him on only 4 receptions for 148 yards and a TD.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm on board

Floyd looked good this year, but I just read he’s had knee issues, broke his collarbone, two public drinking charges. Comparatively, Jeffrey’s scouting report is about as clean and positive as I’ve seen. I’d seen highlights of him, but there are a few youtube videos of entire game performances. I see a little Larry Fitzgerald in him in that he’s not super quick, but he is so good at creating space with his body, and he just snatches the ball out of the air. Seems like a great fit.

by YaoPau on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah his biggest knock is that he isn't a burner.

But the guy knows the position, how to use his size, short area quickness, hands and athleticism to make plays. At the end of the day, that’s a good receiver’s bread and butter not so much his elite speed IMO.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

how about a TE that can block

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

yep should help, needed a new approach to that problem

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly what I thought would happen

It’s ok cause Olsen really isn’t that great.

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

now we need a TE w/ that skill set, I understand your point

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

Lets trade a third rounder for him.

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by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

no thank you

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So wait,...

…it just occurred to me. The draft – you know in April – we might actually pick talent in the first round (talent that is not already injured)!?!? And we may actually use the draft to fill the needs of the team (perhaps on offense)!?!?

Find out what the other team wants to do. Then take it away from them.
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by NormalFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

yeah secondary needs help, wouldn't be a bad move

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"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

conte looks good but wright is too shaky and injury prone

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Conte looks like a good tackler he's not really a hard hitting safety that

makes you think about catching the ball down the middle. They need someone to put some fear in people.

by BloodHorn on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like a safety that can tackle.

Too many attempts to crush someone leading to YAC because of a wiffed tackle.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm all for best available player

So many needs, where do we start??

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by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM CST reply actions  

a middle of the round pick in the 1st round could be used to find some impact linebackers if Briggs does not get a new contract and maybe some other defensive pieces. Highly doubt Blackmon will be available he’s a beast

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

You could get a great defensive end there too.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

ye but over the years you see teams find starting DE’s in the later rounds and tbh not worth it on a DE unless he the future julius peppers or pierre-paul

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is what I'm hoping they can draft, we need two awesome DEs for the defense to remain dominant.

Our interior line is solid and deep and a monstrous pass rush will help our aging back seven tremendously.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

damn he just called jaron gilbert out lol

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

offense needs more help than the D though

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

They have enough youth, what they need are excellent free agents.

Especially at WR, and this is a fantastic year to snag one.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

yep V.Jackson, Bowe, Colston

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

we have a lot of options, agree on colston though

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd be cool with any, but Colston and Bowe might be more cost effective and consistent than VJax.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Colston possibly because they have to re-sign Brees

would probably let Colston walk to save money

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Briggs has 2 years left on his deal, there are other needs

Need big time help at WR or OL, preferably LT

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Then

jmarcus webb could treat a preseason game like a regular season game…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

the secondary needs a lot of help

I think we find the #2 CB in FA, preferably Carr or Grimes

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

We should start by drafting guys for the position that they already play.

I’m tired of this pick a guy and move him somewhere else. That leaves us waiting for some possible future development on a pick we need to perform now. Why not just pick a player that is ready to go from the first day?

Find out what the other team wants to do. Then take it away from them.
-George Halas

by NormalFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

absolutely right

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

ZachZaidman Zach Zaidman
I’m not sure anyone inside or outside Halas Hall could have anticipated Jay Cutler’s broken thumb would lead to so much change

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

if anything it exsposed Angelos picks.

Jay Cutler covers up a ton of things. Like the offensive line.

by BloodHorn on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

caleb hanie

agrees with this…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope that boy saved some of his NFL paychecks, cause he ain't getting any more of them.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. The Thumb was the catalyst.

While we’re at it, let’s install FieldTurf at Soldier so we can keep Knox on his feet and keep Cutler from having to tackle defenders.
:D

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Lol slow down, let's not crowd the pan

Asking for a new field right now might be like rubbing the genie’s lamp and then wishing for more wishes.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm just giddy

I have to have fun now while we can still imagine abstract competent an talented GM & OC & Qb coach.

