More on the Archuleta, Briggs Update

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 8:24 AM CDT in News Comment 23 comments

There might have been more to the this deal happening then just Archuleta's on field ability and getting rid of big contract numbers.

Redskins' upper management believed Archuleta was a primary source for an ESPN article that was highly critical of the team's defense.

It wouldn't matter if he was playing at a Pro Bowl level, but for 4th stringers, that type of think gets you shipped out.

According to this article says Archuleta is expected to be our starting strong safety playing next to Danieal Manning. That would suggest the the Bears are not going to put their eggs in Mike Brown's basket. The Bears are expected to approach Brown about a contract restructure. Brown's contract pays him 2.49 million each of the next two years and if he doesn't agree the Brown may be on his way out. However, if he does agree and comes off the bench the safety position becomes a strength for us, with two former starters on the bench.

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Lance Brigg's agent was on The Best Damn Sports Show and in it he outlined the options for Briggs, one did include him returning to the Bears. He said there has been interest from some other teams about acquiring Briggs. Those teams are believed to be the Washington Redskins (who are interested in everybody), the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49ers.

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The Hawks huh?

Briggs, Lofa and Peterson

I could roll with that

But I don't see it happening

Go Seahawks!!!

by Scruffy Lefty on Mar 21, 2007 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not a chance

especially since you don't have a first round pick and if you did it wouldn't be all that high.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about...

future picks? I could see a scenario where the Bears deal Briggs to the 'Hawks for a pick in this year's draft and next year's first round pick.

Has anyone even heard any rumors about what the Bears would be looking for if they dealt Briggs?

by shawndgoldman on Mar 21, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Could happen, but

the Seahawks are going to be a playoff team for a number of years, so they will always have a later draft pick.

Hopefully, they can find a team with a better one if that is the plan.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Briggs, Lofa and Peterson

that would be a monopoly and should be regulated by this country's anti-trust laws.

by Chad on Mar 21, 2007 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Tom Friend

ESPN article in question (that Archuleta might've allegedly been the source on) was quite damning and pissed high hell out of many people in the organization.

Hogs Haven

by Skin Patrol on Mar 21, 2007 9:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The article just

said he questioned the Redskins defense. That doesn't sound too bad on its own.

What exactly was in it that got everybody riled up?

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Link

to the Tom Friend article here (subscription required). In it an Anonymous Redskins player basically revealed some Coaching rifts -- between Steven Jackson and Gregg Williams and the players and the coaching staff -- that probably shouldn't have been aired. Many teammates were critical of the anonymous source though it was never revealed who that was, exactly.

The Coaches were obviously pissed. Also our defense was in shambles at the time which didn't help.

Hogs Haven

by Skin Patrol on Mar 21, 2007 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sun-Times article on the trade

Right here.

Here's an interesting "rumor":

The Bears are also believed to be exploring the possibility of moving free safety Danieal Manning to cornerback, which could give them some depth with Charles Tillman and Nathan Vasher set to be unrestricted free agents next March. It's expected the Bears will target Tillman for a long-term extension, and that's a move that will come at a high cost.

Emphasis mine. "Expected"??? Has anyone heard this? Not reading too much into it. Curious as to what others think of this move/moves.

by tyger1147 on Mar 21, 2007 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have heard nothing

on if and who the Bears plan to sign between Vashar and Tillman.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PLEASE

sign Vasher and not Tillman.

And why do they need to move Manning to cornerback? Isn't this why they signed Ricky Manning Jr? To be a replacement for Tillman (hopefully) when they let him walk?

We need to bring in a freaking Free Safety to help in coverage. We have Manning, the only true free safety...and then Harris, Brown and Arch; who are all true strong safeties and cannot do a whole lot in coverage.

by lopey986 on Mar 21, 2007 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Briggs' Delusion Tour

Because no team will compensate the Bears with the two first round picks necessary, you may as well forget any sort of trade as one of his options.

That leaves just two.

Mr Briggs, you can either shut up and play next year and hope the Bears are sufficiently close to the cap to disallow them to "franchise" you again, allowing you to then become a free agent.

Or.

You can sit on you sofa for zero dollars, drastically reducing the amount any team will pay you as a free agent (if you in deed reach free agency). Hell, if the Bears really wanted to screw you, they just flop the tag on you again in '08.

Jerry Angelo and Ted Phillips are not going to be strong-armed by a player, especially a player who plays an eminently replaceable position. Lance Briggs is trying to play poker, but everyone in the game knows he has a bust hand.

Good luck on your Delusion Tour, idiot!

by Santos Sorrow on Mar 21, 2007 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The current word is they

would be asking for a 1st and 3rd.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

throw in a 4th and i'd do that in a heartbeat

and 1st and 3rd is pretty good, too...depends on where the 1st round pick is. briggs is great, but OLBers are somewhat dispensable.

by guy incognito on Mar 21, 2007 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they

have a right to 2 first round picks, but can and would accept a lesser package.

a trade is still a possibility, albeit not that likely this late in the game.

the redskins are always willing to deal picks, and always interested in the big-name guy. i don't want to get too excited, but the redskins do have the 6th pick, and with that and the picks we have, we would certainly have the ammo to get calvin johnson, the most sure thing of the last few drafts. but that's a pipe dream.

by tomas21 on Mar 23, 2007 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How's LaVarr Arrington feeling?

didn't the Giants release him and if we do end up moving Briggs (which I doubt), anyone think he might be a good guy to bring in?

I'm just gauging interest, I really don't know enough about him other than he seemed like a monster who had some problems sticking with a scheme.

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by thecubreporter on Mar 21, 2007 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The knock on Arrington is

he can't play in a system. He needs to allowed to roam around and make plays. I am not sure how that would fit into our system.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll roll the dice.

That makes him our weakside linebacker and then he can play a little more freely.

by Chad on Mar 21, 2007 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Despite what they say

I will take Arrington, a 1st and a 3rd.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Urlacher and Arrington

is a whole lot of freaky ability at LB.

by Adam T on Mar 21, 2007 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Corrected

"The knock on Arrington is he can't play"

Seriously he has stunk for several years now...

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by JasonB on Mar 21, 2007 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sure...

We'll take the opinion of an Eagles fan on a player that played for the Redskins then the Giants. No bias there.

by Chad on Mar 21, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should

If he was tearing us up for the past few years I'd be happy to get him out of the division... fact is he has been awful. Go talk to some Skins or Giants fans if you want. They'll tell you the same.

I've been watching Arrington decline every year for several years now. I would think the fact that the Giants cut him and the Skins let him walk would prove that...

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by JasonB on Mar 21, 2007 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs