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2012 Chicago Bears Roster Turnover: Wide Receiver

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I've come to a realization watching the NFL Playoffs, and that is that the Chicago Bears have a horrendous group of receivers. I've always known they have limitations, but seeing the game changing talent making athletic play, after athletic play makes it obvious that the Bears wide-outs aren't capable of doing certain things. No one on the Bears roster can leap over a defender for a catch, out muscle a DB for the ball, hurdle a diving would be tackler, consistently run through arm tackles, do a sick flip into the end zone, or dive with the ball outstretched for the pylon. The best receiver on the roster, Earl Bennett, is a tough player with good hands that runs good routes, but at best he's a #3 slot guy.

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Out friends over at Pro Football Focus are allowing us access to their Premium Content to help break down the Bears roster. To be fair, the wide-outs were without Jay Cutler for 6 games, so that could have something to do with the not so hot PFF grades.

Johnny Knox - Signed through 2012 - Early reports about the Knox injury is that he should make a full recovery, but until he takes his next big hit the Bears won't know for sure how he'll respond mentally. That was a gruesome injury. I think after 3 years in the NFL, Knox is what he is, a vertical threat. Nothing more, nothing less. He added some bulk last off season, but it didn't translate to the field. He still wasn't fighting for the ball or walling off the defender with his body. Ideally Knox should be a situational player that comes in and stretches the field on occasion. He was 2nd in the NFL with a 19.7 average gain per reception.

PFF had Knox graded as the Bears best receiver in 2011. He was 40th overall with a positive 2.0, and on the year they only had him with one negative game, week 15 against the Seahawks they gave him a -1.6.

Earl Bennett - Signed through 2015 - Bennett signed his new deal in December, and it's not outlandish number one receiver money. He'll be around next year and he should be the slot. He does have some chemistry with Cutler and if he's allowed to work underneath with an honest to goodness #1 drawing attention on the field, I think Bennett could thrive.

PFF had him taking quite a tumble from last year. In 2010 his 6.3 grade placed him 18th, but in 2011 he fell down to 53rd with a, what PFF consider's neutral, -0.4. Even though Bennet is knocked for his lack of speed, he's a tough runner and his 5.6 yards after catch was tied for 22nd in the NFL.

Devin Hester - Signed through 2013 - I think we can all officially say the Devin Hester wide receiver experiment is over. He's been returning both kicks and punts of late and his offensive snaps have decreased. I'm interested to see hoe Mike Tice will utilize him. I'm OK with him getting reserve reps from the Z and from the slot, and I'd love to see him used more on the end around. Not necessarily getting the ball every time, but at least once per game the Bears should show the end around action.

Hester was way down at #112 according to PFF. His -11.9 grade may have been aided by his nagging injuries, but his 6.3 yards after catch led the Bears wide outs and was 13th in the league.

Roy Williams - free agent - The Bears can't re-sign Williams, can they? He didn't bring anything to the table that was advertised. His height didn't translate to any fade route jump balls, his savvy didn't allow for any back shoulder throws, and his experience in the Martz offense didn't lead to 70 receptions.

PFF had him at a -1.2 and ranked as the 56th receiver. His 7 drops tied for most on the Bears, and on 5 occasions a ball throw Roy's way was picked off. I would not be surprised if he's out of football next year.

Dane Sanzenbacher - Signed through 2013 - I like Dane Sanzenbacher. I think he may develop into a good slot receiver some day, but it might not be in Chicago. If the Bears sign a guy and draft a guy, it may push Dane off the roster. Especially if they don't carry as many wide outs as last year. He might have to excel on special teams ala Rashied Davis to justify sticking around.

According to PFF he only caught half the balls thrown his way and he also had 7 drops. He was the 101st graded receiver and he had a -7.8 overall grade. His 3 TD catches led all Bears WRs.

Max Komar - terms undisclosed - Komar was signed late in the season and he might be around next year to compete in camp. He saw 8 games of action in 2010 with the Cardinals.

Kevin Jurovich - terms undisclosed - He ended the year on the practice squad and that may be the highlight of his NFL career.

Jonathan Haggerty - terms undisclosed - Ditto...

