Is Tim Ruskell In Play For Bears' GM Position After All?
by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 7:01 AM CST
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PrintTo answer the title question, Dan Pompei sure seems to think so. After firing Jerry Angelo on Thursday, the team has seemingly moved with little urgency as other competitors for hot candidates make their moves - the Raiders with Reggie McKenzie and the Colts who plan on interviewing seven candidates by the end of Monday.
But Pompei thinks there's something else brewing up at Halas Hall.
Meanwhile, multiple sources said there is an internal movement to influence Phillips and team ownership to seriously consider personnel direct Tim Ruskell for the job.
Ruskell has good relationships with head coach Lovie Smith, the assistant coaches and the scouting staff. He understands the team's schematic philosophies and the lay of the land. Retaining him would minimize change but still give the Bears a new voice and direction.
However, there is one key phrase here at the end...
It is believed Phillips wants to focus on external candidates before giving Ruskell a chance.
So McKenzie's off the table, as is Eric DeCosta. What do you think?
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....!!!
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by Claudio Oliveira on Jan 8, 2012 7:08 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's official
I need to be placed on suicide watch. If the bears make Ruskell the new GM I am going to become very irrational!!
For all that is holy, please NO!
Seattle draft history. He’s terrible.
2009 1. Aaron Curry OLB 2. Max Unger G/C 3. Deon Butler WR 6. Mike Teel QB 7. Courtney Greene S 7. Nick Reed DE 7. Cameron Morrah TE
2008 1. Lawrence Jackson DE 2. John Carlson TE 4. Red Bryant DT 5. Owen Schmitt FB 6. Tyler Schmitt LS 7. Justin Forsett RB 7. Brandon Coutu K
2007 2. Josh Wilson CB 3. Brandon Mebane DT 4. Baraka Atkins DE 4. Mansfield Wrotto G 5. Will Herring OLB 6. Courtney Taylor WR 6. Jordan Kent WR 7. Steve Vallos G/C
2006 1. Kelly Jennings CB 2. Darryl Tapp DE 4. Rob Sims OG 5. David Kirtman FB 7. Ryan Plackemeier P 7. Ben Obomanu WR
2005 1. Chris Spencer G/C 2. Lofa Tatupu MLB 3. David Greene QB 3. Leroy Hill OLB 4. Ray Willis OT 5. Jeb Huckeba DE 6. Tony Jackson FB 7. Cornelius Wortham LB 7. Doug Niehaus OL
those are some horrible drafts
barely any of those players are still with the Seahawks
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How are these awful?
They aren’t great but there are guys who are at least still in the league (and with the coaching change in Seattle that isn’t overly surprising that they want different guys), there are some pretty decent OLinemen, something JA never drafted. He can’t draft QBs any better than JA though either, haha.
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
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by Sam Householder on Jan 8, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see any offensive skill position players worth a damn - namely, WRs
Hasselbeck was aging, and they didn’t do crap about that, either. And don’t forget, for the few good OL he drafted, like Spencer and Unger, it still may have been a net negative because he let Steve Hutchinson leave to Minnesota.
Please, NO.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and let's not forget....
The Seahawks were in the Super Bowl in 2005, when he started drafting for them.
By the end of his tenure, that Aaron Curry pick was #4 in the draft.
That’s not what I, nor any Seahawk fans, consider ‘progress’.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Looking over his picks
The Bears org could save a lot of money and just take the guys he drafted from Seattle. I think most are on the street anyway
Ruskell interview when with Seattle
Similar methods to Angelo “focus on intangibles” Garrett Wolfe had some intangibles. So did Jarron Gilbert when he showed us how to jump out of a pool.
How about focus solely on talent and taking the best player available?
The point of firing JA...
was to change the direction of the poor drafting and talent evaluations that had been the hallmark of JA’s tenure. Ruskell has a track record of making similar bad decisions. Why would any sane person believe he would be even adequate, let alone steer the franchise in a direction of success?
What bothers me the most about the situation is this:
Ruskell has good relationships with head coach Lovie Smith, the assistant coaches and the scouting staff.
Whomever accepts the GM position needs to have enough objectivity and authority to say no to Lovie and right now it appears that Lovie has faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar too much say in the hiring of his boss. Besides the current scouting staff also has a proven track record of failure. I sincerely hope the Bears are not just scape-goating JA to allow Lovie to continue to marginalize the team with awful personnel and player decisions. If the Bears do hire Ruskell, this team is doomed.
There's a fine line between stupid...and clever!
Yeah I'm actually starting to wonder whether or not Lovie is the one responsible for the slew of bad drafts and undeveloped players. It seems that he's pulling one too many power moves and no one has a problem with it.
He knows a new GM will probably fire him next season so he’s trying to save his a** and the McCaskeys are too dumb to see that he was/is part of the problem. What’s funny to me is that Phillips is looking elsewhere as opposed to Ruskell. To me that just screams potential problems in the FO.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 8, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions
It's looking more and more
Like JA and Martz were the scape-goats for Phillips and Lovie. Having Lovie and Phillips make the decision on JA’s replacement is an absolute scam. First of all Phillips shouldn’t even be involved in any football-related decsions, since is not a “football” guy and as are result is a huge part of the problem to begin with.
"Schematic Philosophies"
is the problem to begin with. That’s why Lovie has to go too. These high powered offenses today thrive against conservative defenses, and running to set up the pass is dead. Times have changed, and the Bears are stuck in the 60s(“Philosophically”).
Shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic
….didn’t somebody once say “Activity doesn’t equal accomplishment”?
Be bold Ted, please don’t do what is easiest
by JB 23 on Jan 8, 2012 7:45 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
The wheels on the bus go clunk clunk crash
So lets put the left tires on the right side and rights on the left. Frickin’ Bears.
by TheMan1 on Jan 8, 2012 8:10 AM CST via mobile reply actions
If what Michael Wright reported
as well as this report is true I would have to agree what with dan bernstein said…..Just name Lovie (or a Lovie puppet) GM and be done with it….Cant fool the fan base with this….Course they might try but I doubt many will bite…..
IMO the Bears will interview some people with decent track records when it comes to the draft then turn around and hire either ruskell or morocco Brown…..Some one Lovie "trusts"or wants…..
BTW I thought it odd that the Bears / ruskell were signing players to futures contracts when there is no GM in place (even if they are just camp scrubs)….This might explain why….
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
And now people know why I was worried to see players being signed even if they're camp bodies
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
no one should worry about players being signed
Football business still has to take place whether a GM is in place or not… The organization targeted a few players to sign to futures contracts and once they were allowed they did.
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 12:04 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed
It would be stupid to not sign guys to futures contracts now, GM or no. Would people rather them just shutter the windows and turn off the phones until we hire a GM?
If its free, take two.
by T.J. Shouse on Jan 8, 2012 12:41 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
that would be funny
A big closed sign on Halas Hall
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 1:04 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
or "Gone Fishing"
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Nick?
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 3:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
If Ruskell Gets Hired It WIll Merely Confirm That The Bears
are who we thought they were
by Gaak on Jan 8, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I believe (and hope) they're only considering him as a last resort
Right at this moment the Bears are not interviewing people, because there is a good chance they’re not allowed to speak with their candidates until that team’s playoff run is over. Read over the DeCosta article, and the Bears were told by the Ravens they would not be allowed to interview him until after the playoffs are done in Baltimore. This may be what’s happening, and why Ted Phillips suggested it could take as long as Febuary to find a new GM.
At least, that’s what I pray happens, so long as a quality candidate takes over as GM…
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:46 AM CST reply actions
as a matter of fact it does.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
This GM search is like the blind leading the blind
Since Phillips is basically clueless. So, even if the playoffs were over, now – I doubt he would have a much better handle on this situation. But, like you I pray that he’s got some sort of a plan in place (other than promoting Ruskell).
My fear is that both Lovie and Phillips will want to hire a “yes man”, who will agree with Lovie/give him what he wants, and be a puppet to Phillips – and not expose him for his ineptness. Then when the new GM fails, he will conveniently be the next scape-goat to take the fall for Lovie and Phillips, again.
With the way the 2011 season played out and the Mike Tice promotion
If the Bears make Ruskell the GM, I think it will be in my best interest to find something else to do with my time. The Bears would be better off having kept Martz and JA than releasing/firing them and getting bad replacements for them.
Until Ruskell actually happens, I’ll keep that great american novel on the back-burner.
im all for mike tice
but this is insane to even consider. If they look at that draft history and sign him. the bears organization is even more frenched than i thought
It would appear that Steve is amused by watching us all line up on the ledge.
It is funny really,
Pompeii has no story so he writes a few lines of BS that doesn’t really say anything, Steve does the “Hey guys look at this” and we all stampede for the ledge like a community of lemmings.
Lovie the Puppet Master theories are especially rich. Lovie gets Angelo fired so he can get Angelo’s friend Ruskell hired? Lovie is the reincarnation of Niccolò Machiavelli.
we live in interesting times
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Lovie the Puppet Master...
Sounds like an awesome idea for a David Taylor “OSS” project…..
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions
I went to high school with Niccolò Machiavell not a guy you wanted to turn your back to.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
by ed_brown on Jan 8, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
awesome
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Love Machiavelli
Guy was a genius.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
the prince was pure satire
a lot of people read it and aren’t aware of that
While it does amuse me, Ed,
I think something relating to the GM search is important to post. Don’t you?
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Is it a GM Search or
a GM Non Search?
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
The way the Bears go?
They’ve got a searchlight, but someone threw a rock through it so it don’t light up.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
your boy Pompeii didn't really have much to say about the Bears GM situation either
you should send him an email.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Pompei's "my boy"?
Always good for a chuckle, Ed.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Well, to be fair
watching you guys line up on the ledge is how I get my jollies.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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but it is Sunday and they are not interviewing anyone today does that mean Ruskell will be the new GM ohs noes where is the ledge!
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
All hail the all knowing Ed.
You humble and grace us with your wisdom as always Oh annoying one.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
just download spongie's app Dave
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Why don't you try writing for WCG Ed?
Sounds like you think you’d be pretty good at it.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
that would cut into my bingo time Dave.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Of course he
will be the next GM. I think people here underestimate just how terribly run our organization is.
Ted Phillips is much more concerned with keeping his job than creating a championship team. He wants someone that isn’t going to make waves, that isn’t going to go overhead to ownership and cut him out of the pie.
Lovie Smith wants someone that will A. Do whatever he wants with personnel, and B. Won’t have enough cache to fire him after the season.
Virginia McCaskey wants someone that calls her ma’am and doesn’t cost any more money.
George doesn’t know enough to realize what an impossible situation he created, trying to find a GM that doesn’t mind being castrated by a sitting head coach, with a potentially lame duck team president and an ownership with a “cheap” reputation.
You know who the only candidate is that fulfills all those qualities? Tim Ruskell. Notice that none of those qualities include player personnel skills, drafting ability, and likelihood to build a annual contender? That’s because it isn’t a priority for our ownership or management. The reason Angelo (and Ruskell) draft for floor and not ceiling, is they draft for job preservation. You don’t get fired over mediocre draft picks, you get fired over busts. You have fewer busts (unless you are as incompetent as Angelo) if you draft for floor instead of ceiling.
When I heard that Angelo was fired, I was excited, as I thought maybe, just maybe George had the stones to overhaul this organization. But he doesn’t. This is soooooo depressing. If they hire Ruskell I might be done with the Bears.
OVERREACTION IS FUN
George doesn’t know enough to realize what an impossible situation he created, trying to find a GM that doesn’t mind being castrated by a sitting head coach, with a potentially lame duck team president and an ownership with a "cheap" reputation.
Yeah, it’s so much to ask him to use the coach they have signed up for 2 years and what, something like 11 mil?
Any new GM is going to have carte blanche to overhaul the entire coaching staff after the 2012 season if they see fit. Additionally, keeping Smith for a year allows the GM to get paid a little better than they would otherwise.
It’s not life ruining for any potential GM to have Smith for a year. Any failures of the team in that year aren’t going to be pinned on the GM, they’re going to be pinned on Smith. Then the GM gets to bring in his new guy, and you go from there.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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points
1. Lovie is owed 11 mil over the next 2 years. The Bears were 20 mil under the cap this year. If keeping Lovie and Phillips is going to hinder the GM search (which it already has, since DeCosta reportedly got turned off by the organizational structure), then that 11 mil should not be a factor.
2. You don’t know whether the new GM will have carte blanche to fire Lovie after the season. Lovie seems to have Virginia’s ear, and she may tell the team to keep him regardless.
3. Having Smith as a coach doesn’t ruin anything in and of itself. Having the appearance of an organization run by idiots acting out of self-preservation does. Any organization that would consider hiring Ruskell, considering his track record, doesn’t have winning as it’s first priority.
are any of the above points true?
just saying
1. 11 million dollars is 11 million dollars and do we have any proof that keeping Lovie and Phillips is whuy DeCosta is not interested
2. seems to have Virginia’s ear? have you seen the two of them talking secretively?
3 speculation and personal bias?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
Oh, c'mon - EVERYONE knows that Virginia McCaskey only wants someone to call her ma'am...
….and she doesn’t care at all about football. Heck, I’ll bet she can’t even remember who Richard Dent is.
/sarcasm off
Seriously, you’re a better man than I for even considerately responding to tripe like that.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
decosta
reportedly turned down the bears because they have a reputation of being cheap, and because the organizational structure is screwy. He was ok with lovie.
reported by who exactly?
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
then why did he turn down
The rams and the colts… He declined to interview anywhere because he wanted to stay in Baltimore.
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 3:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Correct Sir ^^^^
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 8, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry no
decosta stayed because he likes balt (has turned down numerous GM jobs in the past), was told he is next in line for GM there AND got a raise (according to one of the ESPN guys schefter of clayton cant recall who)…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Oh good lord the groupthink on this message board kills me.
“The source said DeCosta was interested in the Bears because of the team’s tradition and his love of Chicago. And he was not turned off by coach Lovie Smith already being in place.
There were some concerns about the structure of the organization, however, and the team’s budgetary reputation."
Neither of us knows him
but I really doubt he based his career decision on one incident last year by the former GM, who is obviously no longer with the Bears.
What do I think?
The more things change, the more they stay the same
Lovie’s input should be solely on spotting the same errors by JA and avoid them; instead I bet his cronyism is now spreading from assistants to upper management too. If Philips and the McCaskeys are buying this, then maybe they should just leave and put the team on sale, because they simply don’t give a flying f- about winning.
If Ruskell signs, I hope the Bears tank big time, and spend the next few years sweeping the bottom of the NFC-N, continue to draft players one round above their value (except the fifth rounders) and the Bears become as profitable as an NHL team in Louisiana.
Not sure who all is on the Bears "Radar" for a GM,
But think this guy’s name has been mentioned…. guess we can cross him off now too….
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Why? He turned down the Colts, not us.
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by badsamaritan on Jan 8, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I just read into it he's not looking to leave NE...
Could be wrong, just the way I read it….
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
= from Seattle =
Ruskell destroyed the Seahawks ’05 Super Bowl team. Drafted terribly, signed terrible free agents.
And that roster was basically built by Ted Thompson, who was the Seahawks vice president from 2000 to 2004. Yeah… Thompson is current general manager of the PACKERS!!!
Ruskell was replaced by John Schneider, Thompson’s right-hand man in Green Bay. Schneider, current Seahawks GM is a much younger(40), white version of “Reggie McKenzie.”
Why does his color matter?
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Tim Ruskell is like a white Jerry Angelo
Or so I’ve heard…
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 12:16 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
it doesnt
he saying he’s the white version. theres two versions ones white and ones black.
what do you mean you people!!!