As soon as they really get named, we’ll see all the warts. Darn High Def anyway.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Dez Clark on The Score shortly

about how it’s like to play for Martz, should be interesting.

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

Does that man have a verbal filter of any kind?

Prepare for fallout.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

im getting that feeling too idk why

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I think its important that people remember Dez Clark has had very little to do with either the 2010 or 2011 Bears.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

He’s just speaking his mind, doesn’t say anything negative about the Bears organization really.

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I wish i had paid more attention to Tice as Vikings head coach

I do remember that the inappropriate Drink and Grope Boating Party was under his tenure, as were a couple of other minor scandals. People said he didn’t instill discipline, but I didn’t know if they knew what they were talking about or not.

I know that with the bears last year he said something like, “Some guys have innate drive and some don’t. I can’t make a guy be an a**hole if he’s not.” But he meant it as “I can’t make him a mean and effective SOB if he’s not that way already.” Not sure that sounds like leadership, either in his choice of metaphors or his philosophy…

Anybody see evidence of his strategic abilities?

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM CST reply actions  

BradBiggs Brad Biggs
Lovie: "We have an excellent core in place. I look forward to working with a new GM to bring a championship to Chicago."

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Translation: Don't fire me, new GM. I'll be good.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 3, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

true

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Best news since the Chargers game

… too bad Norv Turner isn’t available. I’m just glad to be rid of both MM/JA

by BeachBubbaTex on Jan 3, 2012 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

Is it me or

does phillips look like he is going to cry?….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 3:59 PM CST reply actions  

yeah he does!

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

wait...what?

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

for now*

once they get replacement, shouldn’t be long

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

yea

I mean SOMEONE has to do it for the time being.

by TR MacReady on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching the presser

they aren’t promoting Ruskell, he’ll head up talent evaluation at this time while there is no GM.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks

no video streaming at work.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

no search firm either

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Not eliminating anyone

no fixed number of candidates, no idea how many people can be interviewed now with teams in the playoffs

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

hopefully it's someone from front offices of PIT, NE or GB

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Prefer Pit or GB

Think the Pats have fallen off a bit, but GB and the Steelers are consistently good.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

oh no

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

What?

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

No! Shame on you!

Bad dog! I would rub your nose in your keyboard if i could find you.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Phillips

- Needed to keep pace with division rivals

- goal is to win title

- like foundation of team

- Lovie WILL stay HC

- Phillips will lead GM search

- GM will have to work with Lovie

- No time table for hiring new GM

- keys to new GM hire: talent evaluation, ability / chemistry to work with Lovie, and clear strategy to win title

- Tim ruskell will be acting GM

- Made decision to fire Angelo yesterday

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Nice recap

as always

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, considering that Ruskell will only be the interm GM

I don’t have a major issue with it, especially since it was announced a new GM will be hired not named Ruskell.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

right, I don't get it either

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

That’s how it is in the business world too. Sucks to have responsibility to right the ship if you are stuck with the same guys who “wronged” it to begin with.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe because they are doing so out of respect for the players' wishes

They feel the team is not far away from contending once again, and this could also be seen as a “win or else” scenario on Lovie Smith.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

And what happened?

11-5 NFFCG in 2010. Coaching is one thing, injuries are completely unavoidable, though.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yes, couldn't agree more

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Lovie Smith wasn't incharge of personell, though

He has had a ton of crap to deal with in the OL, WR, and CB position. You can’t polish every turd into diamonds.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

he does have input though

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

but one thing Lovie is good at is polishing turds

and that is mostly what JA gave him.
that he took this crew as far as he did is testimony itself.

by ChicagoBearOfAnaheim on Jan 3, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

More

- Lovie will hire OC with out GM his choice

- Lovie is right HC for team Like his staff in place

- Needed to close talent gap with in divison

- coaches will want to work with Lovie they are not worried about people not wanting to come like in 09

- Talking to people internally and come up with GM candidates

- Depends on any candidates on play off teams when GM can be hired

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i dont like Lovie picking OC

The GM cant get his HC and now wont be able to bring in his OC

by TR MacReady on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

let's hope former STL coaches aren't being considered

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Reverse is worse

GM picks the OC and HC doesn’t…now the HC is stuck with someone else’s OC pick, probably with a backdoor handshake that said OC gets your job the following year if you screw up…Players know it, coaches know it, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy… HC SHOULD pick his OC.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

i see what your saying

but if they win doesnt matter and if they lose sure the new oc should be considered if he does a great job. the players know lovie is on the hot seat.

by TR MacReady on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

More

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

ops lol

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems like the GM is just a middle manager in the bears org

I’d like to see Phillips take over so that he has actual respnsibility. These baord-level hires seem totally insulated from the consequences of their hires.

by Sound_Automatic on Jan 4, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Phillips is a weanie, just sayin'

cuz he didn’t say anything at all.

Being a meatball not only makes me delicious, but it also makes me all warm inside.

by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions  

yeah "every year" is a must-win year" ??

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

See ya!

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions  

lolz

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I want a t-shirt like that!

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Click on the picture link

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks a lot! That's awesome

You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka

by DutchBear on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Decision to fire Jerry

made before the Polian firing, so that’s not a direct result.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions  

Possibly

But just stating that Ted is saying.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Looks like Bill Polian could be their guy. He is the one guy that comes to mind that could “break the bank”.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure they said...

money wasn’t an object in their search or in their decision to let JA go. I could be wrong though

E.F.K.

by DaBearBus on Jan 3, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Only restriction for any GM

is that Lovie remain HC for 2012

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

yeah can't believe they wouldn't let the new GM hire his own coach

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get it, but Lovie can do no wrong in the McCaskey's eyes.

Maybe there’s some amazing other side to him that we don’t see on field.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Is it really that horrible that a GM would have to work with Lovie?

He’s possibly the least incendiary person in the NFL and has the respect of his players. Why risk a new coach having to earn all that in a Super Bowl or bust year?

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions  

More

- Lovie decision to not bring martz back

- Keeps on harping on closing talent gap with in division

- polian firing had no impact on Angelo firing

- Lovie knows have to win every year

- Only been to playoffs once in five years knows has to win

- GM will be restricted to keeping lovie for 2012 No mention of after that though

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

Tom Ricketts created a whole new analytical study to find his new baseball executives.

The Bears are flying on the seat of their pants.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Horrible press conference. Some things never change.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

yeah he didn't really say anything

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

No preparation to answer questions, and no preparation to plan moving forward.

They just fire a guy, and then go… OK we need to interview somebody. LOL. Idiots.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

apparently lovie didnt agree wih martz and told him to hit the road..damn lovie got balls

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Lol

Cutler had a say in the hiring of Martz. You better believe the franchise QB will pretty much choose his next OC.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

He sat down with him for hours

and talked scheme, patterns, strategy, etc.

"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct

by propheteer on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

In 2010 days before Martz was hired, Jay Cutler had dinner and a discussion with Mike Martz

Martz was there to buy Cutler into the system. If Cutler had a disagreement, Martz would not have been hired.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

this……….Lovie wanted martz from beginning….Cutler pushed for Bates and Angelo wanted clements or chudzinki according to beat writers in 09…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't Lovie's call at the time, though

It was only because Cutler gave his endorsement to Martz that Jerry permitted the move. Otherwise, it would have been Mike Tice.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Complete hearsay.

The only fact is Martz and Cutler did meet, and Lovie Smith did hire Mike Martz, after hiring Mike Tice to be O-Line Coach, and that Bates turned the Bears down, and the Packers denied us the right to talk to Clements.

Had Cutler not loved Martz (and I don’t think he did) I don’t think it got us someone else, because there was no one else.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

It was Lovie's call man. If it weren't why didn't Chudzinski or Bates get hired?

Why did the guy Lovie wanted get hired? Cutler had no option at that point. If his opinion was all that mattered why wasn’t Bates hired? Why didn’t they go after him?

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Bates declined.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

because he was afraid of being one and done….ironic or something….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes

main reason why they didnt even want to interview because they thought Bears was one and done situation….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Chudzinski had a similar sentiment.

"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice

by badsamaritan on Jan 3, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

More

- same structure will be in place Lovie > GM > phillips > owner

- Not right to mention specific candidates

- Lovie NOT going anywhere

- His decision to fire Angelo

- Phillips will make hire but GM candidates will talk to George

- Danced around Cutler helping hire on OC

- Want Forte to sign long term

- Lovie martz meet and had differences so parted ways

- No specific incidents played a role in firing of Angelo (ie hurd incident)

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:17 PM CST reply actions  

George to the podium

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

This is Ted's team. Makes me wanna puke.

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

George a much better speaker than Ted

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

and actually seems to understand the game of football.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

All he did was cover for his stupid bosses and coaches. Family run businesses frequently act so stupidly.

by Sound_Automatic on Jan 4, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

hi everybody

am i welcomed back or should i away?

by chiguy8506 on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM CST reply actions  

I'm actually getting a little upset

that all the reporters keep asking about money.

The McCaskeys will pay. Christ, get over it.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM CST reply actions  

listen on the score

670thescore.com

"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)

Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)

by SackMan on Jan 3, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

George asked if he wants a role like Jerry Jones has:

“No. And that should come as a relief to Bears fans everywhere.”

I like him.

by Virto on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM CST reply actions  

George McCaskey

- My job was to work with phillips

- phillips consulted me and made the decision and had family (rest of owners) backing

- ownership is key to hiring gm ceo and HC

- owenership had phillips backing but phillips thought GM had to change but Lovie should stay

- Money had no baring on decision

- Will pay committed to getting right people to the right jobs then letting them do their jobs

- want to compete in 2012 rivals finished ahead of the Bears

(NOTE McCaskey talks in circles IMO but eh)

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:25 PM CST reply actions  

has to talk in circles

reporters ask the same question 18 different ways….

“will money be a factor?”
“Will paying Angelo inhibit the search?”
“will you be willing to pay for quality?”
“How much of a limiting factor will money be?”
“Yo, got cash?”

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

This is

true…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

More

- Has talked to other sports owners in Chicago (ricketts, reinsdorf) and other NFL owners (jerry jones)

- Phillips will lead and conduct the search

- Has already rehired the same firm that helped him hire Angelo last time they looked for a GM

- Virginia supports phillips

- Committed to bringing title to Chicago

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

no search firm

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Correct

meant to put a NOTE in there saying one was a JOKE note….My bad….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

I try….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Just heard the guys on the radio

Didn’t sound too appeasing to hear them say “George’s vision…is like Ted Phillips’ vision”

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Why because they

need glasses? …..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

No sorry was

a joke meant to put a note in there saying find the joke note…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

This is great news

Too bad we already traded away Greg Olsen because he didn’t fit Martz’s system. Think Carolina would trade him back?

by hiflew on Jan 3, 2012 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

Dunno

I did pretty good with him in Madden…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

This post

should be put on top or something so everyone who wants Greg Olsen back can read it.

by Man G on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Also what if he played

for the saints….Would he be a saint then?…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

At what point did I say he was a saint

I never even said he was good. I just liked the guy and wish he could still be part of the Bears. I don’t think he is the next Tony Gonzalez by any means, but average is still much better than Kellen Davis honestly.

by hiflew on Jan 4, 2012 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I fear

…that nobody in the Bears organization is comfortable with hiring someone they suspect might be a little smarter than they are. So they perpetuate this culture of “just above average” with a little simmering paranoia in the background.

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

Happens when

you have like 20 owners a CEO, GM and a HC all making decisions….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

let's hope it's different this time

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

ah, the most expensive words in the English language

“This time, it’s going to be different”

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

George McCaskey certainly has this part right

“The top attribute we are looking for in a new GM, is talent evaluation.”

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM CST reply actions  

yeah the guy that was here the last 11 years couldn't get that right

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Well

phillips said that like 20 times when he spoke….But even my grandma could have said that…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Who would have thought???