2012 OUTLOOK - This position is in need of the biggest upgrade on the roster. Sign a free agent and draft a player in the first few rounds. No more 7th round projects and no more castoff retreads. Get the position some talent. The free agent crop of receivers is a deep one, Marques Colston (PFF grade of 17.3 good for 5th overall), Dwayne Bowe (10.5, 12th), Steve Johnson (6.0, 23rd), and Vincent Jackson (5.0, 28th) to name a few. And from the college ranks, the Bears should be able to grab someone that could step in and start in either the 1st or 2nd rounds.

Brandon Marshall and Jay Cutler have been talking it up via Twitter, but Marshall is under contract and with the Peyton Manning to Miami Dolphins rumors heating up, you'd think they would want to keep their #1 WR on the roster. I wouldn't expect the Bears to add a WR via trade.

Then again with a GM finally in place, a GM that may want to make a quick stamp on his team, I wouldn't rule out any possibility.

Here's the 2012 Chicago Bears Roster Turnover series so far;
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Would love

To sign Bowe. Then draft Sanu at either the 19 spot or trade back into the first/early second to grab him.

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by Acreman20 on Jan 31, 2012 10:23 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

Hmmm

Meant to read as either draft Sanu at 19, or grab say a Mike Adams and trade back into the first/early second for Sanu.

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by Acreman20 on Jan 31, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

The problem with waiting for the 2-4th rounds to pick up a wide receiver is that there may not be any of those real "difference maker" WRs left any more

We can certainly pick up a few excellent WRs in later rounds, but how many of those would be a real upgrade at the position? If we don’t get a No. 1 WR in FA, I don’t think we can risk not taking a Matthew Floyd or a Mohamed Sanu in the first round of the draft.
Of course, now that I’ve said that, I’m sure no other teams will be looking for wide receivers, so we’ll get the top 4 WRs in the draft in rounds 2-5, and pick up a solid LT in the first!

by pastor2b on Feb 1, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Emery is certainly going to get at least 1 big time player at WR this offseason

I’m all for any of the big 3 receivers in FA (V-Jax, Bowe, Colston), and I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in more talent from the early rounds of the draft. Regardless, WR is our top need, and it’s about damn time we brought in a GM who apparently understands that.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 31, 2012 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

Haha

Completely agree and would love any of those choice but isn’t that last quote so awesome to hear!! :D

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Fingers crossed.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I would prefer Bowe-Colston

In that order. I’m actually feeling like there’s something to look forward to here.

by JmShank on Jan 31, 2012 10:43 AM CST reply actions  

I don’t think FA is that deep at WR, most of the teams will hold on to their top talent. You have to PAY to get top talent, and from the signing of the new GM, and scouting " guru " makes it even harder for me to believe they will get a no1 WR in FA. I hope I’m wrong, but from the looks of it, we’ll end-up with a 2nd round WR at best, or maybe 5th and 6th, depends what safeties are left in 3rd along with CB.

by transylvanian bear on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

I think you're forgetting one guy.

But he won’t be back in the NFL. Ever. For any reason.

Also, isn’t Welker a FA this year?

by Doshi on Jan 31, 2012 11:09 AM CST reply actions  

no thanks

I think he’s good, but he’s getting older, heavily used and has Brady throwing to him

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Welker isn't leaving the Pats

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 31, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

First guy I thought you were talking about was......Jerry Rice.

Welker is amazing with Brady, but I doubt he would be amazing anywhere else. A better version of Branch.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

pretty sure he was talking about Chad Johnson (I still refuse to call him OchoCinco)

by Riv34 on Jan 31, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I know, but

with that type of emphasis my mind jumps to the best ever. Not….best punchline ever.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

FA wide receiver + 2nd round big WR

Go for offensive guard or best corner in the 1st, dtackle/corner and lb with the 3rd round picks and continue rounds 4 to 7 with talent on on the offensive and defensive line.what do you guys think.

by beartopia on Jan 31, 2012 11:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I think the bears can sign 2 Wrs in the free agent market and a Ol

If they would do that they could make the draft alot easier in each round by taking players they need.

by tazz34 on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM CST reply actions  

tice doesnt want veteran linemen

They are set in their ways I agree we need young talent too not getting a line from FA

by beartopia on Jan 31, 2012 11:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Ummmm Yeah that whole Manning to the .....