It does seem a bit discomforting to see that Indianapolis
will have interviewed 7 candidates by Monday night and meanwhile, the Bears are staying strangely silent…
I believe the had said Ryan Grignon from the Eagles organization was going to interview (but not sure if he was or when he will)
and they “thouroughly vetted” (whatever that means) Les Snead from the Falcons….
Hello?? They sent him to the veternarian. Duh!
//sarcasm off//
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Ok lets be real here fellas .....
…… DeCosta was never leaving the Ravens & McKenzie was seemingly not going anywhere but the Raiders so exactly how did we miss out on these guys ? One opted to stay somewhere he loves & the other took one interview before saying yes . Ruskell will not be our next GM unless we get turned down by , well everybody . I still think Les Snead will be our next GM , but until the Falcons are out of the playoffs I doubt we will get the chance to interview him . So get your panties out of a bunch and chill out , unless this happens in which case wad those panties all you like .
And heres your definition of vetted …….
Vetted – 1.Make a careful and critical examination of (something).
2.Investigate (someone) thoroughly, esp. in order to ensure that they are suitable for a job requiring secrecy, loyalty, or trustworthiness.
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 8, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions
Except Les Snead has interviews set next week with the Rams and Colts
Yet in Chicago there is dead silence. The only interview I’ve heard that might have been set up is with the gentleman from the Eagles, Grigson. And with that, comes no known appointment. Nothing scheduled.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
This afternoon
but until the Falcons are out of the playoffs
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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See so we're waitin till tomorrow to interview our new GM ....
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 8, 2012 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Question
Do the Bears really have to wait until a team is out of the playoffs before interviewing someone in their front office?
Didn’t the Raiders just hire Reggie McKenzie who works for the Packers.
Teams must get permission to speak to .....
….. potential canidates , but as long as said team approves then na you ain’t gotta wait . Honestly I’d kinda like them to take some time and get the right guy late than the wrong guy early .
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 9, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
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Why the hell ain't the Bears making a move for the guy they want!?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Les Snead isn't the guy they want.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I wonder who the front runner to get the GM job that is from outside the organization is, then?
Maybe it’s Grigson, since he’s the 1 guy I’ve seen “set” for an interview. Or maybe it’s someone that has yet to be identified. Hopefully, Marc Ross will get his bid.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
He's always been in play this entire time.
I’m guessing he’s going to get it too. This is what the Bears do. One step forward and two steps back.
by PolishSausage.Ditka.Bears. on Jan 8, 2012 11:23 AM CST reply actions
so would that make the Bears
like MC Skat Kat?
When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 12:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Only one way the Bears will ever field a Superbowl winning team.............
And that is if the entire McCaskey family takes their limo off the highest cliff in the land. Crude I know but until they no longer have control, this will continue to be a “yes man” front office. Before a new outside GM is selected and expected to be successful, LOVIE MUST GO!!! Until all those criteria are met, expect more of the same.
Sure, everybody knows that...
Just like there’s NO WAY that the Rooneys will ever win a Super Bowl without Chuck Noll.
And Tom Benson will never win the Big Game, either.
Common knowledge.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
He's gonna get the jorb
And Fans will be incredibly pissed
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Especially since not one "candidate" has been brought in or even scheduled for an interview. They're "appeasing" fans by pretending to do their diligence on prospective guys but we all know where this is headed.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 8, 2012 11:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's kinda strange since by the rules, they must at least interview somebody before the job
The Rooney Rule comes to mind.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
They could interview Lovie and simultaneously piss off their fans and appease the rule
Sounds like a McCaskey move to me.
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I on the other hand am a fully rounded human being with a degree from the University of Life, a diploma from the School of Hard Knocks, and three gold stars from the Kindergarten of Getting the Shit Kicked out of Me.
Tim Ruskell
No,no,no,no and another no , to Tim Ruskell as Bears GM. The front office has got to know better than to hire him and make Bears fans HIGHLY dissatisfied !
You forget
This is the bears front office…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
And?
