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"...where we create humility."

Several obvious candidates for Bears general manager Dan Pompei has a look at five with solid reputations who the Bears seem likely to pursue. Martz: 'It was just time for me to move on'

Pressure on Bears coach Biggs: Lovie Smith will feel the heat if his fourth offensive coordinator isn't successful immediately.

Conte eager to take next step in career Mayer: After last year's offseason program was cancelled due to the lockout, Chris Conte is excited about continuing his development this offseason at Halas Hall. NFL gives Peppers another half sack

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Clark has strong words about Bears coaches While on Wednesday's edition of Chicago Tribune Live, former Bears tight end had some interesting comments about issues with the coaching staff during his final season in 2010.

The Packer factor in Angelo's exit John Mullin says Jerry Angelo didn't lose his job because of how the Bears ended their season but instead because of the Christmas Day loss to the rival Packers. Jerry-speak: Memorable Angelo quotes

Bernstein: Just Name Lovie GM, Already You can’t simultaneously hire a real general manager and reaffirm the alpha-dog status of your head coach. Not possible.

Former Bears WR Hurd indicted on drug charges Former NFL wide receiver Sam Hurd was indicted Wednesday on federal drug conspiracy and possession charges.

Forte optimistic in wake of Angelo firing Forte, whose public desire for a new contract was one of the challenges facing Jerry Angelo all season, was optimistic he can get a long-term deal done in the wake of Angelo being fired as general manager.

How bad does the Greg Olsen trade look? Seifert: Martz committed the first cardinal sin by not building his scheme around the skills of his players. Angelo committed the second, not only by presiding over that mistake but compounding it by taking his eye off the horizon.

2012 NFL playoffs full of storylines, interesting stats, things to watch Musings, observations and the occasional insight as Don Banks breaks down the NFL's 12-team playoff field.

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Im Glad Dez Clark Stepped Up And Told The Truth As To Whats Really Going On

It was obvious that there was a disconnect between Lovie and Jerry and Martz, Jerry pushed for LeFevour and Hanie as backup developmental QBs, Martz didn’t like them and didn’t want Olsen and Clark for TEs so he pushed for Todd Collins, Tice kept arguing for a running game and Angelo kept trying to accommodate everybody with his drafts that largely went nowhere. It was only Cutler, Pep, Urlacher and Forte that kept the team together last season in 2010- the coaches were totally dysfunctional and it all finally blew up in their face this season.

Lovie had a big hand in bringing Martz in because they are buddies (just like he got rid of Ron Rivera and brought in his crony Bob Babich to be DC as well as getting Archulleta and Pace a few years back) and Im surprised he is still around, he is responsible for a lot of the mess that the team is in.

by Gaak on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, Its Super Bowl or bust for Lovie next year.

With a new GM coming in and only one year left on his contract, Lovie will be gone unless he takes us to the Super Bowl. Not to mention Urlacher,Briggs,Tillman,Idonije,Adams are all 30 plus, so I see a huge rebuilding phase starting after the 2012 season. Better start drafting well this year

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 5, 2012 7:52 AM CST reply actions  

I think he

has 2 years on his contract. And I doubt it’s Super Bowl or bust when the GM is told they have to want to work with Lovie to get the job.

by tomas21 on Jan 5, 2012 8:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, Lovie is signed through 2013...

Lovie is safe through the 2012 season….that’s how long a new GM has to “keep” him….

New GM would be able to fire Lovie after next season if he felt it warranted….

by David in Maine on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

That's potentially "8 quarters" of football.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Here we have a team who can't hire a decent OC because

poor talent base and instability of the management team.

They are desperate enough to use Lovies ties with Martz to coerce him into taking a job no one else wanted and then they refuse to give him what he needs to make his offense work.

Now they are in even worse shape since any decent OC will view Lovie as a lame duck coach and not want to sign on for a one and done deal.

Leaving Mike Tice, a offensive line coach heir apparent. Because there really is no other choice.

