Source: Chicago the one job Jeff Fisher has always wanted
This is a bit of a stretch, but Albert Breer actually makes some connections here that could make sense. Imagine if Ted Phillips were able to lure Bill Polian to Chicago as the new General manager. Breer suggests that the stars could possibly align that would lead to Lovie Smith being ousted, and Jeff Fisher coming on board.
Long shot, right? The McCaskeys have always seemed to believe in Lovie Smith, and it may be a tough task judging his development of players if Jerry Angelo was indeed guilty of giving Smith a bad hand to begin with. The team seems to endorse Smith, but Breer says that a hot shot GM like Polian might just come in and give old Lovie the boot, especially considering Jeff Fisher being currently unemployed.
Fisher played safety for the Bears (1981-85), has maintained a relationship with ownership and, as a bonus, happens to like the team's quarterback, Jay Cutler, quite a bit. Cutler and former Titans offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger, who passed away in September, worked together in Denver in 2006 and '07 and were very close. And the Titans were split over Matt Leinart and Vince Young in 2006, with Bud Adams pulling rank and taking Young, and passed on Cutler, who went to college in the Titans' backyard at Vandervbilt. So Fisher's aware of the player Cutler's become.
The club has said Lovie Smith will remain the coach for 2012, and he deserves a mulligan for 2011, having lost Cutler and Matt Forte for the stretch run. If a younger executive type, such as Eric DeCosta or Les Snead comes in, then the coaching situation likely won't change. But if the Bears swing for the fences with a Bill Polian type, it's hard to rule anything out. And Polian and Fisher are close, having competed in the AFC South for a number of years.
The bottom line: Fisher will keep an eye on Halas Hall. As one source with knowledge of his thinking said, "That's the one he's always wanted."
Interesting. Stay tuned...
80 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
No to Jeff Fisher. A friend that has closely followed the Titans said he was vastly overrated and known petty disagreements with players.
Like w/ Vince Young?
I kinda like the idea, he’s not that bad is he?
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
It was also due to the handling of players and their playing time and such, if I can recall. He wasn't that highly thought of.
It also appears he has had disagreements with management that don’t relate to the VY issue. Those issues led to his firing.
...after 16 years or so
maybe he had diagreements with players and management
maybe players and management had disagreements with him
but you don’t the coach the same team for over a decade without something being right, whatever it is, it worked (and brought them about a yard from a Super Bowl vctory)
If the Bears get a new HC I don't want it to be with the justification "Well, there must be something right."
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
I guess stick w/ Lovie...
But if somebody did come in and make a change, we could end up with someone a lot worse than Fisher, too. I’ve seen it happen!
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
i'm not saying get a new HC
i feel lovie aint a problem
fisher is not a bad coach. neither is lovie.
given the respect lovie gets from the Bears players, it’s in the org’s best interests to keep him
I hope this doesnt happen.
I dont want polian either
if Jerry Angelo was indeed guilty of giving Smith a bad hand to begin with.
Is there even any doubt? I’m not as anti-JA as some but it seems pretty obvious he missed on more draft picks than the average GM.
idk
im not as anti lovie as some and i like that he is still but i have a feeling lovie played a large role in some of those picks. but to be clear i thought angelo was a very bad gm
how is Fisher an upgrade over Lovie?
He’s not.
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
He's a downgrade.
People love former Bears though and coaches with " fire and passion", even if they’re worse than what we currently have. In fact he’s taken his teams to the playoffs less than Lovie has, and hasn’t appeared in the playoffs since 2008, and the last time he won a playoff game was in 2003.
Jeff Fischer:
142-120-0 (Regular season)
5-6 (Postseason)
147-126-0 (Overall)
1 Superbowl Appearance (Lost in 1999)
E.F.K.
