If Chicago likes Baltimore's Eric DeCosta for GM they better hurry
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM CST
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PrintThe Baltimore Ravens director of player personnel Eric DeCosta may have his pick of four teams that are looking to fill their general manager position. According to Sports Illustrated three teams have already asked permission to interview DeCosta (Bears, Colts, and Rams) and the Raiders plan to get around to him as well. He is long rumored to be the heir apparent to Ozzie Newsome in Baltimore, but he may not want to wait to run his own team. Sports Illustrated speculates that the Bears situation may be the most attractive to him. Check the SI article for more information by clicking here.
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Good thing they've already contacted him the Ravens for permission!
Any word as to whether or not the Bears have received permission yet? It seems he may want to come to Chicago, so fingures crossed!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:40 PM CST reply actions
According to @michael c wright
Since they have already granted permission to other teams they have to grant if to Bears. Cannot be selective
by 75bearsfan on Jan 5, 2012 2:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well thats good
I guess we may not find out whether he is interested or not for a while
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
I’d rather get McKenzie from GB, Baltimore has been great at evaluating defensive talent, but aside from Ray Rice, I’m not overly impressed with their offensive skill position picks
Fix the Offensive Line
I don't know about that
Their receiving corps is pretty good IMO
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Boldin came via FA
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
They did. They gave up a 3rd, 4th and 5th
by frenchbears113 on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was Baltimore sent a 3rd and 4th to Arizona
and Arizona gave Boldin and a 5th rounder to the Ravens. Great deal for the Ravens, pissed me off for days that we couldnt make a deal for the guy who clearly wanted out of Arizona and would have been an instant upgrade to our WR corp. but alas JA is gone and better days are ahead.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I hear reports that the season before
Jerry offered Arizona a 2nd but they didn’t want it
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They may have been holding out for a 1st round pick.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
The way I see it, we are "win now" because of the defense's age. That means we need offensive additions to come via FA, and defensive depth via draft.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
draft some help on O too
To go with any FA signings, give #6 more weapons
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Well
saying “except for Ray Rice”, you don’t like their skill position picks on offense is kind of an odd assesment. A starting offense has 5 skill position players (QB, RB, TE, WR, WR). Since you are leaving out Ray Rice (which is a big one to leave out, since he is one of the most valuable RBs in football), you are saying you don’t like the other 4 guys.
One of their starters (Boldin) was brought in through free agency, so he doesn’t count.
The other starter, Torrey Smith, caught 50 balls for 800+ yards and 7 TDs in his rookie season. For the record, that would far exceed anyone on the Bears (damning with faint praise, but still).
The leaves Dennis Pitta, the TE, and Joe Flacco. Dennis Pitta is a great blocking TE, bu also caught 40 passes this year. Those 40 catches are more than any Bears WR or TE this year. Not sure how you can have a problem with him as a 4th round pick.
And then there is Flacco. He is somewhat inconsistent, but he isn’t horrible. And do you dislike him so much that you would just flippantly dismiss someone regarded as one of the top future GMs in football?
DeCosta has been with the organization since 1996
The list of players signed and drafted while DeCosta has been working with Newsom, is star studded to say the least. And under the past few years, he has helped to not only build depth on a championship caliber defense, but has helped in building an offense that is on the rise.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
We really don’t know what we have at Te, Martz hardly used them in the passing game, and I’ll give Smith props for a nice rookie year, but look at the other failures they had at WR
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 6, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
yup
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those are probably the top 2 candidates, we need much more help on O though, so I'd choose McKenzie
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Last year it was roundly speculated that they were around 10-20m under.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
think the number was $18M
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
have to extend Forte too
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Or just franchise him for one year.
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Do you know
if the cap is affected by the tag? Would it have to all be applied to the salary cap, eating something like 14 mil?
Would have to apply
7.7 mil to Forte if they Franchise him for 2012 according to the Suntimes article….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Gotcha
about what they’d end up putting on this year’s cap if they signed him. Means the tag is still a viable option.
I believe they can use franchise tag in 13 also
Not sure about that though
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Yes
they can…Franchise Forte in 12 and 13…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
thanks, couldn't remember where I heard that, thought that could be a factor
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
awesome
i say trade some people and get some mid round pix. the safety play look bad in the games i watched. and the line looked bad too.
Conte showed a lot of potential, but yes, the secondary needs more help
A good #2 CB (Carr, Grimes) is key as well as help at safety.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
So every damn year we draft safeties???
When does the DB carousel end?
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
Well
depends on when they finally hit on one that Lovie (or whoever is HC) is happy with the play of the said safeties…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Conte showed a lot of potential and if Wright can stay on the field, that could be the answer
But Wright has to stay healthy and we haven’t seen much evidence of that
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Personally I like how Steltz played after Wright went down.
I think Wright has better potential but I’d love to see a competition between the two during training camp.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 5, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Steltz is a FA right now, they'd have to re-sign him
But I could see a competition between those players, you’re right.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Problem
Lovie wasnt a big steltz fan…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
didn't know that. Meriwether was a big mistake too
I think it’s back to draft a safety again though
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Really?