For bears to finally get serious all we needed was Packers to be top team in the NFL.

by Man G on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

so true

the lions of all teams

by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

it's just amazing it took them this long to figure it out

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Not draft WRs 1st all the time?

WE FIGURED IT OUT!!!

"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"

by T.Moore on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Now..How do we get rid of Phillips???

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

In the Conservatory with the Lead Pipe

Jay Cutler is our quarterback, baby! Please pass the nitroglycerin tablets.

by juperee on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Pipebomb?

"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"

by T.Moore on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Bill Polian as team president???

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM CST reply actions  

No

phillips is team president…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

meant to replace Phillips sorry

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

same here

"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson

by walterfan34 on Jan 3, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yip Yip

"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"

by T.Moore on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

You have to go one way or the other.

You can have a head coach with a lot of power but has to hold the responsibility. The problem here is that nobody is letting him do his thing and then hold him accountable. Too many other egos who are meddling and then taking the fall. Let Lovie do his thing and if it doesn’t work then you have a clear picture.

by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jan 3, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Something else to think

I swear this is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone high up in Chicago talk about a “talent gap”.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

Watch out! Kev's got a facebook!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

Did you

Like him?…..

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

"There will be no restrictions placed on the new GM...

…except he has to keep Lovie, and Lovie gets to choose his OC".

So we need to find a new GM who is a great talent evaluator but does’t mind being castrated as soon as he walks in the door.

Lovie Smith is a good, not great coach. I am fine with keeping him if the new GM thinks he’d be the best person for the job. But to restrict the GM search to those who want to keep Lovie and his coaching staff seems short-sighted. The GM hires the coach, not the other way around.

by tomas21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

Ya

Score ripping on this right now…..Plus how mccaskey handled PC….They didnt like how George backed off and pretty much said its all phillips baby….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah cuz it's dumb to force Lovie on the next GM.

I honestly think it’s because they don’t want to pay Lovie as well. They already have to pay Angelo the remaining money on his salary so they don’t want to do the same with Lovie. Why else would keeping him be the one restriction?

by frenchbears113 on Jan 3, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

for 2012

He said for 2012…Meaning no coach change this year; of course Lovie gets to choose his OC…Why would a GM get to hire an OC a HC doesn’t want? That would be contentious, at best. Its standard fair for the HC to be able to pick his staff, and the OC is just another Assistant Coach on staff. In other news, the HC and OC will then pick a RB coach, WR coach, QB coach, some QC coaches, maybe a new trainer or three, and sign some ball boys without any hand holding from the GM.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

dan_bernstein Dan Bernstein
Seriously, make Lovie the nominal GM. He can make final draft/roster calls while others do busy-work. Simple, clean, cost-effective.

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 3, 2012 4:56 PM CST reply actions  

Might as well

if they aren’t going to let the new GM make the decision on the coach you might as well just make the coach the GM.

by tomas21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

We've speculated on the Lovie/Angelo thing

“Angelo gives Lovie crap” or “Lovie can’t develop” and “Which is it, or is it both?”…

That question will be answered very soon.

"just as Gary Fencik will go down as the last person to catch a Joe Namath pass, Wootton will be remembered in NFL history as the last player to sack Brett Favre." - John "Moon" Mullin

by Brendan Hess on Jan 3, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn....

Went to bed in the middle of the first “Bye Bye JA” thread….

Woke up to an overflow thread (no surprise) on JA and a Bye Bye Martz thread….

WHAT a DAY!!

by David in Maine on Jan 3, 2012 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

NotJohnnyKnox NotJohnnyKnox
The new Offensive Coordinator better not call me Isaac Bruce. Bout ta kill Martz every day that PoS.
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by David in Maine on Jan 3, 2012 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

Philosophical Differences?

Lovie is an Nietzsche existentialist but Martz is a transcendental idealist?

by JFCubFan on Jan 3, 2012 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

So Cubs and Bears both getting new management

Things are looking up in Chicago?

missing number 6

by Jessica312 on Jan 4, 2012 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

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