Appearently the only one to keep his wits about him was Lovie.

funny you should bring up Riveria, a no body LB coach that Lovie took under his wing and taught to be a DC only to have the same guy start flying all over the country applying for new jobs Riveria obviously wanted to be somewhere else and got his wish.

I can understand wanting to make another run at a championship with this core group of players and wanting to give Lovie another chance but it just seems doomed, and probably better to clean house now and let a new team see what they can do.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

Jerry Gave Martz Everything He Wanted

They got rid of Clark and Olsen and hired Collins, the Manatee, Chester Taylor and drafted Enderle.

I don’t know how you came up with the conclusion that they didn’t give him what he needed…

by Gaak on Jan 5, 2012 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know how you come up with your conclusions either

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Ed said what he "needed" not what he "wanted"

Wouldnt it be funny if we had another DE with the last name Salters!

by fortefan09 on Jan 5, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

It would seem he got what he wanted/needed Considering Martz asked for those players

He needed big TE’s they got rid of Olsen and picked up Spaeth. He needed an athletic line he got that. What he really needed was to adjust his playcalling which he fought tha whole time he was here

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by EmmCeee on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

righeous indignation how refreshing

What Martz needed was an offensive line and what he got was swiss cheese.

Here is one of the worst O-lines in the NFL learn to adjust your playcalling accordingly.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure

whether nobody wanted the OC job because it was a bad job, or because Lovie wanted Martz from the start, and only pretended in bring in other candidates to appease Angelo. The gyst is that Angelo was dead-set against Martz, and Lovie dug in his heels. Phillips told them to play nice and bring in some other candidates, but word got out that Lovie only wanted Martz so nobody would entertain the dog and pony show.

Maybe this time the search will go better. I kind of doubt it though. Lovie is again on something of a hot seat, and he now has a reputation for letting his OC take the fall when things don’t go his way. Outside of Cutler and Forte, we have pretty much nothing for an OC to work with on offense, and there is already a strong personality (Tice) who has the coach’s ear on how the offense should go. I don’t think this will be a particularly attractive opening, and my guess is Tice gets it because nobody better than him will consider it. Similar situation to when Marinelli had to take the DC job because they couldn’t find anyone better who would be willing to do it.

by tomas21 on Jan 5, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

except Marinelli was Lovie first choice for DC his first year but Hot Rod was not available.

the only coach that showed any interest in the OC position was Weis after he got fired from ND.

It is interesting that Dez Clark characterized Lovie as a coach that was getting more out of his players than you would expect from their talent level.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

There were like

3 other OC guys that either declined to interview at all or cancelled at took other jobs. Nobody wanted the OC job in 09 because they knew 1. It was a dog and pony show and Lovie was giving it to Martz, and 2. It was potentially a one and done situation.

It’s not quite as unappealing now, but close. It’s still a potential one-and-done situation, you would still be working for a coach who doesn’t hesitate to fire the OC when things don’t go well, and you still don’t have much to work with outside a disgruntled RB and a QB coming off thumb surgery on his throwing hand (who has had stormy relationships with many of his OCs and QB coaches).

by tomas21 on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

who in their right mind wouldnt fire the oc

if they were acting like martz? You think lovie is the only guy who gets rid of their OC. i

by TR MacReady on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

they knew Lovie was giving it to Martz

and they knew that how exactly?

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

We're basically back to where we were two years ago when we hired Martz

:(

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh

Except for the quarterback has taken eleventy billion sacks, got a concussion, and broke his thumb.

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by Kev H on Jan 5, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

not to mention all the head explosions here at WCG

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

this...

World needs to know about this.

by Man G on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

egads

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

We can say that Cutler has taken a few steps forward though, in a few different departments.

