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Bear Coaching experience by Quarterback

Eric Hartline-USA TODAY Sports

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The other day, someone asked, "Who has Nagy worked with?", meaning "What QBs has he developed?". I think someone replied "Smith", which is true, but Nagy worked with other QBs before KC and worked with different guys as backups. So it had to be more than just Smith. I also wondered the same question about Lazor, Defilippo and Ragone and where they may overlap besides Foles.

So, I did a little research. I used wikipedia to tell me where each had been in the NFL and then to tell me the QB on the roster each year. Since it is Wikipedia, take it with a grain of salt. Any mispellings are my fault. I also only listed 3 guys, occasionally there were 4. And I only researched positions in the NFL.

Without further ado, here are the findings. And, there was more overlap than just Foles. Where one or more coaches had experience with a player, I put the name in bold.

Nagy - 14 different players since 2008

Year Position Team Name Name Name
2008 Intern Eagles Donovan McNabb AJ Feeley Kevin Kolb
2009 Intern Eagles Donovan McNabb Michael Vick Kevin Kolb
2010 Asst Eagles Michael Vick Kevin Kolb Mike Kafka
2011 QAQC Eagles Michael Vick Vince Young Mike Kafka
2012 QAQC Eagles Michael Vick Trent Edwards
2013 QB Chiefs Alex Smith Chase Daniel Tyler Bray
2014 QB Chiefs Alex Smith Chase Daniel Aaron Murray
2015 QB Chiefs Alex Smith Chase Daniel Aaron Murray
2016 OC Chiefs Alex Smith Nick Foles Tyler Bray
2017 OC Chiefs Alex Smith Patrick Mahomes Tyler Bray
2018 HC Bears Mitch Trubisky Chase Daniel Tyler Bray
2019 HC Bears Mitch Trubisky Chase Daniel Tyler Bray

Nagy is kind of unique with his experience. Not in volume, but continuity. As you will see by the other guys below, coaches often don't work with players for even 3 years and Nagy worked with Smith for 5. 5 is the most continuity any of these coaches have experienced. Plus it wasn't just Smith. Daniel and Bray also have each spent 5 years working with Nagy as a QB coach, OC or HC.

Lazor - 30 different players since 2003

Year Position Team Name Name Name
2003 QAQC Falcons Doug Johnson Kirt Kitner
2004 Asst Redskins Mark Burnell Patrick Ramsey
2005 Asst Redskins Mark Burnell Jason Campbell Patrick Ramsey
2006 QB Redskins Mark Burnell Jason Campbell Todd Collins
2007 QB Redskins Mark Burnell Jason Campbell Todd Collins
2008 QB Seahawks Matt Hasselbeck Charlie Frye Seneca Wallace
2009 QB Seahawks Matt Hasselbeck Mike Teel Seneca Wallace
2010 OC (NCAA) Virginia
2011 OC (NCAA) Virginia
2012 OC (NCAA) Virginia
2013 QB Eagles Michael Vick Nick Foles Matt Barkley
2014 OC Dolphins Ryan Tannehill Matt Moore
2015 OC Dolphins Ryan Tannehill Matt Moore Logan Thomas
2016 QB Bengals Andy Dalton AJ McCarron Jeff Driskel
2017 OC Bengals Andy Dalton AJ McCarron
2018 OC Bengals Andy Dalton Jeff Driskel Tom Savage
2019 NCAA Penn State

Lazor has the most player experience. He also has some continuity, spending 3 or 4 years with a couple of guys.

DeFilippo - 20 different players since 2005

Year Position Team Name Name Name
2005 QAQC Giants Eli Manning Tim Hasselbeck Jared Lorenzen
2006 QAQC Giants Eli Manning Tim Hasselbeck Jared Lorenzen
2007 QB Raiders Aaron Brooks Andrew Walter Margues Tuiasosopo
2008 QB Raiders Josh McCown JaMarcus Russell Andrew Walter
2009 Asst QB Jets Bret Favre Kellen Clemens Brett Ratliff
2010 QB (NCAA) San Jose State
2011 OC (NCAA) San Jose State
2012 QB Raiders Matt Lienart Carson Palmer Terrelle Pryor
2013 QB Raiders Matt McGloin Terrelle Pryor Matt Flynn
2014 QB Raiders Derek Carr Matt Schaub Matt McGloin
2015 OC Browns Johnny Manziel Austin Davis Pat Devlin
2016 QB Eagles Carson Wentz Chase Daniel
2017 QB Eagles Carson Wentz Nick Foles Nate Sudfeld
2018 OC Vikings Kirk Cousins Trevor Siemian Kyle Sloter
2019 OC Jaguars Nick Foles Gardner Minshew Joshua Dobbs

Defilippo has the 2nd most experience with players. But, interestingly, John has never worked with a QB for more than 2 years. In large part because he's changed teams fairly frequently. 2020 with Foles will be the first time he's ever coached a QB for a 3rd year in the NFL.