This
Don’t make a change based on name and seemingly a lateral move. Fisher has a good history, but I can’t see him being any better than Lovie. Probably worse because of the fall out coming from the team after Smith being ousted.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
i agree
on the lateral move part. Fisher’s win% is .542 and Lovie’s is .555 and both have one superbowl loss.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
My list
1.Bill Cowher
2.Lovie Smith (1 more year)
3.Jack Del Rio
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Cowher's overrated
He can coach a winner, but his teams were classic underachievers in the playoffs until he was gifted the Big One in perhaps the worst game (definitely the worst-refereed game) in NFL history, Super Bowl XL. If we’d consider a coach that simply got to hang around long enough to win it, we may as well stick with Lovie.
And I have almost the same opinion of Tony Dungy.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 3, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Super Bowl XL
Was sooooo fixed…Seattle was screwed there
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Cowher
i understand why some ppl like him. he screams alot on the sideline and won one superbowl in like 15 yrs.
but rio??? why
i think he is a solid coach
and his team peaked a bit prematurely. When they locked up Garrard they should have made another player push but went backwards because of the QB and recievers that also failed to make the next step (a big reason why I scoffed at the Sims-Walker rumors.) Garrard fell apart and the team seemed to have dried up in talent. I think with the right GM he could succeed. Likewise, I think the same of Lovie and since he has been here and has had the defense playing tough, with the right GM he gets the edge over Del Rio.
Bill Cowher had the Steelers playing elite defense and I think Tomlin is still reaping those rewards. I think its a very similar situation with Dungy and Gruden. Dungy gets the Bucs playing at a high level gets fired and next year Gruden rides the team into the playoffs.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I'll pass on this
I’m sure Fisher’s a good guy but I’m not sure how this would be anything but a lateral move at best.
Whose job am I supposed to call for now?
this
Where the white women at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M
by parkernutws05 on Jan 3, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
I want a mustachioed screamer
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 3, 2012 6:52 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
turms?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Well, there was this Greek girl I knew, back in the day.
by BigGeorgeTX on Jan 4, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHA
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
Jeff Fisher will always be seen as a good HC to my eyes
But, at this point, I honestly don’t think Jeff Fisher would have more of an impact than Lovie Smith as the HC. Now Jeff Fisher can certainly be viewed as a much better evaluator of talent, but the game really caught up with Fisher’s ways in his last few years as a HC. And when you’re dealing with a mostly veteran team such as the Chicago Bears, changing the HC position can lead to disaster.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 3, 2012 7:25 PM CST reply actions
better evaluator of talent aye?
Vince Young huh?
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
I seem to remember an owner being involved with that.
Some sort of weird Texas to Tennessee connection there.
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
What is the obsession with Fisher?
Jeff Fisher is not a good coach, he’s had what 1 or 2 seasons above .500 in the past decade or so? He has a worst winning percentage than Lovie, his teams underperform, and he constantly clashes with players. All I can tell is he has the “scowl” on the sideline like meathead fans want, and he gets along with the Media so they don’t criticize him. But Fisher is highly overrated. If we are getting anyone outside of bill cower, then its pointless. The team captians like Lovie alot and have grumbled every time theres been talk of getting rid of him multiple free agents (like Peppers) have cited Lovie as on of the big reasons they wanted to come to the Bears.
same reasons
as cowher and god know why del rio
Fisher has had something like four. Two 13-3 seasons, an 11-5 and 10-6. Mind you that he has had 2 in past 8 years.
Just to list the seasons since the Super Bowl app.:
’00 13-3
’01 7-9
’02 11-5
’03 12-4
’04 5-11
’05 4-12
’06 8-8
’07 10-6
’08 13-3
’09 8-8
’10 6-10
what's the love affair with Cowher?!?
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
Now that Lovie has a chance to prove he was realy being given bad hands
I don’t see any interest in taking any coach currently available. It’s not like any of them are clear upgrades over Lovie.
As for Polian… he’s a good executive, but after building two of the most impressive franchises in the AFC in the past 25 years and doing a really good job with the Panthers, it’s bothering me a bit that he has only one SB ring to show for, won against a team that is currently facing some front-office trouble after failing to capitalize on that season. Is he REALLY the answer?
I think
Fisher is just like Lovie, a solid coach.
