This Fanpost was written by a Windy City Gridiron member, and does not necessarily reflect the ideas or opinions of its staff or community.
The other day, someone asked, "Who has Nagy worked with?", meaning "What QBs has he developed?". I think someone replied "Smith", which is true, but Nagy worked with other QBs before KC and worked with different guys as backups. So it had to be more than just Smith. I also wondered the same question about Lazor, Defilippo and Ragone and where they may overlap besides Foles.
So, I did a little research. I used wikipedia to tell me where each had been in the NFL and then to tell me the QB on the roster each year. Since it is Wikipedia, take it with a grain of salt. Any mispellings are my fault. I also only listed 3 guys, occasionally there were 4. And I only researched positions in the NFL.
Without further ado, here are the findings. And, there was more overlap than just Foles. Where one or more coaches had experience with a player, I put the name in bold.
Nagy - 14 different players since 2008
|2008||Intern||Eagles||Donovan McNabb||AJ Feeley||Kevin Kolb|
|2009||Intern||Eagles||Donovan McNabb||Michael Vick||Kevin Kolb|
|2010||Asst||Eagles||Michael Vick||Kevin Kolb||Mike Kafka|
|2011||QAQC||Eagles||Michael Vick||Vince Young||Mike Kafka|
|2012||QAQC||Eagles||Michael Vick||Trent Edwards|
|2013||QB||Chiefs||Alex Smith||Chase Daniel||Tyler Bray|
|2014||QB||Chiefs||Alex Smith||Chase Daniel||Aaron Murray|
|2015||QB||Chiefs||Alex Smith||Chase Daniel||Aaron Murray|
|2016||OC||Chiefs||Alex Smith||Nick Foles||Tyler Bray|
|2017||OC||Chiefs||Alex Smith||Patrick Mahomes||Tyler Bray|
|2018||HC||Bears||Mitch Trubisky||Chase Daniel||Tyler Bray|
|2019||HC||Bears||Mitch Trubisky||Chase Daniel||Tyler Bray|
Nagy is kind of unique with his experience. Not in volume, but continuity. As you will see by the other guys below, coaches often don't work with players for even 3 years and Nagy worked with Smith for 5. 5 is the most continuity any of these coaches have experienced. Plus it wasn't just Smith. Daniel and Bray also have each spent 5 years working with Nagy as a QB coach, OC or HC.
Lazor - 30 different players since 2003
|2003||QAQC||Falcons||Doug Johnson||Kirt Kitner|
|2004||Asst||Redskins||Mark Burnell||Patrick Ramsey|
|2005||Asst||Redskins||Mark Burnell||Jason Campbell||Patrick Ramsey|
|2006||QB||Redskins||Mark Burnell||Jason Campbell||Todd Collins|
|2007||QB||Redskins||Mark Burnell||Jason Campbell||Todd Collins|
|2008||QB||Seahawks||Matt Hasselbeck||Charlie Frye||Seneca Wallace|
|2009||QB||Seahawks||Matt Hasselbeck||Mike Teel||Seneca Wallace|
|2013||QB||Eagles||Michael Vick||Nick Foles||Matt Barkley|
|2014||OC||Dolphins||Ryan Tannehill||Matt Moore|
|2015||OC||Dolphins||Ryan Tannehill||Matt Moore||Logan Thomas|
|2016||QB||Bengals||Andy Dalton||AJ McCarron||Jeff Driskel|
|2017||OC||Bengals||Andy Dalton||AJ McCarron|
|2018||OC||Bengals||Andy Dalton||Jeff Driskel||Tom Savage|
Lazor has the most player experience. He also has some continuity, spending 3 or 4 years with a couple of guys.
DeFilippo - 20 different players since 2005
|2005||QAQC||Giants||Eli Manning||Tim Hasselbeck||Jared Lorenzen|
|2006||QAQC||Giants||Eli Manning||Tim Hasselbeck||Jared Lorenzen|
|2007||QB||Raiders||Aaron Brooks||Andrew Walter||Margues Tuiasosopo|
|2008||QB||Raiders||Josh McCown||JaMarcus Russell||Andrew Walter|
|2009||Asst QB||Jets||Bret Favre||Kellen Clemens||Brett Ratliff|
|2010||QB (NCAA)||San Jose State|
|2011||OC (NCAA)||San Jose State|
|2012||QB||Raiders||Matt Lienart||Carson Palmer||Terrelle Pryor|
|2013||QB||Raiders||Matt McGloin||Terrelle Pryor||Matt Flynn|
|2014||QB||Raiders||Derek Carr||Matt Schaub||Matt McGloin|
|2015||OC||Browns||Johnny Manziel||Austin Davis||Pat Devlin|
|2016||QB||Eagles||Carson Wentz||Chase Daniel|
|2017||QB||Eagles||Carson Wentz||Nick Foles||Nate Sudfeld|
|2018||OC||Vikings||Kirk Cousins||Trevor Siemian||Kyle Sloter|
|2019||OC||Jaguars||Nick Foles||Gardner Minshew||Joshua Dobbs|
Defilippo has the 2nd most experience with players. But, interestingly, John has never worked with a QB for more than 2 years. In large part because he's changed teams fairly frequently. 2020 with Foles will be the first time he's ever coached a QB for a 3rd year in the NFL.
Ragone - 16 different players since 2011
|2011||WR||Titans||Matt Hasselbeck||Jake Locker||Rusty Smith|
|2012||WR||Titans||Matt Hasselbeck||Jake Locker||Rusty Smith|
|2013||QB||Titans||Ryan Fitzpatrick||Rusty Smith||Tyler Wilson|
|2015||QAQC||Redskins||Kirk Cousins||RGIII||Colt McCoy|
|2016||QB||Bears||Jay Culter||Brian Hoyer||Matt Barkley|
|2017||QB||Bears||Mitch Trubisky||Mike Glennon||Mark Sanchez|
|2018||QB||Bears||Mitch Trubisky||Chase Daniel||Tyler Bray|
|2019||QB||Bears||Mitch Trubisky||Chase Daniel||Tyler Bray|
Dave took a year off in 2004. I debated not including Ragone's 2 years as a WR coach, but I figured like the other guys in QA or intern slots he was at least exposed to QB development and the Titans promoted from WR to QB after Loggins became OC.
The total of experience is somewhat impressive.
Years at each position in the NFL
Prep includes QAQC, Intern, Assistant, etc... Sometimes guys were listed as OC/QB, but I just called it OC. QB+ is QB, OC or HC, so although it is almost 5 decades combined they also have more than 3 decades where one of them had control over QB development.
Lazor and Defilippo have about the same volume of experience because Bill spent more time in the NCAA. Nagy spent the most time in Prep positions, but then obviously quickly rose to HC.
And, what is the total list of players? There are 70.
Number of years by player and coach.
It is 70 unique players and, to me, none of them very impressive, but some pretty good and some names surprised me. It guess it isn't a surprise that the list isn't full of all-pros. Typically all-pros have OC that are QB coaches and those guys don't leave except to become HC. And, in very typical NFL fashion all of these coaches have changed teams fairly often.
Perhaps the most impressive thing about this list is that the Bear 2020 QB development team has now witnessed 132 player-years of QB development in the NFL (it is actually a little more than that because I only counted up to 3 QB in each season).
I don't know if this is actually a lot for an NFL team (I'm not going to do the research for anyone else) but it sounds like a lot. I mean, "6 score and a dozen years", or "One and a third centuries", definitely both sound impressive to me.
Hopefully 2020 will reflect quality instead of just quantity.
What are your thoughts? Anything jump out at you in the information?