The Bears Den: February 2, 2012

"...where we grow ever more uncomfortable with the image of a skinny, pasty-white guy posing on the carcass of a bear."
Emery believes that continuity is crucial Mayer: It's easy to understand why new general manager Phil Emery feels that continuity is the biggest difference between today's Bears and the same organization he left in 2004.
Lombardi: Smith-Emery Marriage Will Be ‘Difficult’ WSCR: With Emery forced to retain head coach Lovie Smith, the two will have no choice but to work together.
Boley's success should be no surprise Pompei: Emery spotted the New York Giants linebacker's coverage ability as a scout for the Atlanta Falcons in 2005.
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Phil Emery’s daughter changed the way new Bears GM scouts the world Jensen: While he revels in scouring the country searching for NFL stars, Emery cherishes his moments with his daughter.
Pompei: Bears Can’t Let Forte Hit Free Agency On Tuesday, Bears president Ted Phillips said the Bears have no plans of letting Matt Forte go via free agency. While the two sides have had no recent discussions on a long-term contract, the franchise tag appears to be the way the Bears are leaning.
Receiver Floyd likes idea of playing for Bears McClure: Some draft experts believe Michael Floyd could be selected by the Bears with the 19th overall selection. Such a scenario would suit the former Notre Dame receiver just fine. Healthy Floyd gearing up for combine
Jensen: Trade Briggs For Umenyiora? Sean Jensen joined The Boers and Bernstein Show to discuss the possibility of trading Briggs to the New York Giants in exchange for Osi Umenyiora. Big Decision: Lance Briggs
Jeff George thinks he can still play Moon: If the Bears are still in the market for a backup quarterback, Jeff George will take your call. Carr to Bears: Invest in proven backup QB
Bowen breaks down offensive prospects Video: Matt Bowen joined David Kaplan to breakdown three offensive prospects from the Senior Bowl this past weekend.
A different view of Belichick Most fans know Bill Belichick from the noncommittal, bland persona he exhibits at news conferences, but PFW's Hub Arkush says there's much more to the Patriots' head coach.
Late-game field goal attempts in playoffs put more pressure on kickers Trotter: Of the 18 podiums constructed for media day at Super Bowl XLVI on Tuesday, none was reserved for a kicker.
Marvin Gaye get's it on:
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Yeah basically "strong arm, but something will always be missing"
Isn’t George like 50 something?
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Sure did.
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by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/101028&sportCat=nfl
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
Jensen is dumb for even suggesting a trade for Umenorya
Briggs is still making pro-bowls and Osi is on his way out
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I agree
Personally, I don’t believe Lance Briggs is moving anywhere this year.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
I don't either.
If he did, the coaching staff must really think Nick Roach & JT Thomas are ready for the big time… Which I don’t think either are.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 2, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
If anything
I think JT Thomas will compete if not start at SLB this year. I remember him getting the snaps at 1st string SLB while Briggs was out with an injury during the preseason. I like JT Thomas, but more so as a SLB than a WLB.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Its alittle early to be making predictions about JT Thomas dont ya think?
and what about Jabara Williams?
I'm high on him in a couple years
might be slightly better version of Nick Roach
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It would give the dline a legit player though but it would create another hole at LB
by frenchbears113 on Feb 2, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Ehh
I think Umenyiora is best suited for the 3rd “swing” DE position at this point in his career… Bears don’t need another swing DE they already have two in Izzy and Wootton
SLB is already a weakness, why create two LB holes ? ya know..
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Yeah LB's are thin enough as it is on this roster so I agree.
by frenchbears113 on Feb 2, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions
LB's are easier to find, right?
Easier to find than pass rushing DE’s anyway. Umenyiora and Briggs are at a similar point in their careers, age wise. I think it could work for both teams, Osi is a better player than you might realize, He gets to the QB, especially in big spots in big games. Better than you might think against the run and check out his forced fumbles stats for his career. In that regard he’s like the Charles Tillman of DE’s. Briggs would be missed, but I’d take this trade
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There is one issue with Osi
His health. He’s missed a number of games recently due to injuries, and I have a suspicion that Pierre-Paul will eventually be the primary pass rusher (if he already isn’t) where Osi will be replaced by another young talent.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
If you trade a player the caliber of Lance Briggs, you do so to invest in the future, to rebuild.
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Exactly
if they can get Osi and a 2nd AND 3rd round pick or something.. Then do it, but not a straight up trade
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders
It's all about THE []_[] baby!!!
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Bears do need DE help
But why not try to address DE needs in free agency or the draft. It doesn’t make much sense to trade away a core player for another need, you’d just need to replace Briggs somehow anyway.
Can you smell that smell?
And by that I mean the combine/draft/free agency craziness scent. McClure’s coverage of Floyd is probably the start of a long, detailed media evaluation of him.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
No, sorry that was nail polish remover.
I accidently spilled some on this site.
Anyone know if Boley will be a FA or not this year?
I’d like to see him line-up as the SLB next season in Chicago if at all possible. And, if he is available, then I believe Emery will target him, being Boley is viewed as one of his best picks.
Speaking of Phil Emery, I’m nearly finished with the next fantastic edition of FA Extravaganza, and I’ve already got two players I think he will target in FA: WR Dwayne Bowe and CB Brandon Carr. To me, it all depends on who gets the tag and who doesn’t. If Boley is a FA, then add him to the list as well.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 7:36 AM CST reply actions
Boley will be a Free Agent in 2014.
Maybe you could save your next fantastic edition of ‘FA Extravaganza’ until then.
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by Pete Dixon on Feb 2, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lolol
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Nah...
I’ll just not include Boley in the list. The show must go on!
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
This is good
Might use it for a future quote….If you dont mind that is…..
"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."
- NEW Bears GM Phil Emery on evaluating NFL talent
by CloudyFuture on Feb 2, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
It seems like the media has already "crowned Floyds @$$" as
The 19th pick
by Joeb'n777 on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 AM CST via mobile reply actions
If it were between him and Mike Adams.... I'd go Adams.
by frenchbears113 on Feb 2, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty much my thought too.
But then again… I think we’ll move up in the second anyhow.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 2, 2012 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
do you know of any good writeups on Adams?
I’m looking at his profile on nfl.com, and he doesn’t look that exciting. They give him a 54.0 grade and mark him down for some off-field stuff, not “playing with fire,” and the like. It’d be nice to see more on him.
At the Senior Bowl practices he looked good and in the actual game he was shutting down almost everything that came his way. He looked nimble and quick on his feet and his technique was solid.
Here’s some info on him from SBN
Ohio State OT Mike Adams has a real presence about him. He’s a big kid with a long set of arms and when he shoots his hands inside on contact, he has the ability to control blocks and slide his feet through the play. However, the only time he gets himself into trouble is when he doesn’t extend his arms and looks to catch opposing lineman at the point. Nevertheless, the talent is there for this guy to be a top-20 pick.
I’m trying to link some stuff but my work computer is not working so well but he did shut down Coples in the game and Coples is a consensus top-10 pick.
Here is the link from NFP…
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=35913
Also, just because Tice said that Webb is the starter doesn’t mean that he won’t take a good look at a player who is a definite upgrade over Webb.
by frenchbears113 on Feb 2, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Here's a comparison for you
From Rotoworld
Ohio State’s Mike Adams (6-7/323) is another player that let me down but in an expected way: Inconsistency. Adams looks great one snap, stoning the pass rusher’s upfield momentum and readjusting hand placement to stay balanced. On the next, Adams will get completely overmatched, either with a quick inside rush or by losing leverage on a counter move. Adams has truly been a conundrum with inconsistent posture and contact. For a big body, Adams is quite soft. He has been tried across the line without a glaring fit, which may worry teams (e.g. Chris Williams of the Bears).
Not saying i agree or disagree. He did impress me with his performance in the actual game, however that should be taken for what its worth. Its also a bit concerning to see a Ohio State fan (gag) saying things like this about him:
I don’t understand the love for AdamsThat from Buckeyefan55
I’ve been watching him the past few years as a buckeye fan, and he’s big. That’s about it. He loses focus and has tons of problems with speed rushers. I think he’s a RT only and he shouldn’t go higher than the second, although he probably will.
Also, here is an article from MTD debating this very subject and the writer brings up a very good point:
That being said, there is a reason he was a late first round prospect before last week. His final season at Ohio State was mired with inconsistency. Many believe the game tape is more important than the pre-draft festivities. This will be a perfect case to watch to see just how valid that is.
Again, Im not sure where I stand on Adams in the first. I would and have definitely supported taking him in the 2nd, but Im not sure about the 1st.
There is that
And the egregious mistake which got him nailed with a multi-game suspension.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
eh, I'll give him a pass for that
It was stupid but not something that throws up a major red flag like Michael Floyd or Cliff Harris
Major red flag?
Did Michael Floyd embezzle money from an old folks home, deal blow on the side, or foreclose on sub-prime mortgages?
Oh, he boozed too hard in college.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
I guess that comment is more an indictment of the measures franchise's will go to, however rediculous, to ensure sound investment.
Not an indictment of your “red flag” comment.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, Cedric Benson boozer a little in college
Problem is it didn’t end there. 3 arrests in 4 years raises questions about a guys decision making and maturity. I’m not gonna throw him under a bus or say he can’t and won’t change (I’ve done that in the past and was wrong for it) but when you get in trouble with the law MULTIPLE times that shows you probably are a little slow in learning your lesson. It’s not unfair to be questioned for that especially when your competing with guys who don’t have a history of bad behavior.
by Joeb'n777 on Feb 2, 2012 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It seemed, if you were to believe the reports, that Floyd changed his tune
Almost being kicked off the team may have made him wake up a little. Or maybe it didn’t, and that was just a show. But it seemed like he became more focused after the last incident.
by Digs D-League on Feb 2, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
That makes him look a lot better
I still think we need to grab an elite Wide Receiver before we do anything else. The best left tackle in the game couldn’t keep Cutty on his feet if he never has anyone open to throw the ball to! That being said, perhaps trading up with a few picks to get into the late first/early second with our second pick wouldn’t be such a bad idea. That way we can take Floyd/Sanu/other elite WR with one pick, and Adams with the other.
Disagree. Not only do I think that Floyd (presupposing that they are both there at #19) is the best available talent between the two (for those of you who do best available)...
Tice has said that unless there is “elite” (top 10) talent at LT in the draft, they are going to stick with Webb in his simplified, tackle-friendly offense.
From watching a moderate amount of OSU games, I don’t think Adams is better than Carimi was. Not really any reason to take him if he can’t play LT.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Adams has shown the ability ( Senior Bowl ) to play ....
….. LT at an elite level . Every player that lined up across from him got shut down . All that said if their both sittin there my pick is Floyd . We must get Jay Cutler his go up and get it guy .
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Mike Tyson
by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 2, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
So get Cutler his "Go Up and Get It" guy in FA
Then draft Adams to be his “Protect My Blindside” guy and pair him with Carimi to be his bookend guys for years to come.
Jay Cutler is our QB, and I for one am proud of that
by Erik Christopher Duerrwaechter on Feb 2, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Again, we are assuming that Adams is capable of protecting blindsides in the pros. Don't really know if anyone can confidently say, "yes" to that question.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Slow down. Senior bowl does not equal "elite level".
Carimi consistently played against better competition his senior year (go through the list of d-lineman that were drafted last year from the B1G), won the Outland Trophy, yet isn’t sufficient to play LT, apparently.
What makes this dude any better?
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Any kind of prediction beyond the top 3, maybe 5 picks
is just kind of dumb, and space-filler for sports websites.
I don't think so at all...
I mean, people make it their living because they do their homework, they analyze the picks, yeah, something at the top can screw stuff up (see: Jacksonville’s odd picks, and any time the Raiders are on the clock)…
There’s value in it because it’s a summary of a bunch of research, of BPA, team needs, big board analysis, FO Knowledge and such… Sure, there can be stunners here and there, reaches and drops, but, there’s value in creating such lists.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Feb 2, 2012 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
You're forgetting the most important "fun" factor of
“How might this happen if this gets tweaked?”
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by Steven Schweickert on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
Fair Enough,
I just don’t have much use for them. I just get really sick of the NFL draft hype, it gets worse and worse every year, and is still for the most part a giant crapshoot.
Only the Chicago Bears can provide pressers about "Change" and "Continuity" at the same time.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
Yes to bad
No media peoples will ask “Which is it?”…..
"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."
- NEW Bears GM Phil Emery on evaluating NFL talent
by CloudyFuture on Feb 2, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
lol, where have you been? That's a lot of what I've heard from the media.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
During the
actual PC? Cant recall that….But then I heard it on BnB and they were doing their shenanigans during it…..As for articles….Sorry but I cant read….
"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."
- NEW Bears GM Phil Emery on evaluating NFL talent
by CloudyFuture on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Lol Got ya.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Clayton on ESPN 1000
Thinks (hears) that all the WRs / offensive weapons will get franchised (bowe, finley, djax, etc)….To valuable to let hit the open market……vjackson might hit the market but norv turner and aj smith might want to franchise vjackson because their jobs are in jeopardy this coming season….
"In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluctuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data....."
- NEW Bears GM Phil Emery on evaluating NFL talent
That pretty much what I think will happen...
Bowe is a pipe dream. No way KC lets him walk. I can see Colston as the only likely guy to hit FA. We need to use 2 picks on WR unless we continue to bring in re-treads
by Ryan21 on Feb 2, 2012 12:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Definitely misread the last word in your post at first.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Thats why I added the -
it looked worse b4 that. lol
by Ryan21 on Feb 2, 2012 12:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Reggie Wayne
He can still contribute at a high level. He had over 900 rec. yds. this year with some of the worst QB play in the league. Add into that he is a high character, good work ethic guy who could potentially mentor a young draft pick to take over for him in a year or two and I think he’s the guy
by Joeb'n777 on Feb 2, 2012 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Garcon is also a free agent..Theres alot of guys out there to sign
I think the bears if they want can land 2 WRS…The bear need to sign cutler the players he needs he cant wait for development players to come into there own.So we need to sign atleast 1 wr and a OL from the free agent field.And i dont wanna hear about money issues cause they have more than enough money to sign players i heard they have 50 mil to spend im sure about 8 of it goes to forte so were left with about 42 mil.
I don't want Garcon.
I am biased though.
"With all due respect, and I mean with ALL due respect...that idea ain't worth a velvet paintin' of a whale and a dolphin gettin' it on."
by CurtisEnisFan on Feb 2, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Quote at the top
..I was about to say, that ad on the sides of this page is obnoxious..especially on a Bears fan page lol
This site is
a little less work-friendly because of it. At brief glance, I see a guy in underwear wearing an S&M mask. And that’s having seen an episode of the show. Damn visual context…
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