….. Fins ain’t lookin so good considering his career may be over . So Marshall coming here ain’t dead just yet .

As much as I hate to say this I get the feeling that Bowe & Colston will get hit with the dreaded tag as will Stevie Johnson & DeSean Jackson . That would leave Vinny Jackson ( who wants a bank breaker in terms of a contract ) , Reggie Wayne ( who’ll likely want too much money for his age ) , Robert Meachem ( not really a number 1 guy ) & Wes Welker ( yet again not a number 1 guy ) . So we may have to count on the draft to get our playmaker unless we make a deal for a reciever . Me I’d kinda like to see our round one pick get used on Mike Adams from Ohio State , but thats just me . Then in the latter rounds grab a player like Ruben Randell or Dwight Jones .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 31, 2012 11:21 AM CST reply actions  

What about garcon from indy i like meachem

I heard jackson wont get tagged cause philly pent to much money

by tazz34 on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I just can't see DeSean gettin away from Philly , nor Garcon from Indy .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Overrated

He’s too “boom or bust” for my liking….TWSS

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by T.Moore on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Desean

is the same player as Knox, but a bigger lockerroom headache.

by MrPants on Jan 31, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This is exactly wat i was thinking

The same type as Hester and Knox on top of being a huge headcase that is very inconsistent, has multiple concussions, and can’t seem to stay healthy all season.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

But to shore up

He is a gamechanger at points that punt return was damn impressive Vs. NYG, and he’s had some huge deep catches. if we were able to get a big WR and trade Knox or Hester for some picks and sign Jackson to a reasonable contract it wouldn’t be the worst thing every atleast he seems to catch the football unlike Hester.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, but it doesn't have to be Manning for Mashall to get his QB

Matt Flynn is likely to reunite with Philbin and sign with the Dolphins if you as me. If Peyton Manning goes anywhere and is able to play, I bet it will be a bidding war between the Jets and Redskins.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 31, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Have fun with Flynn without that GB offense

He just seemed to be opportunistic, had an awesome offense that can put up points, and played a banged up Detriot DB Corps that wasn’t that good healthy.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I have NO problem with another team paying a ransom for a guy who wasn't completed a full season

at least M. Cassel played the season with the Pats to give some background on him.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Yea

love the concept take away depth from a divisional opponent i just have a buddy whos a Chiefs fan and this just seems to stink of Cassel type situation but hey that’s what happens when teams are desperate for QBs.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

And btw

There is no way the Saints will tag Colston instead of Drew Brees. And if they manage to resign Brees, something tells me they will use the tag once again on Nicks and get at least 1 more good year out of him.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Brees has already stated that he'll take less ....

…. money to keep the team together . He just wants Colston &/or Nicks back with the team . The feeling I get is that he’ll have a contract & they’ll tag Colston & let Nicks walk .

<a href="http://prod.www.saints.clubs.nfl.com/news-and-events/article-1/Brees-My-No-1-Priority-is-Keeping-Our-Team-Together-/6c4eab39-2d13-4bdb-b4b8-cb090baba403" target="new">LINK TO BREES STORY

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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 31, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

So they're going to part ways with one of their best O-Lineman?

I don’t know, I just think the Saints would be better served keeping their O-Line in tact and draft a receiver in the 1st or 2nd round. But, if Nicks finds his way to Chicago and signs with the Bears…

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 31, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I won’t be crying any tears for the Saints. Now if Nicks signs with the Lions/Packers/Vikings I’ll be upset.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah... that's possible now

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 31, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Stevie Johnson

I know that people here are more supportive of Dwayne Bowe and Marques Colston, but I think there is a marjor factor being over looked: Age. Colston is 28, Bowe is 27, but Johnson is only 25. I would much rather give money to a younger player whose contract would end when he is 30 than to a player whose contract would end when he is 32 or 33.

by MrPants on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

Stevie

Don’t think Lovie cares to bring aboard any type of behavioral problem and SJ has been TO without the positive results on the field.

If my posts here don't make any sense just think what my tweets are like @cubsncards

by KyCubsFan on Jan 31, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd take Johnson over Colston

Maybe he’s a lesser talent, but you can build around a Cutler/Johnson/Forte trio. Get Colston, and you never know what you have… two microfracture surgeries is uncharted territory.