You act like this would be some sort of surprise. They are a money first team. The upper management and owners are as tight as any owners I have seen in the NFL in some time. It’s not like we are talking about Dan Snyder here. I know the Redskins are unsuccessful, but at least that owner is willing to spend money. They will do anything to save a buck. They know no one will jump ship as a fan of the Bears (which is sad and disappointing, because this will continue). They know it’s not a good decision, that’s what they are counting on. They aren’t in it to win it, look at the offensive line. How many years now have the fans been complaining about that? Who did they pick to fix that? Frank Omiyale (false start aficionado)? Chris Williams (already an injury concern and not a top choice as a left tackle)? They finally saved a little face this year with Carimi I believe, but after that many bad decisions one good decision doesn’t save your reputation that much. It’s like putting a bandaid on a gaping gunshot wound. Until they can pick someone who will gut the talent evaluation staff and make choices based on need things aren’t going to ever get better for this organization. Let’s see what they do, but my guess is (if my years as a Bears fan serve me correctly) they will pick Angelo Jr. as the GM. After all, Tice is not an offensive coordinator and they moved him from coaching linemen into that position. Anything to save a buck.
skjensen Sean Jensen
#Bears have not interviewed anyone yet. But, league sources tell me that #Bears president Ted Phillips has been burning the phone lines
42 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Wonder if nobody is returning his calls?
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
They can't call back, he burned the lines
Accountants are very literal people.
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I on the other hand am a fully rounded human being with a degree from the University of Life, a diploma from the School of Hard Knocks, and three gold stars from the Kindergarten of Getting the Shit Kicked out of Me.
I read that as he just started calling people 42 seconds ago
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jan 8, 2012 12:13 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ah, he must have read WCG
Cause Teddy I got news for you, WE’RE ON TO YA SON!!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Can anyone figure out who he is calling?
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
How about Chicago Unos?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Geo should have Jimmy John's do the GM search
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
PHEW, Well that makes me feel a lot better
(sarcasm)
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
skjensen Sean Jensen
Sheesh. I sense a strong anti-Tim Ruskell sentiment. He’s not been eliminated from contention, but focus is on outside candidates
He just sensed that?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
But some of us
were just starting to let the hate flow through us in preparation of ruskell being named GM…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I read the article in its brief entirety. I don't know if there is enough to justify (at least for myself) a panic attack.
I am wholly against Tim Ruskell, but not sure that I am worried about him being hired just yet.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
Maybe I was wrong about Ted Phillips
In my post the other day, at least he wants to bring in outside candidates!!
Jay Cutler is still my quarterback.
Formerly GallopingGhost
by Sam Householder on Jan 8, 2012 12:37 PM CST reply actions
Lets get this straight...
1) Fire GM – check.
2) Retain Head Coach – check.
3) Hire O-line Coach as OC – check.
What prospective GM candidate worth a damn would walk into this mess?
Answer: Absolutely Nobody!
Personally, I like keeping Tice ahead of keeping Lovie, but not necessarily as OC. But making that announcement is the last straw. The Bears are Nucking Futs!!!
Excuse me, I must pack my things. I’ll be living in the forest for the next 20 years…
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"
Mess?
Hire O-line coach who was also a head coach and had a hand in some prolific offenses….McKenzie went with the raiders under the same situation where Jackson was retained. What Gm wouldnt want to go to a team a cpl pieces away from being scary with the right FA signings and good draft
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by EmmCeee on Jan 8, 2012 1:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It's not WHO they locked in that bothers me...
It’s that they locked ANYBODY in before interviewing candidates…
Has any other team in history done this before? – It just seems absurd to me.
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"
Not the end of the world
If it eventually happens. As long as he’s signed to a two-year deal so he’s tied to Lovie, what’s the big deal?
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The big deal is general continued decline for two more years....
…while wasting away the last few years of Brian Urlacher, as well as wasting two years of Jay Cutler and Julius Peppers.
Ruskell can’t even fill Angelo’s shoes.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
That's just opinion
We don’t know what will happen.