Maybe the adversity (new offenses, working with Mad Mike, injuries, constant pressure/sacks, playing with just bad receivers) is partly responsible.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

yep

But at least we know angelo won’t be here screwing up our drafts I’m still worried about the offense tho

by beartopia on Jan 5, 2012 9:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

*

Weren’t you against it the other day? Now you want to clean house, whose assumptions, are you assuming now? :-D

by transylvanian bear on Jan 5, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I think if you look it up you will see I wanted Jerry fired and a new GM

I like Lovie but a GM needs to be free to run the team and handcuffing him with a HC that he may or may not want is not a good thing. and no I am not assuming that I know my own mind. I may be an oldtimer but that doesn’t mean I have Alzheimer’s.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

o_O

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1 : The practice of repeating the same action while expecting different results.

by Timothy Hockemeyer on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

consider yourself wacked with my cane! :o)

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Run! Old angry man with a cane!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not all that angry

hopefully you kids will get your turn at being the angry old man.

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank

by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

maybe not wait 40 years and see. :o)

. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Hehe, this is fun, well……, I hope we all get old and see how that is. Love ya Ed

by transylvanian bear on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

You are right on, the same goes for me, they shouldn’t shackle the GM, we need to move further with putting pieces in place for Cutler , and the team to be successful.

by transylvanian bear on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Various bits of info from radio and TV

Dickerson

- Martz had no support at Halas Hall outside of Lovie and Roy Williams

- Martz and Tice would get into disagreements / arguments on how to best protect Cutler and offensive scheme in general

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hub Arkush

- Thinks Phillips is the main problem when it comes to the Bears problems

- Phillips is just not a football guy

- Suspects or wouldnt be surprised that Phillips and Lovie got together and Phillips said get rid of martz and I will get rid of Angelo trading off problems
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Michael Wilbon

- Was told in the Summer by 2 of his Bears insiders (former players that were still close with the team / ownership) that George McCaskey did not like Angelo and Martz

- They told him George McCaskey wanted Angelo out in 09 (was one of a few McCaskeys that felt this way)

- They told him back at the end of Aug that if the Bears miss the playoffs this season both Angelo and Martz would be let go

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2012 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

I really want to know what the McCaskey's love affair with Lovie is?

He brought in Martz and yet Martz is the fall guy. Also I’m not surprised that Martz had no backing because he was too damn stubborn. I agree with Arkush on this because I always believed that Phillips was a bigger problem than Angelo. He was the one that brought Angelo in in the first place and was the one who kept him around and extended him even though he should’ve been fired in ’09.

BTW great excerpts as always!

by frenchbears113 on Jan 5, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

In 09

Michael and Virginia McCaskey wanted to keep Angelo and Lovie around….Other McCaskeys (IIRC Brian and Peter McCaskey. First time I had heard George did not want Angelo back either) did not want them to return and just clean house and start fresh….IIRC Brian wanted shanahan and peter wanted cowher (or vice versa cant remember exactly who wanted who. This was according to B&B though) …..But since Michael and Virginia were in charge they made the choice that they would keep them but told them to win, change with the times or they would be let go…..

For what ever reason its been implied by various beat writers that Virginia likes Lovie…..Though I think now if they miss the playoffs next season George will have enough backing to let Lovie go….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

My read on Virginia loving her some Lovie

I’ve always assumed that Virginia sees Lovie as a latter-day George Halas, although obviously not in the “jumping up and down on the sidelines swearing at the refs” way. Lovie is, however, a father-figure coach much like Halas was when he wasn’t threatening to kick someone’s ass.

by Steve Ronkowski on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Let us not forget that Martz was almost quite literally the last option available.

It’s not exactly like Lovie chose Martz over 5-6 other viable, willing candidates.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

The Biggs article above suggests Lovie wanted Martz all along, and essentially passed over all the other candidates that Angelo was presenting to him:

When Lovie Smith hired Mike Martz two years ago, it was clearly his choice at the end of a month-long process in which Jerry Angelo suggested other candidates.

A source described it as essentially an “anyone but” situation for the general manager, but authority over the coaching staff belongs to the head coach and Smith got his man after the Bears reached out to a variety of candidates at the NFL and NCAA level.

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by Spongie on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

love the clark article iv worked in restauranta,offices,construction,landacaping,ect
if people arent on the same page the quality of work shows great to hear whats was really going on clark was a good pro on of my personal fav’s

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by chitown-tony on Jan 5, 2012 9:39 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

Read this in an espn article....