Besides, I remember playing fantasy football for years thinking we’d never see a fantasy-worthy WR emerge in Buffalo. Lee Evans couldn’t do it for four straight years, and that guy used to be a beast. Then Stevie did it in back-to-back years. There’s plenty of upside there imo.

by YaoPau on Jan 31, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Johnson just seems to be a 1hit wonder type

The whole celebrating crap with the plax bashing and then later dropping multiple clutch catches and an easy TD made me think he might not always have his head in the game but, to be honest don’t know enough about the guy and haven’t seen him alot.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

SJ

Blamed God for a dropped ball, had the Plax celebration, a few weeks later wrote Happy New Year on his undershirt and flashed the cameras with it.

I’m not going to diminish his talent but just don’t see the Bears bringing on a potential head case a la Ochocinco, TO.

One thing I enjoy watching with the Bears is no overzealous celebrations. Players aren’t jumping up and pointing 1st down every-time, acting like they won the game when they make a sack, etc. I just don’t see Lovie wanting a player that has this type of histrionics on the team.

If my posts here don't make any sense just think what my tweets are like @cubsncards

by KyCubsFan on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

What about RW pointing for a first down?

Granted it happened every other week, when he wasn’t able to avoid the Big Scary Flying Brown Thing, but it got annoying.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Rec'ed for truth

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

ya

when your leading TD receiver is Dane Sanzenbacher…the WR’s have no reason to do Endzone dances

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

The Plaz celebration was pure awesomeness.

That should be a credit for Johnson, not a drawback.

by oripunk3485 on Jan 31, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I liked it also

its just that if your gonna mock other people step up when ur number gets called.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I like a man with style.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Feb 1, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Except he's had 2 1000 yard seasons in Buffalo

negating any 1 hit wonder status…if someone comes out of Green Bay or New England or Indy with 1000 yard seasons, its general belief that Favre/Rodgers/Brady/Manning made them better then they really are…

Johnson had Ryan Fitzpatrick throwing to him

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean, not to completely dismiss Ryan Fitzpatrick...

The kid has survived more position battles than Rex Grossman…

But, okay, I just threw him under the buss.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

You failed to mention DeSean Jackson.

Also I see Johnny Knox as a poor mans Bernard Berrian

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

Honestly

I think Berrian was worse…

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by T.Moore on Jan 31, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not high on Jackson

and I only listed the FA’s to be that PFF had highly ranked… Jackson was way down the list

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 31, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

SMD has a man crush on Jackson.

considering his strong Jackson support in other threads.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I just don't understand the hate people got for him

He’s produced.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Not consistently OR against quality opponents.

I talking only about WR position. He’s a great Hester impersonator. If he does it for another 3 years.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

RUFKM?!?

Not consistently ? Look at his stats

He’s never had under 900 yards receiving and this year was due to A) the Eagles sucking and B) He only played in 15 games.

His other 900 season (961yds) was his rookie season where he only played in 15 games .

Against quality opponents ? Against SF this year he had 6 REc for 171yds

against the giants he had a combined 8rec for over 100 yards

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I already replied in a different forum.

but my argument boils down to…no back to back 100 yard games against real opposition. His SF game was his ONLY standout game this year, and MULTIPLE games he was held to a COUPLE catches for a pittance.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That's because he's a legit threat

He gets a lot of bracket and double coverage.

What Bears receiver got back to back 100 yard games?

Colston didn’t have any back to back 100 yard games either, and was held to 1 rec by Jacksonville and 3 rec by STL

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

When looking at the game logs...

Colston : Jax 1 Rec, 8 Yards - Win &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;NYG 3 Rec, 78 Yards – Win
StL 3, 50 Yards - Loss &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Car 5, 69 Yards – Win

Jackson : NYJ 2 Recs, 28 Yards - Win &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;CHI 2 Recs, 16 Yards – Loss
NYG 2 Recs, 30 Yards - Loss &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ATL 2 Recs, 21 Yards – Loss
@DAl 3 Recs, 31 Yards – Win

Jackson had two games over 100 yards, Colston had four
Colston had two 8 catch games, and five 7 catch: Jackson had three 6 catch games, two 5 catch games.