Ragone - 16 different players since 2011

Year Position Team Name Name Name
2011 WR Titans Matt Hasselbeck Jake Locker Rusty Smith
2012 WR Titans Matt Hasselbeck Jake Locker Rusty Smith
2013 QB Titans Ryan Fitzpatrick Rusty Smith Tyler Wilson
2014
2015 QAQC Redskins Kirk Cousins RGIII Colt McCoy
2016 QB Bears Jay Culter Brian Hoyer Matt Barkley
2017 QB Bears Mitch Trubisky Mike Glennon Mark Sanchez
2018 QB Bears Mitch Trubisky Chase Daniel Tyler Bray
2019 QB Bears Mitch Trubisky Chase Daniel Tyler Bray

Dave took a year off in 2004. I debated not including Ragone's 2 years as a WR coach, but I figured like the other guys in QA or intern slots he was at least exposed to QB development and the Titans promoted from WR to QB after Loggins became OC.

The total of experience is somewhat impressive.

Years at each position in the NFL

Position Nagy Lazor Defilippo Ragone Total
NFL 12 13 13 8 46
Prep 5 3 3 3 14
QB 3 6 7 5 21
OC 2 4 3 0 9
HC 2 0 0 0 2
NCAA 0 4 2 0 6
QB+ 7 10 10 5 32

Prep includes QAQC, Intern, Assistant, etc... Sometimes guys were listed as OC/QB, but I just called it OC. QB+ is QB, OC or HC, so although it is almost 5 decades combined they also have more than 3 decades where one of them had control over QB development.

Lazor and Defilippo have about the same volume of experience because Bill spent more time in the NCAA. Nagy spent the most time in Prep positions, but then obviously quickly rose to HC.

And, what is the total list of players? There are 70.

Number of years by player and coach.

Player Nagy Lazor Defilippo Ragone Total
Chase Daniel 5
1 2 8
Tyler Bray 5

2 7
Mitch Trubisky 2

3 5
Michael Vick 4 1

5
Alex Smith 5


5
Nick Foles 1 1 2
4
Mark Burnell
4

4
Matt Hasselbeck
2
2 4
Kevin Kolb 3


3
Andy Dalton
3

3
Jason Campbell
3

3
Rusty Smith


3 3
Donovan McNabb 2


2
Mike Kafka 2


2
Aaron Murray 2


2
Ryan Tannehill
2

2
Patrick Ramsey
2

2
Matt Moore
2

2
AJ McCarron
2

2
Jeff Driskel
2

2
Todd Collins
2

2
Seneca Wallace
2

2
Matt Barkley
1
1 2
Eli Manning

2
2
Matt McGloin

2
2
Carson Wentz

2
2
Kirk Cousins

1 1 2
Tim Hasselbeck

2
2
Andrew Walter

2
2
Terrelle Pryor

2
2
Jared Lorenzen

2
2
Jake Locker


2 2
AJ Feeley 1


1
Vince Young 1


1
Trent Edwards 1


1
Patrick Mahomes 1


1
Doug Johnson
1

1
Kirt Kitner
1

1
Charlie Frye
1

1
Mike Teel
1

1
Logan Thomas
1

1
Tom Savage
1

1
Aaron Brooks

1
1
Josh McCown

1
1
Bret Favre

1
1
Matt Lienart

1
1
Derek Carr

1
1
Johnny Manziel

1
1
JaMarcus Russell

1
1
Kellen Clemens

1
1
Carson Palmer

1
1
Matt Schaub

1
1
Austin Davis

1
1
Trevor Siemian

1
1
Gardner Minshew

1
1
Margues Tuiasosopo

1
1
Brett Ratliff

1
1
Matt Flynn

1
1
Pat Devlin

1
1
Nate Sudfeld

1
1
Kyle Sloter

1
1
Joshua Dobbs

1
1
Ryan Fitzpatrick


1 1
Jay Culter


1 1
RGIII


1 1
Brian Hoyer


1 1
Mike Glennon


1 1
Tyler Wilson


1 1
Colt McCoy


1 1
Mark Sanchez


1 1
Unique 14 20 30 16 70
TOTAL 35 35 38 24 132

It is 70 unique players and, to me, none of them very impressive, but some pretty good and some names surprised me. It guess it isn't a surprise that the list isn't full of all-pros. Typically all-pros have OC that are QB coaches and those guys don't leave except to become HC. And, in very typical NFL fashion all of these coaches have changed teams fairly often.

Perhaps the most impressive thing about this list is that the Bear 2020 QB development team has now witnessed 132 player-years of QB development in the NFL (it is actually a little more than that because I only counted up to 3 QB in each season).

I don't know if this is actually a lot for an NFL team (I'm not going to do the research for anyone else) but it sounds like a lot. I mean, "6 score and a dozen years", or "One and a third centuries", definitely both sound impressive to me.

Hopefully 2020 will reflect quality instead of just quantity.

What are your thoughts? Anything jump out at you in the information?

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