Baltimore director of player personnel Eric DeCosta and Green Bay director of football operations Reggie McKenzie also are strong candidates in the Bears’ search. DeCosta is believed to be the top contender for the job, according to multiple sources, but he also will interview in St. Louis, according to reports.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 5, 2012 9:41 AM CST reply actions  

So it's likely to be between DeCosta and McKenzie

This, I like!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll take them over Polian

I just don’t like the fact he’s as old as he is and his son would probably come with…Polian about 10 years ago I like…but now I’d rather have a younger guy at GM

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

Chris Polian could potentially be worse than Jerry Angelo!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Well done.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

this

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

According to Pompei

If it’s Polian, we’d be hiring his son, not his dad. His dad might come in as a consultant or something, but son would be the GM.

by tomas21 on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah hell no!

That just kills it for me

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey I found your link!

Posted it in fanshots. Also, from your same link, I’ve found this piece:

At some point in the search, the Bears also must satisfy the “Rooney Rule,” a league policy requiring teams to interview at least one minority candidate for head coach openings and positions in senior football operations. Chicago could do this by bringing in McKenzie.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

The biggest problem I see is that there seems to be no one driving the bus.

Hiring by committee, firing by scapegoating.

Is there even ONE true leader at Halas Hall? I haven’t heard anyone step up and take responsibility for the fiasco this organization currently finds itself in.

I was all for firing Angelo, and keeping Lovie seems like it may be OK (I think he does get the most out of a group of average players), however, handcuffing future leaders in your organization by declaring absolutes (Lovie stays), is a major mistake.

Phillips should commit hari kari, and resign. He does not inspire confidence that this transition will go well, no matter who we add. The firing of Angelo looks like another half measure by the organization – just enough red meat to keep us wolves at bay.

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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 5, 2012 9:43 AM CST reply actions  

maybe George will step up

this week has been a solid first step

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I am not conviced that this is a "fiasco".

We fired a general manager who was, over the entirety of his tenure (excluding a few gems), a poor GM.

We kept a coach whom the players love and play hard for (most of the time). Keep in mind he was also hamstrung by the lack of talented depth (Jerry’s Kids) and the lack of a wide market for offensive coordinators.

This falls short of being “a fiasco”.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

So it definitely appears Ted Phillips has surprisingly been handling this search the right way

Already have potentially 3 great candidates lined up on their short-list; Reggie McKenzie, Eric DeCosta, and Ted Sundquist. Any of those gentlemen would be a great hire by the Bears!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:01 AM CST reply actions  

Any idiot can compile a wish list.

and I already have :)

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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

The Bears prove otherwise

Last time around, our not-even-an-idiot team president had to hire an outside consultant to make a list for him.

by Steve Ronkowski on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditka?

It’s Ditka, isn’t it? :-D

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by Spongie on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

What I'm seeing here, and hearing other places, is that the Bears are pretty screwed.

Here’s my glass half-full look: We have a franchise quarterback and a franchise running back. We have some nice pieces on the line (Garza, Carimi, Williams, when he’s healthy, and Louis). We have 3 All Pro defenders and a few others that are either still at the top of their games or are future stars.

We aren’t the raging dumpster fire that many would like to believe. We have some issues, obviously, but we aren’t the absolute worst situation in the NFL and it’s not even close. We don’t have a lockerroom full of whiners (NYJ, I’m looking at you) or a coach calling out our players (OAK, there you are) or a team with virtually no offense (Hey, KC, how are ya?). It’s easy for us as fans to see our shortcomings and have our heads explode, but the reality is that we aren’t the worst situation out there and we have the potential to return to the post season next year with the right moves.

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by Swarley on Jan 5, 2012 10:36 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

How are the Bears screwed, then?

That should make it rather attracting for new GMs IMO.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I was just about to reply to this with “What would ECD say?” :-D

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by Spongie on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

And now you know ;)

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

That was my point.

We’re NOT screwed.

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by Swarley on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Ooh...