I’ve always thought Lovies was high him and that’s why he’s still with the Bears.
You're never a loser until you quit trying - MIke Ditka
Angelo kept
him around and had value for Lovie because of special teams….From my understanding Lovie did not want to put Steltz out there to play safety though because Lovie didnt think Steltz was athletic enough…..IIRC Heard that from a couple of Bears beat writers…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Read in the Sporting News draft guide in 08 he could be a starter by midway through rookie season
“He proved to be an underrated athlete with the tools to be a pro safety. Steltz will be a special teams player and backup safety early, but eventually will start.”
Craig Steltz scouting report in that guide
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
no problem
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Wright
was to inconsistent…..Wouldnt be surprised if they cut ties with him now considering he was in Lovie dog house at the end of this season…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
that'd be another miss in the top 3 rounds
But with a new GM in town, hopefully those mistakes are corrected
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Right now
1st, 2nd, two 3rds, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th round picks…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Currently have 8 picks
With 1 in each round and 2 in the 3rd round thanks to the Olsen trade.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
hopefully most of those are spent fixing the O
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
If I had to guess
a lot of the roster is going to be gutted by the new GM (especially the bottom half)…..Unless the new GM is Lovie Smith and or Tim Ruskell…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
ST is very important, would be interesting to see how that situation is handled
Since that comprises the bottom half of the roster, I know Graham and Steltz are FA and they were key in helping the return game be as successful as it is.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
you're right about the safety play though, it just hasn't been consistent, no matter who's played there
They tried to find a solution w/Meriwether but his lack of awareness was very evident. Steltz improved toward the end of the season, but overall, their play was just not consistent enough.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
When it did seem consistent, it was likely because Conte and Wright were playing together.
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First and foremost, the Bears are relatively healthy in terms of the salary cap, which is expected to be $120.37 million in 2012. One NFL executive said the Bears are projected to be $20 million below the cap, the most room of any team in the NFC North.
An estimated $7.7 million should be set aside for the franchise tender of Matt Forte. And with the salaries of most of their other top players locked in, the Bears can allocate some of the remaining $12 million to keeping some key free agents, a pool of players that includes Kahlil Bell, Corey Graham, Israel Idonije, Tim Jennings, Amobi Okoye and Roy Williams. In addition, the Bears could create more space by releasing some veterans, such as Marion Barber ($1.9 million) and Frank Omiyale ($1.8 million).
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I’d rather keep Barber over Roy Williams
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
DeCosta will screw the Bears over
Like the Ravens thought the Bears screwed them over last year in the draft.
"He took a shot in the most sensitive and painful area" - MIke Tirico
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM CST reply actions
Ya I get
that vibe as well….Dunno why….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
i know he was the head scout before
but since he’s been the director they really havent gotten much from the draft
Good thing the Bears haven't done anything recently that might have made the Ravens front office people mad.
Oh, wait….
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
The thing is
That if the ravens give permission to one team they cant deny other teams…..Course wonder if decosta would hold a grudge himself for that little incident thus not wanting to interview with the Bears…..Though I have seen reports that decosta is interested but that could just be guessing on someones part…….Guess we will have to wait and see….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I thought that too, but it's doesn't matter
if the Raven’s already allowed him to interview with another team. They cannot block the Bears from doing the same.
DavidHaugh David Haugh
DeCosta has no past with Lovie and comes from a defensive-minded org built around 3-4 scheme. Which doesn’t scream "chemistry with Lovie.’’
DavidHaugh David Haugh
But if he dazzles Bears in interview and has draft record to make him stand out, bravo to Phillips for not letting compatibility get in way.
DavidHaugh David Haugh
As stated Wednesday and several times since, to allow any head coach before win-or-else season input into choosing his next boss is silly.
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
interesting info
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Ya
if thats the case I can not see decosta being the top choice…..I saw a report at ESPN Chicago saying that decosta and les snead are two of the top choices for the Bears…..
A league source told ESPNChicago.com Thursday that the club is “meticulously vetting” Atlanta Falcons director of player personnel Les Snead as a candidate to bring in to interview.
Also, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter Thursday that the Bears requested permission Thursday to interview Ravens executive Eric DeCosta. He is believed to be the top contender for the job, according to multiple sources, but he also will interview with the St. Louis Rams, according to reports…..
Snead currently works closely with Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff, who went to Atlanta in 2008 from New England, where the Patriots were 77-17 during his tenure. Snead, who has a strong reputation as a pro scout, was in charge of Atlanta’s pro scouting operations when he was promoted to director of player personnel in 2009.
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I can't see DeCosta being the choice either,wanting to run a 3-4, when we're stuck with the Cover 2
The guy from ATL doesn’t seem to have much experience either. I think Reggie McKenzie is the best option at this point in time.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Who says DeCosta wants to run a 3-4?
