NFC Wild Card: Atlanta At New York Open Thread
by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 12:00 PM CST
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So after last night's games, we get another couple pretty good matchups. First up, an Atlanta team that thought all they needed to draft last year was a receiver and a punter takes on the Giants, surviving the cluster that was the NFC East. Matt Ryan goes for his first playoff win against a quarterback that's won (read: helped win) it all.
This is your Open Thread - we'll have one more for the second game. As always, Open Thread Responsibly (TM).
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Just so everyone is clear
Had the Bears stayed on their projected path (ie, no loss of Cutler), the Bears would be taking on this Giants team that just snuck into the playoffs by barely winning their division.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Just so this is clear
That really doesn’t make me feel any better.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
It was supposed to make you feel worse.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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It worked!
Thanks a bunch!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Eli Manning just looks slight.
Nothing about his frame really suggests NFL QB to me.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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You and I have different definitions of helluva.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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i guess
if you just look at a couple games but as whole he is. not really any doubt about it
I've never considered him as anything more than largely above average. I would say his stats support that.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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then we do have different definitions of helluva
im not saying hes a top 5 guy. but id put him in the top ten, for awhile now. legit top ten qbs are hard to come by
In my opinion
there are currently four helluva QBs—Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning, and I dunno if Manning will be a helluva QB anymore.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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FYI
Via Jensen
#Bears have not interviewed anyone yet. But, league sources tell me that #Bears president Ted Phillips has been burning the phone lines.
Know this: #Bears aren’t going to rush this process. They haven’t hired a GM in 11 years, so they want to make sure they get the right guy
NO THEY HAVE TO HIRE SOMEONE RIGHT AWAY OMG WHY ARE THEY WAITING
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Why?
To have interviews just to have interviews?
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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or have been able to convince one to come and interview
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
It's been five days.
The number of decent candidates outweighs the number of potential job openings.
Why do people insist it’s something that has to happen right away?
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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IT MEANS DEY DON HAVE NO PLAN
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
I was wondering where you were.
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Don't look at me, I've been laying in bed distracted by Okamiden and football.
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by Steven Schweickert on Jan 8, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
it doesnt
but come on. you just fire someone without even thinking about some candidates that your considering for the job. and i mean more than two guys. and if they did why not get them in to interview. nobody has a gun to ur head forcing you to hire them right away.
i dont see how you cant see that
I know what you're saying
but that’s not the only way to play the game. There’s all kinds of factors.
1. What kind of guy are you looking for?
2. You have to fulfill Rooney Rule requirements.
3. Are their preferred guys on a team that’s still playing right now?
You have to keep in mind, while the beat guys are pretty good at finding out who gets contacted by who, they don’t get them all. I saw a tweet from Jensen earlier indicating that Phillips is blowing up phones around the league, so it’s not like they’re just sitting around with their thumbs up their butts.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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after the debacle which was the search for the last OC
and pretty much how lovie has hired every coach on the team.i just dont have a lot faith in them bringing in anyone but one of Lovies drinking buddies.
i'm not
just felt like it helped complete the thought.. But don’t get upset with the uneasiness there is. Oakland poached quickly, other teams may or may not be more appealing, and then we have tim ruskell on staff. the longer the bears wait, rightly or not, the more uncertain our future looks, and tim ruskell is on staff.
i’m having faith that a new chairmen is taking lead and changing the direction of the team. and that it obviously takes time to hire someone that is going to direct the team for hopefully years and years to come. but its uncertain as to what happens, and we have tim ruskell on payroll.
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
This game is already terrible.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Yup the pack are probably salivating at the opportunity to play one of these teams.
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
already expecting it
Falcons are crappy away, and the Giants are only here because every team in that division is run by assholes.
And THEN a 3 and out!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I don't hate both of these teams, but I really dislike both of them
not sure who to cheer for. Or against.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Faux John Madden @FauxJohnMadden
The start of this game has as much excitement as Joe @Buck’s commentary.
joe buck put a crackhead to sleep
Tony
by chitown-tony on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM CST via Android app reply actions
From Kev on Twitter....
I think Drew Brees just threw another TD against the Lions during this Giants-Falcons TV timeout
Nice!
That was just a RT.
But thanks.
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Are the Falcons stupid?
I think they’re stupid.
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FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden
When you’re short on a 4th down… Well.. That’s probably not going to be enough for a 1st down.
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Safety! Way to go mouth-breather!
by frenchbears113 on Jan 8, 2012 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's the safety dance
it’s the safety dance!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I thought that's what Lovie does
with the Bear’s secondary?
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thought this was a later game...
That being said, it doesn’t look like I missed much of anything…
2 to zip
AWESOME GAME!!!!! WOOOO HOOOO!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Hot Damn that is one awesome clip
from one awesome movie!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
skjensen Sean Jensen
34-yard run by Brandon Jacobs. I’m sure h’ll need the rest of the quarter off.
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These twitter folk sre on fire today
by frenchbears113 on Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So I hear Brandon Jacobs is a FA this year
Any buyers on him as a 3rd down back? I seem to remember him doing a number on the Packers the last time those two teams played.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:08 PM CST reply actions
I would imagine the Giants would retain him.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Speaking about the Giants
Is anyone interviewing Marc Ross, the Giants’ DPP right now? I think the Seahawks interviewed him last week, but other than that I’m not sure
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know. Let me call and ask him.
He said no.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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did you tell him that it would be awesome if he did interview with us?
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
but he’s still pretty mad at me for sleeping with his wife.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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c’mon man, keep it in ur pants. we’re tryin to build a championship team here..
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
That's the thing about these middle-aged women
I get older, they start to not look half-bad.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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it must be rough dealing with your rapidly increasing age.. i forgive you, and understand.. just a lil disappointed cause you know how important this was to us..
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
I've been generally accepting the fact that Giants probably win this game.
I don’t think the Falcons are mentally tough enough for it.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Good
I think they have the better chance of knocking out gb.
48 minutes of intensity
by dsenchi on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think, really
New Orleans is the one true opponent that GB needs to worry about.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I've been saying that for weeks
You should have cited me in this post to give me proper credit.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
I've been saying it since week 1.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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Oh shoot
Ok, I’ll go back and edit my posts then, footnoting ‘Kev H’ for proper attribution
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Haha, not necessary.
Realistically, though, the Saints are the only team that moves the ball like Green Bay does. It’s a hard fact to dispute.
Plus, their coach is crazy enough to try the unorthodox thing that could put them over the edge.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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I think so as well
even with the dreaded ‘weather factor’ (which I hear about constantly by the experts on my teevee), I think the Saints and Brees are at the top of their offensive game. So is Rodgers, but both defenses are sucketh royale. Should be an awesome game if it happens.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
i dont know if i trust the saints offense in green bay, or their defense versus GB’s.. 49ers defense i trust tho..
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
The Saints offense did pretty ok
on opening night. Granted, it’ll be colder, but cold doesn’t defeat talent. Cold only defeats the mental aspect, and I think New Orleans can handle that.
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Realistically, the Packers don't gain that much from playing in Lambeau
any more than the Bears do from playing at Soldier Field. For starters, they only play half their games there, and secondly, it’s not like they’re training like Balboa in Rocky IV—if it’s shitty outside, they’ll practice inside like most other teams.
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They're also not playing
Ivan Drago hopped-up on steroids!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
right, but its still a mental hurdle they have to deal with. Even if they deal well with its stiill on their minds, plus its motivation for the packers defense.. but i think it still is about the defense. both d’s are bad, but the saints seems alot worse
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
The Packers were dead last in yards allowed.
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right,
i feel both are equally terrible, but with the home field, in winter against a southern pass happy offense, would elevate the gb defense mentally. so i trust gb’s d over the saints.
i just envision the game alot like yesterday’s, with detroit being the saints, and new orleans being green bay
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
and as crappy
as alex smith is, if mccown can move the ball on the pack, you would assume he and Gore could do some damage
by GtM on Jan 8, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Talk about if you want.
John McClain @McClain_on_NFL
The Texans have given Tampa Bay permission to interview defensive coordinator Wade Phillips for their vacant head coaching job
Not really that pertinent to the Bears.
But interesting enough. Don’t think he’ll do any better in TB than he did in Dallas.
Took the 'G' out your waffle, all you got left is your Ego.
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For a minute there, I thought the name on the Tweet was John McCain...
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Nah.... cause then the tweet would look like this....
The Texans have given Tampa Bay permission to interview defensive coordinator Wade Phillips for their vacant head coaching job Yippe Ki Ya Mother Fucker
by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just hoping to see Mike Martz go to the NYJ
That would be hilarious!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
At least then I get to see Sanchez all beat up.
"You have a young group and if they start feeling too good about themselves, that’s not a good thing. So it’s my job not to let them. So probably they will hate me. But that’s OK too. My wife hates me and she’s still married to me." - Mike Tice
this...game....is....soo.....
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…………….huh?!……oh, yeah…..so, uh, boring! zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Prov 6: 21 - 22
That's why I'm excited for it!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
You know your season is over when your looking at mock drafts during wildcard weekend.
I’m psyched for this draft, provided we hire a GM that knows what he’s doing.
Prov 6: 21 - 22
I like the idea of offense through FA, Defense through Draft myself.
I’d Like too see Colston come to town, then draft O-line, and LB or CB in the the 1 and 2. If we get those, then 3rd and beyond are gravy. plus, we have two third rounders!
I saw Mcnutt projected in the 3rd round, if we got Colston, and snagged mcnutt in the 3rd, I’d be super happy
Prov 6: 21 - 22
Well....
He may beast in the combine so we never know how things will play out.
by frenchbears113 on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McNutt will go earlier than that
not because he’s that awesome right now, but just because with his size he has lots of potential for some teams who don’t yet have that big-type of WR
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
hey, I can dream can't I?
I always get so excited I can never decide what I really want da Bears to do in FA/Draft. Fortunately (sorta) I can just leave it to them.
Prov 6: 21 - 22
My only point is that it will be hard to know how good McNutt could be
because of the QBs that he played with. Stanzi didn’t have that great of a year during McNutt’s junior year, and Vandenberg was just plain awful all year long. But I would be interested in seeing how McNutt would do if he had someone like Cutler throwing him the ball.
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
Matt Ryan overrated
More than sanchise…because everyone knows that sanchise sucks
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Matty Ice - What's cooler than being cool?
ICE COLD!
Alright alright alright alright alright!
I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something. - Dick Butkus
FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden
In Mike Smith’s defense, the QB sneak play almost always works on Madden.
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Speaking of which,
was I the only one that thought the saints looked like they were plying in madden, with all those 4th down calls?
Prov 6: 21 - 22
omg
Dirty Bird dance in the endzone..wow, Funny but wow..
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden
Hakeem Nicks just did the Dirty Bird since the Falcon players apparently don’t want to score today.
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by David in Maine on Jan 8, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
And to think
The Falcons traded all those picks to get Julio to beef up their offense…And they only have 2 points
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
The QB was and is their problem
Shame it took this for them to realize it. He’s not a big time QB
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
You could look at it as lose-lose
Or you could see that one of the teams you hate got eliminated, win-win… this beer is half full!
Blowout
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Maybe the Falcons should move outta the dome
And play OUTSIDE…Makes good practice since they suck outside
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Hey guys! Hey Guys!
I heard We fired Jerry Angelo!.
Whats more…..Martz is gone!
big news
Prov 6: 21 - 22
Lion Fans..
This is why Manning got voted into the Probowl over Stafford. One guy winning playoff games one not..
Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf
And the other didn't have to throw
Liek Stafford, On seemly EVERY DAMN PLAY! They use their WRs as RBs god goodness sakes
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Matt Ryan sucking HARD!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
So a complete lack of
personality and a dull sheen over your eyes makes you
a Matty Ice???
Wildcard BITCHES!!! Yeee-haaaaaw!!
That dude is driving a Cadillac on offense and always have
and still can’t get the job done. He’s overrated and next year the heat will finally be on him
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Flag on that tackle...
throwing to ground after whistle….
Same should’ve been called on Fairley last night….
FauxJohnMadden Faux John Madden
2-24 is not only the deficit the Falcons face right now, it’s also the projected passing line for Tim Tebow.
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So all I gather from this weekend so far
is that the Bears really blew a great opportunity because ATL and Detroit had no business in the playoffs and they weren’t a better team than a healthy Bears squad
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I wonder
If next year we’ll have the “Matt Ryan, all-pro QB” bandwagon again. How many playoffs game he’s going to blow before he’s taken down a notch or two ?
His last 2 playoff games weren't so good
But i was never on the Matty Ice bandwagon. I think hes on the same tier as Jay is, but by next year Jay will be in the same class as Brees and Rodgers
i like jay, but not sure about brees and rogers class
both have rings jay does not.. and I like ryan, but he does need to win a playoff game, but hasnt he played well in one of the three losses?
because TLR
I don't think he's anywhere near Jay
He’s Uber Orton or what Sam Braford would look like with weapons.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
CBS
Marino needs to do his work..he said Andre Johnson didnt play in texans last game, unless he ment last time they played ravens…cause he scored a td yesterday..
because TLR
We may have found a possible candidate for the Bears' GM job
Sean Jensen’s of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that New York Giants Director of College Scouting, Marc Ross, is being looked at for the Chicago Bears General Manager position.
Found this on giants101.com. Link is posted in Ruskell story.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Jan 8, 2012 3:28 PM CST reply actions
Maybe I'm drunk on Kool-aid
But am I the only one that thinks the Bears will fing a good GM and have a great FA signing? I think the Bears are going to be pretty good next year
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
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