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

The only people saying that this organization, in its search for a new GM, is "screwed" are the habitually negative and pessimistic.

And let’s not be naive, there are a few beaters out there that seem to enjoy Chicago’s occasional blunders and ineptitude as much as Packer fans do. (Bernstein…Pompei…Haugh…Kapman…Isaacson)

We have the charter franchise. We have Jay Cutler, Matt Forte, an aging but veteran defense with 3 habitual probowlers.

Oh yeah, and the GM knows he will be given free reign for an “active free-agency” period to acquire WR’s, OL’s.

Lastly, any GM considering this position has to weigh the fact that any positive move he makes will look like a freakin’ master-stroke because of his predecessor’s mistake-laden tenure.

Come on, this job is more appealing than any other that is out there.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec this, my sentiments exactly.

The playoffs this year were a virtual certainty before Cutty and Forte went down. 2012 is looking pretty good to me.

by oripunk3485 on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. This team, after 10 games, was being referred to as "dangerous". Enter injuries.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

The only "good" thing to come of this

and other injury-riddled teams is that the league will need to re-think it’s desire to have an 18 game season.

by Virto on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Reading more from John "Moon" Mullin

I may have found what appears to be the plan of action when the Bears finally set out for FA, and WR will be the most sought out position by the Bears:

The Bears’ first target in free agency is a wide receiver and Angelo was prepared for a major first-strike on or above the scale of his grab of Muhsin Muhammad in 2005. Assume that and cornerback will remain targets 1-2, with pass rusher and linebacker in the offseason equation.

What is interesting is that it appears they may be keeping the plan Jerry Angelo had made up prior to his firing.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

Well, just because the old GM is gone

doesn’t mean the hole disappear too…we’re still weak at WR, CB, LT, DE, and depth at S, LB, QB.

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say QB

Considering Josh McCown was alright in spot duty. He may be brought back next year.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

and if Enderle can't play

we need yet another “developmental” guy

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Nate "Carmel" Emnderle

will be gone….Just my guess…

And I wouldnt be to enamored with mccown….He played just slightly better than Hanie did IMO just didnt have the INTs (though he tried in the minny game)….If I had to guess with martz gone Bears will pick up back up QBs that are geared towards the new system…..

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- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

ops

enderle….

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

see Emnderle is gone already

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by ed_brown on Jan 5, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Waitaminute...

So let’s tick off the needs listed in there.

- Wide Receiver.
- Cornerback.
- Pass rusher
- Linebacker.

Amazing how “offensive line” isn’t in there, at least yet. Interesting.

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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

May not be that surprising

When considering they may not feel there are a good amount of vet options available, topped off with the fact 2 day-1 starters were placed on IR in Chris Williams and Gabe Carimi, both of them exceptional young talents.

I’m thinking that OL and DE will be addressed in the draft. Then again, it all depends on who becomes the next GM.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Little bit of a stretch to call CWill an "exceptional" talent, isn't it?

Above average, probably, but he’s hardly a dominant G. Carimi I still have very high hopes for.

by oripunk3485 on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

True true.

I just think “exceptional” is a bit generous. Not saying I don’t want him back as the starting LG — I think him and Louis would make a nice inside pair.

by oripunk3485 on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Williams is an exceptional young talent and my girlfriend looks like Mila Kunis.

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by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Webb was also a day 1 starter. What’s that worth?

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by Spongie on Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

It's worth f*ck-all. He is absolutely garbage who's stench was hidden by absolutely HOT garbage.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Well now you want some solid veteran options ....

….. here are a few …..
Demetrius Bell (BUF) – OT
Carl Nicks (NO) – OG
Ben Grubbs (BAL) – OG
Chris Myers (HOU) – OC
Levi Brown (ARZ) – OT
Deuce Lutui (ARZ) – OG
Derrick Dockery (DAL) – OG
Chilo Rachal (SF) – OG
Andre Gurode (BAL) – OC

So we do have plenty of interior options , but tackle may be a bit thin . Also we must remember that some fellas are gonna get cut so that may add to the list .

