Schefter: Raiders to hire Reggie McKenzie as next General Manager
by Dane Noble on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM CST
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PrintSome late news breaking this evening that might come as disappointment to Chicago Bears fans: The Oakland Raiders will sign Packers Director of Football Operations to be their next General Manager, per Adam Schefter.
McKenzie was being courted by Chicago for the same position, and many fans had expressed their support of potentially bringing in one of the key leaders from Green Bay who helped assemble the current Packers roster. But it looks like the Bears will have to keep looking...
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And they satisfied the Rooney Rule all at the same time.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I'm ok with this
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Ah bugger...
Well it’s now DeCosta time! Seriously, I hope that guy takes the job with the Bears as the new GM.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM CST reply actions
Wasn't my top choice (like it matters). Kept hearing my friends who are diehard Cheesers tell me he wouldn't be a huge loss for them...
I am told he was the driving force behind the Graham Harrell pick.
DeCosta or bust?
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
DeCosta is definitely the favorite now
Sundquist wouldn’t be too bad of a hire, though.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Excuse me, Dane. "He was behind the Graham Harrell signing".
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
He was a practice squad guy for them.
Why would that make a difference when judging the performance of a personnel man?
I'm a ninja.
He was a practice squad guy for them, after McKenzie (apparently) was adamant that he get a shot. That means they gave him a spot during camp.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
So I will rephrase. McKenzie was "adamant" about giving Graham Harrell a camp spot. I think that speaks to his ability to judge talent.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Okay; I guess signing Harrell to the practice squad trumps
him bringing Rogers and Flynn on board.
I'm a ninja.
Other than being a 3rd string QB on the Packers is there something about this Harrell guy I should know?
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 PM CST up reply actions
Not what I am saying. At. All.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
lol
you’re saying that he has a strong presence in Green Bay’s FO. lol but saying he was the driving force behind Harrel’s signing isn’t quite the best way to illustrate that…
At no point did I ever state "he had a strong presence in GB's office." You are mistaking what Dane is saying for what I am saying.
So, there’s that.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 6, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
Because I am sure you have it on great authority that McKenzie hand selected Rogers and Flynn like he hand selected Harrell. Different situations completely.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Well done.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
The question is:
Was that absolutely McKenzie who brought in both guys, or was it Ted Thompson?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
Apaprently we can criticize McKenzie for signing a QB to the practice squad,
but not give him credit for the #1 and #2 QB on the active roster…
I'm a ninja.
"Criticizing" him doesn't mean I don't think he was solid.
I am just not going to be enamored by him simply because he was apart of the Packers front office….like a large percentage of this website has been. Maybe including you?
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
He played a key role in building one of the best rosters in all of football.
But, because he was a Packer, let’s only focus on Graham Harrell?
Give me the coaches, executives, players, that give us the best chance at winning a championship. I couldn’t care less where else they’ve worked.
I'm a ninja.
yep agree on that one
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Yeah, I think we all do. I'm just not completely sold that Reggie was the best option for us. In my mind, he was #2 or #3.
And I named an example of one of his table-pounding decisions to expand on why I had that opinion. I have not “anti-Packer” bias. I do think the simple fact that Reggie has been a part of the Packers front office has basically made peoples’ minds up for them….perhaps without looking into the matter further.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
*don't have
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like Ted Thompson
Gets most of the success for the Packers’s tremendous success in assembling a talented roster. How big a role did McKenzie play? Or are they both overrated and does McCarthy deserve more of the credit?
Well said.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 6, 2012 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
But also, he is off the board really early...making things even more difficult.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
Is the fact that Lovie is here regardless in 2012 hurting our chances of getting the best man for the job
I wonder how much that would bother a potential GM to know they have no ability to bring in their guy right out of the gate?
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM CST reply actions
Don't see why that is a determinate factor of being hired or choosing the job...at all. Lovie has one year to win. Its not like the talent drafted in round 1-4, and the talent contained within FA acquisitions won't transfer to 2013.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Very true, the GM should have a horizon past one or two seasons
So it probably doesnt matter in the big picture for one of these guys.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
This could be true
Although I wonder if Oakland is doing the same with Hugh Jackson? In any case, the Bears two primary competitors for Eric DeCosta are the Rams and Colts. Both of those teams are offering complete control compared to the Bears.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
has decosta interviewed yet??
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Not yet
Thought I read something his decision as to whether or not to interview with any franchise outside the Ravens organization may not come for a couple days. I do know the Rams have received permission to interview him, though.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
do you think Sundquist is plan B then??
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
Perhaps
From what’s been published around the web, Eric DeCosta has been the Bears #1 choice for GM. Sundquist wouldn’t be a bad alternative, to say the least.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 6, 2012 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
Hue Jackson is still coaching Oakland
And my die-hard Raiders buddy told me that Hue has a clause in his contract that he only reports to the Davis family.
So I think Lovie being on for 2012 would have little effect on the situation.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 6, 2012 5:05 AM CST up reply actions
F Green Bay
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
With one of those stupid foam cheesehead hats
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 6, 2012 9:19 AM CST up reply actions
crap.
hope this doesn’t turn out like the offensive coordinator position search 2 years ago. I don’t want to end up with the worst choice. the bears will be playoff-less for the next decade if that happens.
please please please get DeCosta.
agreed, go w/ the best available candidate
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
So if we dont get one of these marquis guys could this stretch out into March this search?