Jackson hasn’t shown he CAN be a #1 guy. Colston has. Jackson has amazing talent….but amazing talent does NOT ALWAYS translate to amazing success.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

I made SBNation drunk.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Essentially....

Jackson has limited in more games for fewer yards….It was worst 5 games for each, and how their team did.

Jackson limited to 2 catches four times for <31 yards each time, Colston has held to one catch once, two three catches, and a five catch for 8, 78, 50, 52 respectively

Disclosure: Jackson’s yardage for those games was : 28, 16, 30, 21

Colston’s team over that span was 3-1, Jackson’s 1-3.

The fifth worst game was Colston 5 cat, 69 yards….Jackson 3 catches for 31 yards.

I translated worst game by how many balls each receiver caught in each game.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

How many games has DeSean Jackson missed?

I’m pretty sure the Bears understand how important upgrading WR is this offseason. And it won’t take much to make me happy, I just want more talent.. A #1 type (whatever that is, but anything that even resembles that), somebody to at least compete with Knox for that second spot and Bennett in the slot sounds ok to me. That said, honestly speaking, I’d be disappointed if D-Jax is the best we can do.

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by Bearsh!tt!n on Jan 31, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

A guy who has 2 1k receiving seasons and never had a season under 900

is disappointing to you? You have your bar set pretty damn high then

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by suckmyditka on Feb 1, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Never more than 62 catches in a year.

And just 21 TD receptions for his career. Sure, talent wise, he’s an upgrade for the position. But honestly, and don’t take it personally, I just don’t like him. His stats and his production on the field are not my issues with him.

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by Bearsh!tt!n on Feb 1, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

haters will hate

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by suckmyditka on Feb 1, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't help it, dude is a punk.

I got no problem with you. You’re cool. I just don’t like players that repeatedly do really stupid things that hurt their own team. He is better than any receiver on the Bears right now. But I’ve just seen too many boneheaded plays from this guy over the course of his career. But all this hatin’ is nothing new for D-Jax, these criticisms predate his college years.

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by Bearsh!tt!n on Feb 2, 2012 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

We all have players that we just don't like

I just don’t like Johnny Knox. Or Peyton Manning.

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by suckmyditka on Feb 2, 2012 7:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I think your argument is missing a major point

Based on their ages, Colston is leaving his prime, while Johnson is entering his.

by MrPants on Feb 1, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Just throwing another name out there

Steve Smith from the Giants/Eagles. He’s two years removed from microfracture surgery now, just 26 years old, and he had an absolutely massive year in 2009. Most of his targets have come in the slot, but he’s been used elsewhere, especially with the Giants. He had a poor year in 2010, but there’s evidence he wasn’t fully recovered by the start of the season.

Microfracture surgery really isn’t a big deal anymore imo, at least in the short term. He should come with a really low price tag and could be an upgrade at #2.

by YaoPau on Jan 31, 2012 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

Eddie Royal is out there too

He’s only had the one big year, but it was his only year with Cutler. Remember he wasn’t the slot guy that year either… Stokley was. He started out great in 2010 before getting nicked up, and then he had a bad year this year with Tebow throwing passes. Just 25… I think he’s worth considering as a fallback option.

by YaoPau on Jan 31, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Eddie Royal?

Really?

Wow

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

We have enough #4 receivers on this team

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions  

No. He also had Brandon Marshall lining up across from him to take off some heat

What has he done since then? Nothing.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Through his first 11 games in 2010

he was on a 75 catch, 800 yard pace. Those numbers are as good as any Bears has had recently.

by YaoPau on Jan 31, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

He's no better than Knox Hester or Bennett

He’s basically the same

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

He's completely different from Knox and Hester

They’re deep threats, he’s a possession guy. And unlike Bennett, he’s had the most success outside the slot.

by YaoPau on Jan 31, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair,

Bennett hasn’t had a real WR lined up across him ever.

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Feb 1, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Smith is done

He’s too injury prone

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

He's too young to be totally written off...

Need another year really to give that pronouncement.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

that’s why the Giants let him walk. He’s done.

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's see after a real offseason of conditioning/medical

Peyton MIGHT have been ready to go this year if he wasn’t locked out of the Medical facilities for half a year.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning?

You mean the guy who may never play again?

i’m questioning your intelligence

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by suckmyditka on Jan 31, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

NO ONE knows yet.

Until next season is DONE, I’m saying it’s too early write guys off for the life.

Question my intelligence all you want, I’m not advocating Desean Jackson for #1 receiver spot.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

*their entire life

or write off their careers….take that how you wish.

Especially a 26 year old AND arguably the game’s best QB.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

nope you do

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by suckmyditka on Feb 1, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

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by ed_brown on Feb 1, 2012 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Bennett

I’d like to see his numbers from PFF, before and after the Cutler injury. I think it tells a vastly different story.

by Hoosier Glenn on Jan 31, 2012 12:06 PM CST reply actions  

Bennett only had two positively graded games on the year according to PFF

weeks 9 and 10… it’s gotta be the shoes…

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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

For $hits and giggles for anyone interested in the Johnathan Haggerty

According to Mangini, “He’s another guy that has an outstanding work ethic, is bright, very bright, and he gets it. He gets what a great opportunity this is and everyday day he’s going to come out and make a case for himself. There may be some days where he takes some steps back like the rest of the group, but we brought in a lot of rookies. We brought in a lot of guys. We have a lot of new people and you’ve got to pop off the screen. He popped and he popped and he popped and eventually you learn his name and you learn different things about him and watch him a little more closely.”

Haggerty is 6’1", 195, from SW Oklahoma State, and has been running with the second team offense. He wears jersey number 86 and has been smoothly catching a lot of passes while dropping very few.

Mangini seems genuinely excited about this rookie, who if you read my 53 man roster I predicted makes the team. “He’s gotten some more looks because of the good things that he’s done and I’m excited about what he’s done.” said Mangini. “Now it’s a function of what he can keep doing.”

Terry Pluto of The Plain Dealer also writes that the coaches have been extremely impressed with Haggerty.

Haggerty was a four-year starter and two-time All-Lone Star Conference selection. The Dallas Lincoln product caught 54 passes with a 13.9-yard average and six touchdowns in 2009.

That didn’t get the NFL’s attention – he wasn’t invited to the annual scouting combine – but his workout on campus did. He ran a 4.44 40-yard dash in front of 18 scouts on his pro day.

Now we get down to the numbers game. Where does he fit, on the active roster, or the practice squad?

If this kid looks as good in pads as he does in shorts, the Browns are going to have a difficult decision to make. Placing him on the practice squad leaves him vulnerable to every other NFL team who may find a wideout with 4.44 speed and good hands too irresistible to pass up.

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 31, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Certainly made me giggle

But, I think the Bears would be much better served with a productive playmaker, as Emery suggested in his press conference.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, but as much as I wanted to ignore this guy, you never know if you have another Victor Cruz out there.

Bears fans can hope right?

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe a flyer take on him.

He’ll be fighting with Dane and others for the last wideout position, providing Knox bounces back.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

now now

the only thing Roy did consistently good was be a excellent blocker, and was blocking on several of Forte’s big runs

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

why the heck did that go there...

anyway, that was a reply to your post below lol

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

aaahhh....I was wondering.

But if choosing between the windsock and RW……

I’m choosing the windsock.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

It does have a hole

to catch the big brown thing

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by ThorCo on Jan 31, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

More importantly

it’s not SCARED of the big flying brown thing.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That almost reads like it was from an article...

Got a link or anything?

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 31, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldnt be upset if they did bring REW back.

He wasnt great but he did make some good catches and is a good blocking receiver. I only see him as a player we should keep if we don’t happen to get a better receiver via draft or FA. If the Bears get a WR that can perform better, then by all means let Roy go.

by C-Razzle on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sorry

but the tackling dummy was a better blocker then Roy was.

an airport windsock could catch more balls then RW.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll disagree

I think blocking was the one thing REW did pretty well this season. However, I do think he’s done as a receiver.

by NorthSideBearsFan on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

REW did one thing well

he was a very good blocker

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by suckmyditka on Feb 1, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I use to think the bears had a bunch of number 2 receivers

Unfortunately it looks like a bunch of number 3 receivers. It seems like they need at least 2 FA or one big one and a high draft choice.

by TheMan1 on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

With FA approaching...

I know there will be movement and I hope the Bears will make good moves. I am wondering where there are positions of strength on the roster that could be used for a trade?

On offense I doubt we could give away most of our line. I don’t see much value behind the starters at TE, RB, WR, and we only have one FB.
On defense our safeties would not likely draw much interest. And again, I see little of value behind our starters at DE, DT, LB or CB.
Special Teams players do not generally hold much trade value.

Basically, do we have any areas of depth behind our starters? Steltz? Wright? J. Williams (the LB)? Bell?

And if there is no real trade value for our backups, then can we say we have acceptable depth…anywhere?

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by NormalFan on Jan 31, 2012 1:55 PM CST reply actions  

Nope.

That’s why Angelo can be considered a failure.

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by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Depth... sure...

Not all of it is tested though.

Safety is pretty deep. LB’s have depth, but none of it is proven whatsoever… DT depth exists. CB’s are light, DE’s are very light, WR’s are ‘deep’ but ‘shallow’, QB’s non-existent (but that’s similar throughout the league, unless we can acquire like, a jason campbell…), Bell exists, TE’s are pretty decent behind Spaeth and Davis… The OL has decent depth all around, but could use a bit more talent underneath…

Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...

by awfullyquiet on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

'deep but shallow'

Somehow, I understand perfectly what you mean.

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by Pete Dixon on Feb 1, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Depressing it is.

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by Acreman20 on Feb 1, 2012 9:02 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

OL coach?

Any ideas who they are interviewing or considering?

by homeequity on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

Bowe

Probably get the franchise tag. Same with V Jax. Best hope is Colston I think

by obanddoug on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

Don't know if this has been posted yet

But “Aaron Rodgers blasts some NFC Pro-Bowl teammates” heres the full quote "I was just surprised that some of the guys either didn’t want to play or when they were in there didn’t put any effort into it," Rodgers said in a visit with ESPN Milwaukee and Jason Wilde this afternoon. Not as bad as they made it out to be but, really rogers have u never watched the pro-bowl?

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

to add further

I agree with where he was coming from to be honest if they are going to charge people money and put pads on atleast put in some effort but, at the same time noone cares right now, no point to more risk than reward if any reward the whole process should just be trashed or changed. like multiple people have posted here just use the All-Pro teams or All-NBA team concept.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I've seen the WS type homefield suggestion

which seems like a good idea but then u have to host the game midseason and have a week of Pro-Bowl or something not to difficult to setup, and the skills competition sounds like a good idea too. they should just combine them both and have a week of the NBA, MLB or NHL week of All-star showcase that can be a week, and celebrate the fans and players.

by ChicagoStyle on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

You could always have the ProBowl

count towards next season. Since it doesn’t effect the Super Bowl, there’s no real need for a mid-season ProBowl.

Cacti are prickly.

by crackedcactus on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why the MLB way will never work for the probowl.

The MLB all-star game is played mid season first off and only has an outcome for the WS. There is also at least 1 player from every team in the league on the teams. It would be kind of hard to get a player from every team in the pro-bowl since some teams just do not have an outstanding talent. They would have to change the way pro bowlers are selected in order to do this. Take for instance this year. Say St. Louis was on their way to the superbowl. Not one player from the team was on the pro bowl team. How can you fault that team if the NFC lost the probowl and then they get punished for it? Doesn’t really work in baseball and it wont work in football. I just say you make an incentive where if you are selected to a probowl then your current team will have to adjust your salary for that year to reflect your awesomeness. Just a 1 year adjustment unless you are due for an extension or new contract. Give the guys some incentives. Make them play hard and if they don’t in the probowl don’t allow them back or put a block on them for a few years.

by jheun on Feb 1, 2012 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

A very detailed write up I found on Hogs Haven

Dwayne Bowe
Imagine opposing defensive backs having to deal with this along with Bennett and Forte in their backfield.

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by GriggsBriggs on Jan 31, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

I really want the Bears to go after Dwayne Bowe in FA

Fix the Offensive Line

by touchdown bears on Jan 31, 2012 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

we all do buddy

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