I am ok with Lovie as a coach. I don’t like the idea of bringing in a GM and not letting him decide whether Lovie is the best man for the job. I’d be perfectly fine with him deciding to keep Lovie. But that is the GM’s decision, not Ted Phillips or Virgina McCaskey’s. What the flip does Ted Phillips know about who the coach should be? Why does he think he knows better than the GM? It pisses me off.
Back to getting rid of Lovie. If we do, I want him replaced by an innovator. Jeff Fisher isn’t that, he’s just another solid NFL coach, like Lovie.
Does Fisher have to be head coach?
How about assistant GM and head of player development / scouting or something like that? I would think Fisher has been a coach long enough and is ready to take the next step?
"And furthermore, I think Carthage must be destroyed."
I'm not sure if he has any aspirations to be
a Front Office type…. he loves coaching and that’s why he’s now interviewing for HC positions
by David in Maine on Jan 3, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
No to both
Polian has been downright terrible lately, and with the Colts recent collapse I’d say almost worse than JA.
Fisher is just another retread that wants to get back in the game, but I don’t believe he would be the upgrade the Bears are looking for. Definitely not a better leader than Lovie.
As far as an OC goes, the Bears deserve a fresh, creative mind to launch Cutler and company forward. Someone who can help evaluate and develop talent on offense. This is a passing league; in order to win a title they have to outscore teams like the Saints, Packers, Falcons, Steelers, Pats, and to a lesser extent the Lions.
Get a real playmaker at WR and a trusted LT!
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
When have the Bears hired
a coach with previous NFL Head Coaching experience?
I doubt that the Bears will hire anyone who has Head Coaching experience in the NFL.
Hire Him ASAP
This is perfect line-up of the football stars. Send Smith packing. Who really cares what the players think? Heck, they get paid to play. I’m sure they’d like to win as well. Smith has had far too many mulligans. This season was just another free pass for him. The Bears decline is his fault. So many coaches have been thrown under the bus yet the Bears seem to think Smith is above all of that. Either the owners think Smith is just a figurehead, and the asst. coaches doing the real work, or else they keep around for some other, unknown reason. Smith, I’m sure, will not get another head coaching job in the NFL once he leaves the Bears. Hire Fisher and the other guy. The Bears need a major overhaul.
I , for , one care what players think . Do you really think ....
…. any free agent wants to come to a team thats not good to them , disloyal to them & disloyal to the staff in general ? Not likely and I back Lovie 110% & if our new GM gets him some talent I’ll venture to say that he’ll show how good he really is .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
umm
why do you want to hire fisher again?
This is the most meatball head thing i have read all day
Wow
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
Umm well Ted Phillips has already stated these things ......
"The one restriction that will be placed on any candidate will be that Lovie Smith is our head coach for 2012," Phillips said.
Phillips also said a G.M. candidate who doesn’t think highly of quarterback Jay Cutler would be the wrong fit for this job.
"Our offense goes as far as Jay takes us," Phillips said. "He’s our franchise quarterback. We love what he brings to the table. And we’re going to do what it takes to make him successful. That’s our goal. . . . I don’t see bringing in a General Manager who doesn’t think that Jay Cutler can lead us to a championship game."
So our next GM has gots to keep Lovie & his staff & know that Jay is our QB . This seems to be going well thus far .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 3, 2012 10:31 PM CST reply actions
I thought it was Josh McDaniels?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 4, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
damn
youre right.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Jan 4, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
I read that as he has to keep Lovie for at least one year
I don’t think that would really be a sticking point for a high profile GM job.
Where the white women at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M
by parkernutws05 on Jan 4, 2012 4:01 AM CST up reply actions
dggcd
seems like another 2010 to me since once again lovie is a lame duck and I wouldnt be surprised several OCs will not want to thrust themselves in that situation. we got martz cuz he knew lovie and I’m not sure hiring friends will be commonplace now at halas hall
by beartopia on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
maybe
if martz wasnt such a stubborn sob about his offense he would still be here. if a guy wants a job he has to produce. if he comes in and kills it the job is his. you think if cutty and the new OC light the house on fire but bears miss playoffs for w/e reason the new gm or coach is gonna make the franchise qb learn ANOTHER offense? maybe.. but i’d bet he would stay
im sure alot of OCs wish they took that job in hindsight
even if he wasn't stubborn
the martzfence system seemed to be against Cutler. I want Cutler to roll out make the pass.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
oh i agree
im just saying this is the nfl. if you want guaranteed job security go do something else. idc who the guy is or if the GM likes him. if this guys kills it then he will stay. its simple as that.