What we do know is we have the pieces in place for a team that can make the playoffs (especially with our schedule next season). It would take a monumental screw up not to get a few basic complimentary pieces to push the team to the next level.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I was prepared – not wanting or liking it but prepared for another season of Angelo and Martz. They’re gone. That’s a step up. Even if we get Ruskell – and I again stress the only way I’d be okay with that if it was a short-term deal and he was tied to Lovie (because wouldn’t a new GM want to bring his own guys like that in as well?).
I don’t want Ruskell building the Bears from scratch – I’d be up on the ledge with everyone else were that the case. But I just don’t see the reasoning for such doom and gloom overreactions at the mere rumor that this might maybe possibly be the case.
In short, in life, as in a foot-ball game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard; don't foul and don't shirk, but hit the line hard!" Theodore Roosevelt
by LRT on Jan 8, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
You don't want Ruskell building the Bears from scratch....
….but if he doesn’t build an OL, find impact WRs and start rebuilding the Bears defense, what do you think will happen? Really?
Ruskell was mediocre, at best, in Seattle. The Seahawks made the Super Bowl in 2005 when he started drafting for them, and they progressed to total SUCKAGE during his tenure. His best draft pick may’ve been Chris Spencer, because Lofa Tatupu is crap now. He’s also the guy who let Hutchinson leave to Minnesota – goodbye Shaun Alexander, hello Adrian Peterson.
So if he becomes GM of the Bears, the same thing happens. The Bears decline, Urlacher retires, Peppers and Cutler age 2 years of their prime while watching the team regress, and then the Bears have to clean house and start all over anyway.
It would take a monumental screw up not to get a few basic complimentary pieces to push the team to the next level.
Hyperbole.
No, it would only take mediocre drafting and signing the wrong free agents. And that’s exactly Ruskell’s history.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
I've been mildly defending, or at least trying to understand, the moves made by the Chicago Bears recently
But if they hire Tim Ruskell, I’ll have to take a break from the NFL for a few years, and concentrate on my origami or learning the constellations or something.
I lived in Seattle, and I know first-hand both the milquetoast drafting that Ruskell did as well as the contempt the fans in Seattle had for him.
There was absolutely NO reason to fire Jerry Angelo if they, in turn, hire Tim Ruskell. Absolutely none. The guy doesn’t draft as good as Angelo, and Angelo also brought in Cutler and Peppers.
Please, no.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 1:55 PM CST reply actions
If Ruskell is hired...
I believe my next hobby will be underwater basket weaving.
This smells the same as the search for OC.
They want Ruskill and are just attempting to cloak their true intentions to avoid angering the fans. They will fail. The Bears will remain mediocre until the ownership changes, period.
It could be Ryan Grigson... Interview scheduled... Has history with Lovie
I wouldn’t mind Grigson. As long as it’s not Ruskell.
Link
dont mind this either
The Eagles have at least been capable of helping draft impact guys like Desean, McCoy, Maclin. I know their defense hasn’t been too good but that’s why Lovie is here right (sarcasm)
why then?
Did we fire JA? Ruskell is a hand picked successor and if the Bears want true change maybe its time to restrict Lovie. He is a poor clock manager and coach manager with an.inferiority complex. Why isnt Ron Rivera the DC? Why is he on his 4th OC?
Talent evaluation is a major concern but so is personell decision making. We need a real deal GM who.thinks in terms of longevity. Look to Eagles, Patriots, GB, Giants, and Ravens for scouting directors. Our drafts suck our FA PICKS are usually past prime.
Ruskell was fired and Seattle is still set back for 2 or more years…
Looks like my wish has a chance of coming true
Marc Ross identifyied as a candidate for Bears GM job:
Sean Jensen’s of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that New York Giants Director of College Scouting, Marc Ross, is being looked at for the Chicago Bears General Manager position.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions
I hope they can find room for him
in the crowded appointment book with all the interviews they’re doing….
Oh wait….
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
lol seriously
but i’d be perfectly happy with this guy.
See now everything is starting to work itself out ......
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 8, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I believe he has already had an interview with the Seahawks
Draft-wise, Marc Ross makes complete sense. And, he’s been working with a rather good GM in Reese for a while now.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
And is not a Seahawk ....... Seems like he may be waiting for something better ......
" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Jan 8, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions
That could be true
Although whomever takes the job in Seattle will likely be stuck with Pete Carroll as the HC.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I thought you
were on sundquist…..
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
I still am hoping for Sundquist as an alternative
But, I’ve heard zero talk about him getting so much as an interview right now. And Marc Ross is a young candidate who is on the rise.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
That
Or Megatron
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
after Lions playoff game...
What are the odds of Lions letting Megatron leave?
The odds
were 0% even before that game. No chance he leaves, regardless of his contract demands. He might be the best WR EVER, and is certainly the most uncoverable player in football today. They aren’t going to let him get away.
Okay, so the candidates have been/will be from...
…Packers, Ravens, Giants, Eagles….
Why no New England nor Pittsburgh employees? If not only for the interviews?
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 4:24 PM CST reply actions
Oh, and I forgot the Denver connection...Sundquist
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yep, forgot him too.
All in all, very successful ballclubs.
But I would think some folks from NE and Pitt worthy of an interview, even if it’s a long-shot ala DeCosta.
by Sweetness Lives On on Jan 8, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Arizona- Scott Keim
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by Joeb'n777 on Jan 8, 2012 5:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nobody looks good from NE outside their DPP
Who has already stated like DeCosta, he will remain with his franchise. Apparently he was the Colts’ #1 choice for GM. The Steelers, on the other hand, is a good question.
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
i remember kevin colbert
of the steelers was a rumored GM option for us a few years when lovie + angelo were on the hot seat again. But i think he finally got promoted to GM recently (first GM steelers have had, surprisingly) after being director of football operations.
Do we even have an interview set with him?
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by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I mean it could be Les Snead whom the Bears are targetting
But it could also be Marc Ross, Ryan Grigson, or perhaps Ted Sundquist.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
If ted sundquist
is named the GM of the Bears I will walk from here (Ft Sill OK) to Chicago Bare foot….Not because I would be happy (personally be meh on that hire) but I just cant see it happening……
"Outside of the sacks we have one of the better Offensive Lines in the NFL....."
- Jerry Angelo on the Offensive Line
Ehh...I'll remember that statement haha
And albeit it’s been silent with him, for him to be the one guy who is known to have been contacted by Ted Phillips, is very suspicious.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
I know I don't know as much about stuff as Ed but
I did call this move in a previous thread. I think it’s gonna happen sometime late this week. Just a gut feeling based on this coaching staff’s history of sticking with the familiar. I know Ed, I’m only basing it on junk and stuff. Can’t site sources and I obviously don’t “know” as much about this as “experts”. But I feel I’m entitled my opinion. And even the media is allowed to speculate based on trends and rumors. Sorry it offends you so much.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
ESP
evidently you guys have it and I don’t. I can’t pluck answers out of the aether and have to rely upon facts and what people actually say and not the endless speculation of sports writers.
To believe that the world is always ruled by peoples most base instincts and especially your favorite sports team seems a disappointing way to go through life. You can just take for granted that the worst you can think of is probably true.
waiting to see what happens is no longer an option, gotta jump on the rumor and speculation wagon and form an opinion now rather than waiting for the facts to come to light. How dare anyone suggest differently.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
--Doug Plank
But that's just it Ed
you act like you have all the answers. We’re having a conversation and you’re telling us we’re being stupid.
Me- Gee Steve, what do you think the Bears will do?
Steve- Hmmm, Dave, I don’t know, maybe they’ll go with Ruskell. What do you think?
Ed- You guys are morons and no one cares what you think.
Above all; keep 'em guessing, never let them lose their sense of confusion.
I never knew that someone saying Ruskell is an option meant he's MY option or that I'm just here to scare the daylights out of people.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 9, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
No that's not it
but it is a perfect example of how some people twist things, and make things up, and misrepresents other people.
and deserve to be called out for it.
. "Most football teams are temperamental. That's 90% temper and 10% mental."
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