He’s worked for the Ravens for 16 years, meaning he was around when they ran a 4-3. They did win a Super Bowl with the 4-3 defense.
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 5, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
from Haugh's Twitter that Cloudy linked above
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
DeCosta is not the one to decide which scheme shall be ran on defense
He simply has been doing his job: Get Players That Fit His Coaches’ Schemes.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
While thats somewhat true (decosta assits newsome to find players that fit a scheme)
who is to say what decosta believes on what is the best way to win football games / titles ……decosta might believe 3 – 4 is the best way to go…..But we wont know that until he speaks or makes moves on a football team….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Kind of strange since he was around when the Raven ran a 4-3 and won their 1 Super Bowl
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
Not saying that is what he believes
just that he might have a different view on what schemes are best to win right now….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I still don't see that ever becoming an issue
I don’t think he is the type who will walk down to a coach’s office and bust the door down saying “Hey, you! We’re running it MY way!” in terms of schemes on either side of the ball.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
yeah it's the Cover 2 as long as Lovie's here
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
More specifically 4-3 Tampa 2 zone
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
this year they ran more cover 3 and cover 1
Than in years past
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 5, 2012 5:26 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And Lovie has been rolling a lot of disguises in his coverage schemes
Certainly not what it once was in the past.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
that's true in the Haugh Twitter you linked, it seemed like there would be a philosophy issue w/Lovie
if he were hired. I’m not saying he isn’t a good option, I like that he comes from a successful front office
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Stop listening to Haugh. His tweets are either speculation, snarky opinion, or both.
He is a huge derp.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
that's Haugh speculating
Not from DeCosta
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
right
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Cooling off on
mckenzie myself…..packer fan friends of mine tell me that mckenzie is not to responsible for drafting and or putting together the team….Thats more ted thompson and john dorsey…..but eh….Maybe they are just messing with me….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I don't think chemistry will be an issue
He is not the person who decided which defense to run, it’s the HC’s decision to run the 3-4. He is simply doing his job (well) by getting his coach the players and talent to run his schemes on offense and defense. Also, what he definitely neglected to state was the Ravens won the Super Bowl when the Ravens still ran a 4-3 scheme.
This whole chemistry “issue” is absurd to me. DeCosta has just been his job.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think he just means the philosophy is different
But we’re stuck w/ the Cover 2 and have drafted and signed players who fit that scheme, would be a mistake to try anything new now anyway
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
ESPNChiBears Dickerson and Wright
Besides DeCosta, Sneed,Dawson, other names to monitor for Bears GM job: Arizona’s Steve Keim and Kanas City’s Ray Farmer. JD
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Ehh...not to high on the guy from Arizona
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
me neither
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
no, only been player personnel guy for them since 08, Leinart drafted in 06
Found it on Google
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
steve keim bio
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
They haven't won diddly squat since Kurt Warner retired
And their QB situation is a complete mess.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, I can see it now:
ESPN Reports: Bears botch draft trade, send all their picks to Baltimore. Somewhat ironic, considering last years draft pick trade mess up. New GM decosta is says " I just don’t know what happened ( wink wink).
Next day
BREAKING NEWS: Bears GM Eric decosta resigns, then re-sign with ravens.
Prov 6: 21 - 22
if that happened,
bears would be able to file a complaint to the commissioner for tampering by the ravens, which would result in the bears winning back their draft picks, and probably receive a bunch of picks from the ravens in return. That would be dumb for the ravens to do for “revenge”. Especially since the screw-up wasn’t out of malice, it was just the front office being dumb.
this
mckenzie myself…..packer fan friends of mine tell me that mckenzie is not to responsible for drafting and or putting together the team….Thats more ted thompson and john dorsey…..but eh….Maybe they are just messing with me….
I completely agree its Ted Thompson. He was trained under Ron Wolf, not McKenzie. McKenzie may have learned some things from Ted by now but I’d prefer DeCosta. Seems to have more upside. Plus he’s not Lovie’s friend like McKenzie. Had enough of those experiments.
Maybe a dumb thought here..
But to comply with the Rooney Rule, couldn’t the Bears just interview Lovie for the GM spot? Not to say I want that to happen. I’d really like to see them go after McKenzie.
"He took a shot in the most sensitive and painful area" - MIke Tirico
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 5, 2012 9:03 PM CST reply actions
has to be somebody from another team
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
decosta
top guy I would like in the spot but in the end any GM has to work with lovie and those other goons at halas hall, and I’m afraid they will prevent the new GM from achieving his max potential.
right, I can't see there being a good GM/HC relationship when Lovie has input on who they choose
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Wonder why Nick Caserio from New England hasn't been mentioned.
He’s been the Director of Player Personnel with one of the top franchises for the past 8 years. He’s doing something right up there.
"He took a shot in the most sensitive and painful area" - MIke Tirico
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM CST reply actions
I don't think he's on the interview list either
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
probably because
most of the front office and coaching staff that leave rarely have success away from NE
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