Don't Forget the Backup QB
For all the off-season chatter that the Bears are just a wide receiver, real offensive line, and/or defensive end away from being a playoff team, we seem to have forgotten something: the Bears would have been in the playoffs if only they had a backup QB who could win just one game. One game! Thankfully, Phil Emery, Mike Tice, and Jeremy Bates have plenty of better-than-Hanie options on the free agency market. That said, getting a starting-grade backup at this most expensive of positions is going to limit the Bears' options when it comes to affording top-tier talent to fill our other positions of need. So, I put the question to you, WCG faithful: should we spend the coin on a real backup quarterback, or save the cash for someone who will do more than hold a clipboard?
Before the poll, here's my take on either side of the issue.
Top-tier Backup
Pros: Simply put, there are plenty of free agent options - even good ol' Rex Grossman! - who would probably be better than Hanie. By spending a couple million to lock down the backup QB spot, the Bears can guarantee that if Jay Cutler can't suit up that they can still field a team capable of scoring points. Also, if the Bears go out and get one of the more grizzled veterans, there's a good chance he'll have a thing or two to show Jay Cutler other than whatever Tice and Company put on the clipboard.
Cons: Real players cost real money. We know the Bears have a decent chunk of change to spend in free agency. Any money the team invests in a backup QB, however, might end up being paid to a very expensive bench-warmer. It's important to note that before the thumb-pocalypse, Jay Cutler had only missed one start in his NFL career. Also, it might be a tough sell to bring a starting-grade QB into Chicago as a backup: if they think they are good enough to start in the NFL, they would probably look for a team who would give them the chance to play for the starting spot.
"Developmental" Backup
Pros: For one, a Hanie-esque backup will free up more money for the Bears to spend. The team can go out and surround Jay Cutler with better offensive line talent to keep him out of harm's way, and perhaps even find a wide receiver who won't fall down on his route and force Cutler to make a season-ending tackle. Also, as the Packers have proven, a developmental QB who develops starter-level skills can fetch a nice price on the trade market.
Cons: The obvious problem is that a developmental QB will still have to, well, develop. As Hanie showed, one decent half in the playoffs does not mean a QB is ready to start in the NFL. And, as Nathan Enderle showed, sometimes, the developmental guy is so bad the team won't even let him see the field. If the team doesn't get a real backup for Cutler, they are essentially betting that Cutler will play all season or that Jeremy Bates can work miracles.
With that said, which option do you like? Should the Bears spend a couple million on a solid backup option to Jay Cutler, or roll the dice on an unproven commodity and hope Cutler can return to his healthy ways?
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I think you just parted the sea
er…divided the pool into 2 rather different categories:
QB’s who cannot throw the ball
QB’s who can throw the ball well enough to start for the Redskins
Why not a McCown/Carr type guy?
has played and can still play fairly well…but won’t push too hard for a starting gig?
well, that's pretty much the options
It’s either another Hanie or someone who is a “passable” starter (all puns intended), right?
by Steve Ronkowski on Feb 17, 2012 7:26 AM CST up reply actions
McCown..
Never thought I’d say this without giggling/strangling myself when we first brought him in..but he’s a serviceable backup. No Cutty of course, but he fills the role quite well.
Problem is
He isn’t young.
And i feel like the Bears are going to have a more out of the pocket passing game more than ever.
Though i thought McCown did real nice last time he had to step up, after hanie, i don’t even trust my eyes anymore. I don’t know if he could do it again.
My pick ?
Dave Garrard.
Already has ties with Tice.
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I like Garrard.
Definitely an improvement over Mr. Deer in the Headlights.
by oripunk3485 on Feb 17, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Save the coins!
And sign sexy Rexy. His arm is a cannon!
(not a very accurate one, but hey.)
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From SI:
Well, so much for that. The Redskins’ struggles were not all Grossman’s fault, but he finished just 5-8 as the starter, with a whopping 25 turnovers (20 interceptions, five fumbles lost). He also took 25 sacks, compared to 16 touchdown passes.
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by crackedcactus on Feb 17, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
what about mccown?
he looked decent enough in his short tenure here. and by short I mean more than a quarter. he played his derriere off to prove he’s at least worthy of being a backup in the league, so why not here?
if not hit him, bring someone who’s already used to the meatheads. orkman is too expensive and can start elsewhere, but it is rumored captain neckbeard wants to dock in chicago again.
we could also sign sexy rexy again. if jay misses more games, we might get lucky and the sexy rexy rollercoaster is on the top, before plummeting into the ground.
by lmfsilva on Feb 16, 2012 10:41 PM CST via Android app reply actions
He'd still be no more than a third stringer.
Any roster should have a seasoned vet behind the franchise boy e.g. a Brian Griese. Garrard could do it. Sage Rosenfels might be better. Throwing a few million at Kyle Orton would be wishful thinking, but for a Billion dollar organization how can you afford not to? This year was a prime example – we only needed to win a couple more games and we were in. We had the defense to go places and Cutler may well have come back in. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
QB is the most important spot on the roster. Your backup is the second.
Except the money thrown at a guy that could potentially start somewhere
could come to bite us when in comes to signing starter free-agents. A quarter/half mil lost between signing a McCown and a Garrard or Rosenfels might make the difference between a WR coming here or going elsewhere, and since the team isn’t exactly known for their ability to work with receivers, we need all the “incentives” we can.
All I’m saying is that, considering McCown handled himself pretty well in his two starts against teams we will play 4 times this season, he deserves at least being penciled in while the splurges required are done. If by then there are better QBs on board, with some cap room, evaluate the risks.
A little more XP please.
I would hope that the veteran QB would be able to contribute more than clip board holding. Someone that can help Jay read defenses and share knowledge of teams’ tendencies.
We should also draft a developmental player to coach up. Guess who could help with that also?
(veteran QB)
Honestly I get the feeling that David Garrard will be a back up Bear soon ....
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by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 16, 2012 11:22 PM CST reply actions
McCown Echo
A lot depends on what happens in camp and preseason, but yes McCown would be a good choice. I think you could get him for a 2 year contract at a price just north of a million per year, and he would be worth it. Cutler probably wont have a season ending injury next season, but the odds go up quite a bit that he may have an injury that costs him 1-4 games. And in that circumstance you want the classically defined quality backup that can win half of those games and keep your team in the playoff hunt. The money has to be spent on that position, and the Bears would have to be truly dense not to have learned that lesson after last year.
by Corncob Justice on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 PM CST reply actions
Keep Hanie
I hate repeating myself, but he can’t be as bad as Martz made him out to be. We saw him good.
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by BearDownIsrael on Feb 17, 2012 12:57 AM CST reply actions
you Might Have A Point There
as much as I think Hanie sucks now I have read articles that say Martz hardly ever spent any time teaching him; even when Jay went down all Martz did was go through game film with him once and thats it.
I wish the Bears had never gotten Martz- he ruptured the offense and now it needs a major overhaul.
I don't see Orton signing to be Jay's backup
Who might though is Shaun Hill… and I think that would be a great pickup. Not only is he good, but that puts the Lions in a tough situation with the injury-prone Stafford and Drew Stanton as the backup.
I would like to bring McCown back
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Offense will change
The offense will change a little. I’m sure Tice will leave a lot of the plays that were successful and put in a few of his own design ideally less 7 step drops, so McCown is a viable option since he does have some familiarity with the players and some of the offense that will be implemented. Hopefully his price tag won’t be that much and possibly bring in a rookie in either the very late rounds of the draft or undrafted rookies to compete with Enderle to be developed behind him the backup. It would be nice to have someone to compete with McCown as well as long as it doesn’t break the bank, maybe Whitehurst from Seattle since he would be familiar with our QB coach, or some other backup QB with some playing time.
by Captain Kangaroo on Feb 17, 2012 1:41 AM CST reply actions
I think McCown...
has earned the right to compete for the back-up spot. He’s a perfect fit in the sense that he proved he can play well enough to win a game and he already knows most of the personnel involved. Last season should be proof enough that having BOTH a quality starter and quality back-ups at key positions is essential to winning games. I would prefer the Bears get a vet #2 (like McCown) AND a developmental guy at #3 in the late rounds of the draft or UDFA. There are always a handful of late-career and underachiever QBs who see a back-up spot as exactly what they want to further a career as a broadcaster or player/coach opportunity. There should be no problem finding a guy to fit the bill for both spots.
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I tend to agree
McCown showed that he should at least have the chance to play for a spot in camp. Plus, considering his last job was as a high school football coach, he should be willing to play for close to the veteran minimum.
by Steve Ronkowski on Feb 17, 2012 7:28 AM CST up reply actions
So what do we do with Enderle?
Throw him out on the street? Or give him the coaching he never had here and see what happens? I have a feeling he never really got the teaching he needed to truly develop and show his skills (y’know, with no offseason and all).
by NorthSideBearsFan on Feb 17, 2012 8:58 AM CST reply actions
I think he's practice squad eligible
he might slip through waivers…
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 17, 2012 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
So basically, he'll be nothing more than a camp body
Seems like another wasted draft pick to me.
by NorthSideBearsFan on Feb 17, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
They wasted a Roster spot on him last year. A wasted pick is no biggie.
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by Suffering from Chicago Sports on Feb 17, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
I'd like to see us make plays for Orton and Garrard (if healthy) as a #2.
Pay up. I’m not convinced our OL will even be average next year, so Cutler’s health is always a bad block away from disaster.
Third string? Development guy. Not Enderle. He likely won’t fit what we want to do moving forward, he was a Martz guy. I’d really like to grab someone like Russell Wilson if he fell to the 5th round or something. He’s be a 1st/2nd rounder if he were 4 inches taller.
Bring back Rex....
He’s younger than McCown (Who is 38, limited and is a Martz QB) and when Shanahan benched Rex, the entire Redskin offense wasn’t happy and went into the tank until he came back so the guy still has the trust of teammates wherever he goes.
And yet he still managed to suck it up! But I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him back as the #2 though
by frenchbears113 on Feb 17, 2012 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Actually McCown will be 34 this year
Still on the older end of things by football player standards but not quite the “hit the brick wall” age of 38. McCown probably has one or two years left IMO.
by themacattack on Feb 17, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
McCown still has some good mobility and arm strength despite his age so that isn't a big problem though.
Its not like digging up the immobile corpse of Todd Collins again.
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