Matt Ryan and Brian Brohm Score High On Wonderlic Exams

by Adam T on Mar 23, 2008 8:32 AM CDT in News Comment 11 comments

Probably the one position where the results of the Wonderlic Exam actually might make a difference is with QBs. The top 4 QBs all scored well.

Brian Brohm and Matt Ryan both reportedly scored a 32 out of 50. Joe Flacco scored a 27 out of 50 and Chad Henne received a 22 out of 50.

The offensive line men did well with the exception of Ryan Clady.
Ryan Clady (13)
Jeff Otah (28)
Chris Williams (32)
Sam Baker (27)
Jake Long (26)
Gosder Cherilus (25)

Again these are not official numbers. Clady is a potential Bears target, but I don't put a whole lot in the scores for any linemen.

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why?

Clady is a potential Bears target, but I don't put a whole lot in the scores for any linemen.

Why?

You do know that offensive linemen are often some of the smartest guys in the field, right?

I would argue that offensive line and QB are the two most important positions to have high intelligence levels.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Mar 23, 2008 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

still waiting...

WCG?

Are you going to explain why you don't believe that wonderlic scores matter for linemen?

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Mar 25, 2008 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

lost track of the thread.

I didn't say they were not important, I just don't need a guy who scores a 27.

Offensive linemen do a lot of reacting. Yes, it would be nice if you could tell that based on a certain defensive line up that they were going to blitz, but packages are hid so well these days most linemen just end up having to react. They either have the skills to react or they don't.

90% of the time you see the guy you need to block right in front of you. Then it is a combo of getting your hands on him first or reacting to however he comes at you.

That said I do understand the need, hence the Kruetz situation when Orton first played. He was pretty much calling all the setups and whatnot, but I don't know that having a high Wonderlic is a huge deal up and down the line.

by Adam T on Mar 25, 2008 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so basically...

... you think that linemen don't need to be smart.

If you really think they just act on instinct, I am not really sure what to say. Offensive line play, especially at the pro-level, is a very complex system that takes a high level of comprehension and understanding.

It isn't just a "block the guy in front of you."

Again, I would argue that offensive linemen need to be intelligent more than anyone other than the QB.

visit the mindful mission.

by big_lowitzki on Mar 25, 2008 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No I did not say that

I don't know why people insist on an all or nothing outlook. I am just saying I am not too worried overall if a linemen scores low on his Wonderlic. That is it.

by Adam T on Mar 25, 2008 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'd be more curious

what his school results were.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Mar 25, 2008 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...

I read that offensive lineman usually have the second highest average score to QBs, so if there was a lineman, like Clady, who scored low that might be concerning to the team.

by GallopingGhost on Mar 23, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah vince young blew his

and he is a total wasted pick.

"Kyle Orton and Jack Daniel's could be the greatest songwriting duo since Rodgers and Hammerstein." - DJ Gallo

by mike b on Mar 23, 2008 2:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Williams Lookin' Good

Chris Williams did really well on the test, scoring a 32 out of 50 which helps his chances of being drafted over Ryan Clady. Clady scored VERY low, only 13 out of 50, which is awful. Honestly, this might change who I would take if both of the two offensive tackles fell to me. I don't see the Patriots or the Colts have any dumb offensive lineman and they are some of the top teams in pass blocking. If I were the Bears, I would start to consider Williams over Clady...

by whitebearsox23 on Mar 23, 2008 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Definatly

We should definatly trade down and get this guy. his natural position is is on the left side which is a plus.

by SuperBowlXX on Mar 24, 2008 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From Wikipedia

Average scores for ordinary people
While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, Wonderlic, Inc. claims a score of at least 10 points suggests a person is literate. Furthermore, when the test was given to miscellaneous people of various professions, it was observed that the average participant scored a 24. Examples of scores from everyday professions included:
* Chemist - 31
* Programmer - 29
* Journalist - 26
* Sales - 24
* Bank teller - 22
* Clerical worker - 21
* Security guard - 17
* Warehouse - 15

So Clady is just above literate and just below working in a warehouse (not that there's anything wrong with that), and around half the intelligence of an average participant.

by Doctor Chicago on Mar 24, 2008 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs