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2012 Chicago Bears Roster Turnover: Center

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As we move our series onto the big guys up front, we'll break the o-line posts into 3 parts. Care to take a guess on the three? First up is center, and since the Bears only had 1 player take snaps at center you'd think the focus would be squarely on Roberto Garza. But, since Chris Spencer was signed to play center, and since he's the only player listed solely as a center on the roster I'll throw him in this post as well. I'll get to the other guards next time out.

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Roberto Garza - Signed through 2013 - Garza was voted a team captain by his teammates and as a 11 year vet that can play all three interior positions, he has value to the team. Had there been an actual off season Garza may have been left at guard. But with the lockout holding things up, the Bears weren't allowed to have Chris Spencer involved until Garza had a rapport built up with his quarterback. Once a QB finds comfort between his centers legs it's best to leave that situation alone. (OK, I giggled typing that last sentence) The Bears will tell you Garza did a fine job and I'll tell you that Garza did an adequate job, but the PFF grading system paints a different story. With a new GM in place I don't think any veteran should feel safe. I could see a scenario playing out where the Bears let Garza leave if Spencer shows up good in camp.

PFF had Garza rated as the 2nd worst center in football. He had an inconsistent year, and the weekly PFF grades went as follows; Week 1 was a positive game followed by 3 negative games. Then 3 neutrally graded games followed by a negative, a neutral, then 2 negatives. He then recorded a positive, a negative, a positive, a neutral, then a week 17 negative. Half his games he was graded negatively, but in 5 of those 8 games he scored a -3.0 or worse.

Chris Spencer - Signed through 2012 - Spencer was forced into action at guard and he played pretty good early on, but as the year wore on his play seemed to level off. He looked good on the pulls and getting to the second level, but he did have some technique issues throughout the year. His 7 penalties led all Bears interior linemen.

Looking at the PFF grades they had him starting off real good with a +6.8 in weeks 1-4. However, his -12.4 overall should tell you how they graded him the rest of the way. They didn't have him giving up a single sack on the year, but his 28 QB pressures was the 3rd worst of all the interior linemen.

Reggie Stephens - Signed a reserve/future contract - If you know anything about Mr. Stephens please fill us in. All I know about him is the Bears list him at guard and Rotoworld lists him as a center. He'll be a camp body.

2012 OUTLOOK - As I said earlier Garza may be a cap casualty. The $1.75 million that's due him isn't huge money, but Spencer is being paid like a starter. In fact, Spencer will be the highest paid offensive lineman on the '12 roster as it stands now at $2.25 million plus a $500,000 roster bonus.

If the Bears decide to go the free agent route for a center again, they won't have to look very far for the top guy on the market. Green Bay's Scott Wells is an unrestricted free agent and will get top dollar from someone. Why not strengthen the Bears and weaken a rival with one move.

I think drafting an interior lineman to play center and guard at some point is smart football. Next time out, a look at the offensive guards for the Bears.

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The fact that Spencer is the Bears' highest paid O-lineman is telling

2.25 million plus a bonus is not that much money for the highest paid O-lineman on a team. I’m not saying any of the guys should be getting paid more, but the Bears should find someone who is good enough up front to command some kind of significant contract. I’m in the camp that thinks the line is OK, and the Bears don’t need to use a 1st round pick on a tackle (unless they don’t draft a receiver 1st round), but I hope that some of these guys develop into the type of guys you would want to pay.

by Digs D-League on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

But... But... But

Spencer disn’t give up any sacks therefore he is a great lineman. And how could they rate Garza so low? Don’t they know he was a Pro Bowl alternate this year?

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 11:01 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Reggie Stephens

Stephens was on the Bengals practice squad last year, and on the active roster the year before (though never suited up). The Bengals had him at center, but he also played guard for 2 years in college. Was 2 time all big 12 honorable mention at iowa state.

by n8thegreat on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You left off Edwin Williams

He was a C throughout college. He was drafted as a C. The Bears brought him in to play C. He may damn well be the best C on the roster.

by The Kaiser on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM CST reply actions  

+1

You bear me to it

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

You bear me to it

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No I didn't...

He’ll be in the guard post

When Mike Ditka calculates pi it's decimal representation ends.

by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 7, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Edwin.Williams was the best pass blocker for the Chicago Bears last year. He clearly out played Chris Williams and the arrow is pointing up. Chris Williams should challenge the Left Tackle position if he fails there he could stay at “swing tackle”(pay cut) he will be a free agent in 2013. Check this out, Chris Williams has 31" arms some of the shortest arms in football maybe he should try out at Center?

by mcrann1 on Feb 9, 2012 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if they plan on moving E. Williams back over to Center

Either way I think he has to be on the field. IMO (I thought I saw somewhere on PFF to back it up) he was the best O-Lineman on the team (excluding Carimi). I think a combination of C.Williams, E. Williams and the winner of a Louis vs. Spencer training camp battle could be serviceable.

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

We need to add talent because serviceable is gettin Cutty killed .....

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Depending on where they put Edwin I’d like to see the draft a guard or center. This draft is full of guards and if we want I’m sure Konz will be there at 19.

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Elite O-line for the Bears =

Anything less than 40 sacks on the season.

by jheun on Feb 8, 2012 6:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Here is the problem with E.W.

Chris Williams is bad to mediocre and they moved Spencer from Center to Guard to play him rather than put E.W. in. Either he isn’t as good as his play has suggested or Lovie just hates him, either way its doesn’t seem like he is playing. I think we need an interior lineman and a LT for this line as a minimum.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Chris Williams is much better than bad to mediocre my man .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

How?

He sucked at Lt, sucked at Rt, and has sucked at guard last year, and sucked at guard half of his games this year. He had a nice streak before he got injured, but it is a really small sample based on a career of bad. And he is always injured, so we have a player, who has never been dominant, and, at best, been average, who is made of glass. How do we rely on this guy?

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Did not suck at guard..

Hoping that Peppers does the belt dance over Rodgers crumpled on the turf

by tfrabotta on Feb 7, 2012 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Dude you may want to do some research on Chris Williams before you say he sucks . His wrist injury ....

….. was the same freak injury that one Mr. Urlacher had and this injury is not a chronic type issue . Kid played guard at a great level last year .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

The freak injury

would be an anomaly except that he is consistently injured. How do you define great? Are you saying he played at an all pro level on one of the worst lines in the league? I mean on the scale of all living creatures he is a great guard, but on the scale of NFL starting guards he is, at best, in the middle 1/3 of the league.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

How many times has he injured his wrist ??? And sorry Williams ....

…. was playing at a very high level for any team before the injury .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

He has missed

26 games or 41% because of injury. I am not just concerned with his wrist, but rather with a dominating trend of his career.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If it was the same nagging injuries than yes he may be considered .....

….. an injury concern .

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't as good as his play suggested!? Did I read that right?

What other way is there to determine how good he is? How well he lifts weight? How well he does in spring drill? No, it doesn’t mater how a guy practices if he can come out in the game and ball then he is a good player irreguardless.

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 12:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

How he practices

I like EW, i thought he should have started coming into this year, however, if he has this much trouble finding the field behind our bottom of the barrel cast of characters, then he probably isn’t going to start. Whether its because he looks like poop in practice, or the coaches don’t like him, i do not know, but i think it is unrealistic to say that we don’t need a guard because we can count on a player that is an option of last resort amongst the coaching staff.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

How he practices?

I like EW, i thought he should have started coming into this year, however, if he has this much trouble finding the field behind our bottom of the barrel cast of characters, then he probably isn’t going to start. Whether its because he looks like poop in practice, or the coaches don’t like him, i do not know, but i think it is unrealistic to say that we don’t need a guard because we can count on a player that is an option of last resort amongst the coaching staff.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

He didn't start the season

because he never got a chance to. Mike Tice wanted to solidify the starting OL as early as possible during the abbreviated spring training. Edwin Williams had to wait a week as he was a newly signed Free Agent and he literally missed his chance to compete.

by The Kaiser on Feb 7, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The Bears are trying to keep Chris William’s value up to be able to move him later. The problem here is that Chris Williams is poor in strength, his arms are so short that defensive linemen can extend their arms and move Williams easily. So He can’t anchor, he needs to move to a zone blocking system where he can be affective.

by mcrann1 on Feb 9, 2012 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry Mr. Pants, you are wrong on multiple levels...

Firstly, CW is not bad to mediocre. He played pretty well at LG. Secondly, they moved Spencer to RG to stand in for Louis who moved to RT when Carimi went down. E.W. played all pre season as CW’s back up at LG. When CW went down, they moved EW into the LG position.

Also, don’t discount that they signed Spencer for like $3M and so they had to play him.

Another interior lineman is way down on the priority list. Behind WR, DE, CB, S, LB, QB

by The Kaiser on Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM CST reply actions  

I still think that OL is our 2nd biggest need.

As in, I’d rather sign a big name there than just about anywhere else other than WR. All of those other positions can be filled out by reasonably inexpensive options and still perform adequately. But I don’t see a potential All-Pro OL on this team (aside from MEBBE Carimi). And I don’t see a potential All-Pro WR.

by Doshi on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't say that the OL is not a top need...

I said interior OL is not. We need another tackle, that’s for sure. Taking Mike Adams at #19 would not piss me off if the coaches believe he could start at LT in place of Webb day 1.

by The Kaiser on Feb 8, 2012 3:56 AM CST up reply actions  

CW

has failed as a RT, failed as a LT, and has had only a handful of decent games at LG. His injury history alone make me hesitant to rely on him as a starter going into next year.

And you made my point about EW, they would rather move Spencer from C to RG than move EW from LG to RG. I am high on EW, but I don’t think the coaching staff is.

I am not saying we need to break the bank and bring in Nicks, but a starter needs to be brought in. We have a lot of nice backups and no clear starters on our OL. I thought we needed 3 OL after last year and still think we need 2. I agree that WR is a need, although not as important as OL, but OL is clearly more important than LB, where we have 2 great players, and QB.

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

If the team wasn't high on him...

They wouldn’t have rewarded him with a nice little contract extension.

by Joeb'n777 on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Honestly, I think you must not follow the Bears very closely

If you did, you would know that the team is VERY high on E.W. They did not move Spencer from C to RG, they moved him from the bench to RG.

by The Kaiser on Feb 7, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

How are they very high on him?

What behaviors has the team exhibited to show that they are very high on him. Or do you have a skewed idea of very high that places him in the very high category behind CW, Garza, Spencer, and Lance Louis?

by MrPants on Feb 7, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Na thats fake ......

" Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. " ~
Mike Tyson

by MidWayMonster54 on Feb 7, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not going to do the work...

but if care to research it, you’ll find consistent and regular praise over EW over the last two years. Believe me, it’s there.

by The Kaiser on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 AM CST up reply actions  

In the Bear’s mind it is. In the 3rd round the Bears need to draft a another O-Lineman but it’s not in the cards. Myself I would like for the Bears to draft a LT – DE – WR- C- OLB -CB

My free agents or trade possibilities are; ILB Ryan De Meco- Houston, WR De Wayne Bowe, CB William Middleton – Jacksonville, and LB Tim Shaw- Tenneesse.

by mcrann1 on Feb 9, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

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