Seems like we would want to get this solved sooner than later and get on with the business of the draft, FAs etc.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 PM CST reply actions
they want the guy in place by march 12 (the start of FA)
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
AKA my shipout date
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
RU joining the military my man?
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
The World’s Finest Navy, to be exact.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 6, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
why would McKenzie sign so soon?
you’d think he would check for other offers.
by ChicagoBearOfAnaheim on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM CST reply actions
Apparently he found what he wanted. Sucks we couldn't even get an interview.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Jan 5, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
Cant argue with the weather out in the Bay area, sounds like easy living without blizzards and 10 below January nights
No more bitter cold winters might sell me on a job on the coast.
White Sox fans need not apply.
by Bears-Cubs Bulls on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
so much for wanting to stay in the midwest close to his daughter
by ChicagoBearOfAnaheim on Jan 6, 2012 1:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'd heard that one too....
Oakland must’ve made one HELL of an offer, since he jumped at it without looking at any other opportunities…..
by David in Maine on Jan 6, 2012 2:44 AM CST up reply actions
Not the greatest news but...
DeCosta is the better of the two IMO. Fingers crossed
***Jeff Fisher for front office 2012***
(A real change we can believe in)
by Joeb'n777 on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions
yes, it's called the Rooney Rule
The Rooney Rule is explained in the link above
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
They could interview Lovie, and cover the Rooney Rule
Fix the Offensive Line
by touchdown bears on Jan 6, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Rooney Rule
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
yep no problem
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
My pessimism
is in full swing. Decosta is staying in Bal, wont get the Bronco guy and were gonna end up with mini me polian. i cant believe this is happening
well, our #1 choice went to OAK, on to the next best candidate
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
"What did I do wrong? They won two championships in this town in 50 years. I played on one and coached the other one. I'll go somewhere and apologize, but you'll have to tell me where and who to." Mike Ditka, 2005
Snead or DaCosta for the Bears then
I prefer DaCosta but it seems to me the Bears office is leaning towards Snead.
yeah I prefer DeCosta too, Snead just doesn't have enough experience
My second choice would be Sundquist
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
"What did I do wrong? They won two championships in this town in 50 years. I played on one and coached the other one. I'll go somewhere and apologize, but you'll have to tell me where and who to." Mike Ditka, 2005
remember
Don’t get your hopes up too high we just need someone better than angelo, and he set the bar kinda low so anything would be great lecosta or snead hell sign em both
by beartopia on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
no, we really need to aim higher than "saomeone better than Angelo"
Someone w/ a clear plan to get this franchise back to where it belongs: at the top of the NFL.
"i'd like to see us draft an owner." Jim McMahon, 1986
"We had the 80's, and Michael had the 90's." Otis Wilson
"What did I do wrong? They won two championships in this town in 50 years. I played on one and coached the other one. I'll go somewhere and apologize, but you'll have to tell me where and who to." Mike Ditka, 2005
Why does it seem to you
they prefer Snead? Every report I’ve seen says DeCosta is their preferred target. They are vetting Snead, but presumably that’s because they need more than one option.
Maybe he just didn't want to be the guy
that would have to fire his close friend, a year from now. He knows winning and they did coach together. But more likely, there’s a lot of power to be had out there in Oakland. That vacuum left by Al Davis, how fitting, eh?
Bearsh!tt!n It ain't obscene- I'm a Bears fan that likes hittin and exclamation points.
That's fine
I don’t know if McKenzie would be a good or bad GM. But it’s a loss for Green Bay (actually two losses, he’s taking someone with him), and a loss for Green Bay is a gain for us.
I don’t want their head scout (Dorsey) to be our GM, but maybe us interviewing him will make someone else want him and they’ll lose him too.
What's so bad about Dorsey?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 6, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Bad choice in my opinion.
One, he’s going to have a power struggle with Hue Jackson. And two, Oakland I believe doesn’t have a pick in this years draft until the 5th round (maybe 4th), doesn’t have a first round pick next year, plus several other picks from future drafts have been traded away.
Oh well, on to the next candidate.
"He took a shot in the most sensitive and painful area" - MIke Tirico
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 6, 2012 8:30 AM CST reply actions
Hue Jackson has a lot of power in Oakland?
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 6, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
He's a pretty strong dude.
haha.
Not necessarily a lot of power but I’ve read he has a direct line to team ownership. I could see that becoming a issue with Jackson and McKenzie if they don’t see eye-to-eye on something.
"He took a shot in the most sensitive and painful area" - MIke Tirico
by boondock_saint812 on Jan 6, 2012 9:21 AM CST up reply actions
Polians or someone under the radar?
Once again, the Bears are slow to react when the picking is ripe.
"I'm sore and I'm pissed off. I'm a baller. I want to feel the leather. I love thumb wars. 6-8 weeks? 6. follow me for healing, Jay Cutler does" - Jaysthumb twitter acct
by propheteer on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
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