HC
if we were to fire Lovie and get a replacement, we can safely say we are in rebuild mode.If that is the way foreward with this team, then let,s get someone who wants to keep our ID. i would be quite happy with the OC of the Saints. Lombardi would be the way to go.we would not be able to bring him in until they have won the Superbowl and maybe next year would be the right time to interview, after Smiths swansong season.Jeff Fisher on the otherhand would be a sideways move, going on win loss records.
bye bye Lovie and that damn cover 2
come on guys ,peppers , urlacher and briggs in an attacking style of defense, they would love that chance, cover 2 is a “D” that an elite QB will and have allways put up the big numbers. Its time for the big bad BEARS ….. Jeff Fisher head coach, Mike singletary defense, Jason Garret Offense ( if he gets canned) keep Tice at O line,Marrinelli D line, Leslie Frazer D backs, Toub stays speacial teams, and so on, Lets hurt some one , Monsters of the Midway …..bring back Greg O , go get Brandon Marshall, or plexico burris get rid of Roy Williams he seems uncordinated is his jock to tight, lol , love my BEARS regardless
My god, I'm so hungry for spaghetti right now.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
Editor at windycitygridiron.com | @Kev_WCG
by Kev H on Jan 4, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome to the offseason.
Weekend contributor and official editorial lackey/waitstaff at Windy City Gridiron
If a people-avoiding gaming hermit is on Twitter, I should be too. Follow me!
by Steven Schweickert on Jan 4, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions
PLOPETTA PICANTE!
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
~"Smile when u being attacked,laugh when they talking boutcha,wave when they hating on u and Pray when they leave u alone Somethings wrong!"~ Deion Sanders
At least FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER before you judge me fool
you forgot the sarcasm font
WCG's Resident Nickelback and Boy Band fan
Also rated Worst WCG Blogger by Dr. Steven Schweickert's extensive "Total BR" (Blogger Rating)
"Oh Dilfer, give me the strength...
to be as bad a WCG Contributor as you are an announcer/authority on anything. Peace be with you. " (JoetheBoss)
Wrong about that whole attacking thing . Maybe 5 or 6 years ago , but .....
…. now no . Urlacher & Briggs know this system inside & thats why both are so dang good even in their 30’s . Peppers is a fit in any system , but is special in our system because we rely on his skills as a pass rusher ( which are great ) to set the tone for our D . Our defense is fine ( minus young talent ) .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
No and NO
Fisher was coach in Nashville and Houston for how long? His team played in how many Super Bowls?
Polian is old and washed up. Guy ceded his authority to his son and then either failed or refused to recognize that his son was terrible at the job.
No thanks to both.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
I've never understood the love Jeff Fisher gets.....
He is no more successful than Lovie Smith, yet you’ll see people jump up and down just at the prospect of Smith’s firing and Fisher’s hiring. Fisher coached a lot of mediocre teams filled with above average talent and never won anything. Why does he continue to draw such a large “grass-is-greener” crowd? What has he done that makes him a better coach than Smith? If a change is in order, can we maybe see someone who’s had some actual success brought in?
It’s like the sudden movement out there for Brian Billick as offensive coordinator. Billick coached two good offensive seasons with Warren Moon in Minnesota. His offense fell apart after those first two seasons, and continued to suck in Baltimore. Why does this guy get so much offensive respect?
in•san•i•ty \in-ˈsa-nə-tē\ noun
1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.
by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 4, 2012 6:58 PM CST reply actions
i say stick with lovie till the well runs dry.
Urlacher suits the system and knows it along with Briggs and Tillman. Yeah i know what happened earlier this season but still.
this
except i dont really care about hc experience. just a bright, intelligent guy who is a winner and knows how to manage games and ppl
