Also here are some of the top corners & safeties …..
Brent Grimes (ATL)
Carlos Rogers (SF)
Brandon Carr (KC)
Terrell Thomas (NYG)
LaRon Landry (WAS)
Michael Griffin (TEN)
Tyvon Branch (OAK)

Yet again a bit thin but cuts will make the position a bit deeper .

Now some of the top WR’s & TE’s …….
Reggie Wayne (IND)
Vincent Jackson (SD)
Dwayne Bowe (KC)
Marques Colston (NO)
Steve Johnson (BUF)
Jerome Simpson (CIN)
Braylon Edwards (SF)
Jermichael Finley (GB)
Fred Davis (WAS)
John Carlson (SEA)
Martellus Bennett (DAL)

TE’s are kinda thin , but WR seems to have some depth to it .

How bout some pass rushers & LB’s now …..
Robert Mathis (IND) – DE
Calais Campbell (ARZ) – DE
Cliff Avril (DET) – DE
John Abraham (ATL) – DE
Kroy Biermann (ATL) – DE
Phillip Merling (MIA) – DE
Mario Williams (HOU) – DE
Curtis Lofton (ATL)
Stephen Tulloch (DET)
Dan Connor (CAR)

DE & DT is thin as is LB , but cuts should add some depth to it . So there you go guys some solid FA names to bounce around ( ya know somebody could do a fanpost with this much info * hint * * hint * there Erik ! ) HERES A LINK TO THE INFO

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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Sadefully I am unable to make fanposts with my current laptop

The format somehow doesn’t agree with my software, and it won’t allow me to type in the visual view. It gets very complicated from time to time.

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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Well thats no good man . I kinda liked your fanposts man . Get yo ....

….. self a new machine and get back to it homie cause FA & the draft are rapidly approaching !

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Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll figure something out bruh!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Excellent !!!

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Landry

You guys think he would be a good fit? Is he expecting a huge payday?

by TR MacReady on Jan 5, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He could be a good fit

However, IIRC he has had injury issues lately.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

But he would cure our safety woes in a hurry !

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

i would hope

the next gm has enough sense to target one of the many talented wr free agents this off season

by TR MacReady on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Bears requested permission today to interview Ravens director of player personnel Eric DeCosta for Chicago’s general manager job.

"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."

- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line

by CloudyFuture on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

shoop shoop shoop

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by ThorCo on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Outstanding!

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

And

Eric DeCosta may be the guy the Bears want the most. Of course, they must comply with the “Rooney Rule” so they will have another interview, which may be Reggie McKenzie.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I kinda prefer Reggie McKenzie , but I'll gladly take either guy !

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by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm thinking they would like DeCosta more

Because the Ravens had been far more active in the FA and trade market than the Packers in recent years. Plus, the Ravens have had arguably as good of a record in the draft as any other team recently. I would still have Reggie McKenzie as my favorite due to his excellence in the draft, but Eric DeCosta seems to be an ideal person to hire as a GM of a playoff team.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too. I think some, but not all, of the Reginald allure comes from the fact that he is in the current Packers' front office.

Close friend of mine and avid cheesehead reports that Reginald was the fist-on-table-slapper in the drafting of Graham Harrel. Said he would fear losing their current QB coach, Clements, much more so than McKenzie.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmm...that sounds interesting

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

They tried last year but the Packers declined the Bears request.

I think the rule is if he’s under contract to another team, he can only be allowed to interview for a HC position without any resistance from the team currently employing him. Anything less, like an attempt to sign him as an OC, can be blocked by the Packers.

by frenchbears113 on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

That's unfortunate.

"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."

by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

I don’t know if he is signed through this year, though. But, I’m also certain if the Bears want to interview him, they will have to wait until Green Bay’s season is over, whenever that is.

Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that

by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Best way to get him is to get Reggie here as well .......

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 5, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

This guy

and Mckenzie. I wouldnt be upset with either

by TR MacReady on Jan 5, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Either would work for me.

by transylvanian bear on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM CST reply actions  

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